Democrats are truly living in their own world.

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Democrats want to keep the bush tax cuts for the 98% and the Republicans don’t want the rates going up for anyone including the 2%. So if the Democrats don’t want rates going up for the 98% and the Republicans don’t want the rates to go up for the 2% wouldn’t the compromise be the rates not going up for anyone. But democrats idea of compromise is do what I want. Republicans should do is pass what Obama wants and that is the extension of the Bush tax cuts just for the 98% and on the same bill add the end of the base line budgeting and automatic spending increases. That is all we would need to start forcing the senate to start passing a budget and stop with the cuts lies that are really just a lower increase in spending and not a real cut at all.
 
Hey, this Democrat has stated repeatedly that I would like to see them go back to the Clinton rate, period. Then add 5% on anything above a million dollars. Plus, make those rates on all income. And the SS tax, the 6.2% that I pay also goes right up the scale, on all income.

There, happy now:badgrin:
 
Democrats want to keep the bush tax cuts for the 98% and the Republicans don’t want the rates going up for anyone including the 2%. So if the Democrats don’t want rates going up for the 98% and the Republicans don’t want the rates to go up for the 2% wouldn’t the compromise be the rates not going up for anyone. But democrats idea of compromise is do what I want. Republicans should do is pass what Obama wants and that is the extension of the Bush tax cuts just for the 98% and on the same bill add the end of the base line budgeting and automatic spending increases. That is all we would need to start forcing the senate to start passing a budget and stop with the cuts lies that are really just a lower increase in spending and not a real cut at all.

What does it matter if The Senate passes a budget? Fiscal measures are initiated by the House and the Republican majority should be able to block anything they don't like. Quit trying to distract from the real issues and tell your representitives to sit down, bargain in good faith and get a deal done. If it isn't done, who's going to get the blame? In the real world, it should be the majority in the body that initiates the measures. That isn't the Senate and it isn't the Democrats.
 
Democrats want to keep the bush tax cuts for the 98% and the Republicans don’t want the rates going up for anyone including the 2%. So if the Democrats don’t want rates going up for the 98% and the Republicans don’t want the rates to go up for the 2% wouldn’t the compromise be the rates not going up for anyone. But democrats idea of compromise is do what I want. Republicans should do is pass what Obama wants and that is the extension of the Bush tax cuts just for the 98% and on the same bill add the end of the base line budgeting and automatic spending increases. That is all we would need to start forcing the senate to start passing a budget and stop with the cuts lies that are really just a lower increase in spending and not a real cut at all.

What does it matter if The Senate passes a budget? Fiscal measures are initiated by the House and the Republican majority should be able to block anything they don't like. Quit trying to distract from the real issues and tell your representitives to sit down, bargain in good faith and get a deal done. If it isn't done, who's going to get the blame? In the real world, it should be the majority in the body that initiates the measures. That isn't the Senate and it isn't the Democrats.

Those are real issues. I mean they scream that is a 1 trillion dollar cut when in fact it is not a cut at all but rather smaller increases in the future of automatic increases. The reason the Senate has not had to pass a budget the last 4 years is because spending is automatically increased every year so why pass a budget when passing said budget would force you to most likely spend less than if you don’t pass a budget?
 
Democrats are truly living in their own world.

Yes but they are nice people and are willing to let you live in their world with them.
 
gee a really good fiscal idea.

No one pays for the debt.

stuck on stupid the right is
 
No matter what happens to taxes short term will neither fix our current $16 trillion in debt nor obviously help the other $60-80 combined trillions in unfunded liabilities of the government. The only way to even begin to hack away at our mountain of debt is to dramatically cut spending and reform entitlements. And the Dimocrats are never going to address those two issues, so there's nothing but problems in the near future, problems that will result in higher taxes for everyone. So keep Barry's tax promises in mind down the road because he's going to have to break them sooner or later as there is no other option for increasing revenues.

Elections truly do have consequences.
 
gee a really good fiscal idea.

No one pays for the debt.

stuck on stupid the right is

It is always more money needed on the left.

The tax rate is 5%. Ok raise it to 10% and we will cut spending.
Oh we need to raise taxes now to 15% do it and we will cut spending
Tax rate needs to be 20% now and we will cut spending
Tax rate now need to be 25% don't worry we will cut spending
Taxes need to go up to 30% and we will cut spending
You now taxes need to go up to 35% and we will cut spending
You are not paying your fair share and we need you to pay more. Don't worry we will cut spending. And that is just the federal level.
 
No matter what happens to taxes short term will neither fix our current $16 trillion in debt nor obviously help the other $60-80 combined trillions in unfunded liabilities of the government. The only way to even begin to hack away at our mountain of debt is to dramatically cut spending and reform entitlements. And the Dimocrats are never going to address those two issues, so there's nothing but problems in the near future, problems that will result in higher taxes for everyone. So keep Barry's tax promises in mind down the road because he's going to have to break them sooner or later as there is no other option for increasing revenues.

Elections truly do have consequences.

The other option is to just not raise the debt ceiling. That will force cuts.
 

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