Democrats Are Against It!

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…Democrats/Liberals/Progressives…all of 'em!



1.No….not racism and slavery….they originated and supported it, until the Republicans pried their slaves away from them.
Not Russia…..they supported Russia, the Soviet Union, Joseph Stalin and the communists from FDR on.
But….Patriotism, America, the flag, the police, the military, marriage, family, religion, the unborn, …







2. Religion plus family equals marriage. I say it is a central benefit for society….so why

Are Liberals Against Marriage?

3. The continued plunge in the American birthrate, amid prosperity and low unemployment, has finally made fertility a topic that’s O.K. to worry about….there is one key fact about the recent decline in the American fertility rate that inevitably revives, rather than transcends, a long-running right-left argument.

4. … in the aggregate Republicans marry more and divorce less than Democrats, ideological conservatives are much more likely to be married than ideological liberals, and conservatives are more than twice as likely to describe marriage as something “needed” for “strong families.”

5. … look at trends within elite progressivism, I don’t think this gap is likely to soon close. And one does not have to regard liberals as the enemies of marriage, in some crude Leninist sense, to see that this gap matters for how our ideological factions regard the institution’s importance, its future, its place in public policy, its continued diminishment or possible revival.



6. … the question of why marriage has declined so precipitously in the first place still looms over the fertility discussion. And with it comes a longstanding liberal-versus-conservative disagreement about how much to emphasize economic trends versus cultural transformations — or, more tersely, neoliberalism versus cultural liberalism — to explaining the waning of wedlock.

7. “Barr’s recent speech attacking secular liberals is a somewhat different case: Edsall is right that it represents a more simplistic and partisan take, a view from 1980 that blames social liberalism for family breakdown without much nuance and doesn’t take enough account of social, economic and religious trends since. And Barr speaks for plenty of Republicans, which is why Rubio and Hawley have taken a lot of fire for their attempt at a new pro-family synthesis, in previews of post-Trump debates to come.

…the right’s why-marriage-declined story is presently contested, complicated, interesting and possibly getting closer to the necessarily complex truth.
Are liberals against marriage? | American Enterprise Institute - AEI

Next….
 
The Democrat Party is a disaffected freak show, supported by know-nothing Millennials.
 
Donald Trump.

married 3 x & has 5 children from his 3 baby mamas. cheated on melania by raw dogging it with a porn star, putting both her & his yet to be born son at risk for all kindsa nasty cooties.

brought both his 1st trophy wife, & his CONcubine/soon to be the 2nd trophy wife on the same aspen ski vacation & sat by watching the fireworks fly when they crossed paths on the same slope - making a mockery & spectacle of the word 'marriage'.
ahhhhhhhhhh..........'CONservatives' - the party of family values.:lmao:
 
Donald Trump.

married 3 x & has 5 children from his 3 baby mamas. cheated on melania by raw dogging it with a porn star, putting both her & his yet to be born son at risk for all kindsa nasty cooties.

brought both his 1st trophy wife, & his CONcubine/soon to be the 2nd trophy wife on the same aspen ski vacation & sat by watching the fireworks fly when they crossed paths on the same slope - making a mockery & spectacle of the word 'marriage'.
ahhhhhhhhhh..........'CONservatives' - the party of family values.:lmao:



And this has what to do with the OP that enticed you to slither in?
 
To be a Progressive in good standing, one must oppose all of the values, attitudes and beliefs that made Western Civilization the shining ‘city on the hill.’

Like marriage and family.



8. “…liberals tend to have a more nuanced view of why marriage faltered than the right — one that emphasizes the importance of tectonic economic shifts but also acknowledges that “the sexual revolution and the personal autonomy movement had significant costs as well as notable gains.”



9. I would divide the modern progressive approach to marriage into three distinct phases.

In the first phase, which covers the 1960s through the 1980s, there was a clear liberal-led attack on the institutional form of marriage as it existed then, on the legal and cultural structure that privileged heterosexual wedlock, pushed couples toward its rules and rituals, and then constrained them from divorce.This assault was undertaken in a spirit of social optimism, in the name of personal empowerment and (eventually) female equality, and infused with a confidence that the old legal and moral structures were simply oppressive, that in an enlightened society most people wouldn’t need normative models of partnering and child rearing to flourish and succeed.”
Opinion | Are Liberals Against Marriage? | best24News


Pretty effective in encouraging out of wedlock birth, huh?
 
Donald Trump.

married 3 x & has 5 children from his 3 baby mamas. cheated on melania by raw dogging it with a porn star, putting both her & his yet to be born son at risk for all kindsa nasty cooties.

brought both his 1st trophy wife, & his CONcubine/soon to be the 2nd trophy wife on the same aspen ski vacation & sat by watching the fireworks fly when they crossed paths on the same slope - making a mockery & spectacle of the word 'marriage'.
ahhhhhhhhhh..........'CONservatives' - the party of family values.:lmao:



And this has what to do with the OP that enticed you to slither in?

it has everything to do with you starting a thread classifying only 'liberals' being against marriage & what it means to BE married, when your very own president tinkles is a big giant orange man whore who is a big giant failure when it comes to richer or poorer, in sickness & in health, until death does he part from.

ask ivana. ask marla. & melania probably has her days numbered as well. i know, i know, it's hard to refudiate the facts - but dems the breaks.
 
…Democrats/Liberals/Progressives…all of 'em!



1.No….not racism and slavery….they originated and supported it, until the Republicans pried their slaves away from them.
Not Russia…..they supported Russia, the Soviet Union, Joseph Stalin and the communists from FDR on.
But….Patriotism, America, the flag, the police, the military, marriage, family, religion, the unborn, …







2. Religion plus family equals marriage. I say it is a central benefit for society….so why

Are Liberals Against Marriage?

3. The continued plunge in the American birthrate, amid prosperity and low unemployment, has finally made fertility a topic that’s O.K. to worry about….there is one key fact about the recent decline in the American fertility rate that inevitably revives, rather than transcends, a long-running right-left argument.

4. … in the aggregate Republicans marry more and divorce less than Democrats, ideological conservatives are much more likely to be married than ideological liberals, and conservatives are more than twice as likely to describe marriage as something “needed” for “strong families.”

5. … look at trends within elite progressivism, I don’t think this gap is likely to soon close. And one does not have to regard liberals as the enemies of marriage, in some crude Leninist sense, to see that this gap matters for how our ideological factions regard the institution’s importance, its future, its place in public policy, its continued diminishment or possible revival.



6. … the question of why marriage has declined so precipitously in the first place still looms over the fertility discussion. And with it comes a longstanding liberal-versus-conservative disagreement about how much to emphasize economic trends versus cultural transformations — or, more tersely, neoliberalism versus cultural liberalism — to explaining the waning of wedlock.

7. “Barr’s recent speech attacking secular liberals is a somewhat different case: Edsall is right that it represents a more simplistic and partisan take, a view from 1980 that blames social liberalism for family breakdown without much nuance and doesn’t take enough account of social, economic and religious trends since. And Barr speaks for plenty of Republicans, which is why Rubio and Hawley have taken a lot of fire for their attempt at a new pro-family synthesis, in previews of post-Trump debates to come.

…the right’s why-marriage-declined story is presently contested, complicated, interesting and possibly getting closer to the necessarily complex truth.
Are liberals against marriage? | American Enterprise Institute - AEI

Next….

They're definitely against the normal family unit of father, mother and children. That is VERY apparent. (No pun intended.)
 
Donald Trump.

married 3 x & has 5 children from his 3 baby mamas. cheated on melania by raw dogging it with a porn star, putting both her & his yet to be born son at risk for all kindsa nasty cooties.

brought both his 1st trophy wife, & his CONcubine/soon to be the 2nd trophy wife on the same aspen ski vacation & sat by watching the fireworks fly when they crossed paths on the same slope - making a mockery & spectacle of the word 'marriage'.
ahhhhhhhhhh..........'CONservatives' - the party of family values.:lmao:



And this has what to do with the OP that enticed you to slither in?

it has everything to do with you starting a thread classifying only 'liberals' being against marriage & what it means to BE married, when your very own president tinkles is a big giant orange man whore who is a big giant failure when it comes to richer or poorer, in sickness & in health, until death does he part from.

ask ivana. ask marla. & melania probably has her days numbered as well. i know, i know, it's hard to refudiate the facts - but dems the breaks.


I love it when the mental instability forces you morons to claim something that every sentient individual knows is untrue....such as the claim that Progressives/Democrats/Liberals support family and marriage, traditional values.


Here's the author of the NYTimes essay saying it, you dunce.


9. I would divide the modern progressive approach to marriage into three distinct phases.

In the first phase, which covers the 1960s through the 1980s, there was a clear liberal-led attack on the institutional form of marriage as it existed then, on the legal and cultural structure that privileged heterosexual wedlock, pushed couples toward its rules and rituals, and then constrained them from divorce.This assault was undertaken in a spirit of social optimism, in the name of personal empowerment and (eventually) female equality, and infused with a confidence that the old legal and moral structures were simply oppressive, that in an enlightened society most people wouldn’t need normative models of partnering and child rearing to flourish and succeed.”
Opinion | Are Liberals Against Marriage? | best24News
 
Donald Trump.

married 3 x & has 5 children from his 3 baby mamas. cheated on melania by raw dogging it with a porn star, putting both her & his yet to be born son at risk for all kindsa nasty cooties.

brought both his 1st trophy wife, & his CONcubine/soon to be the 2nd trophy wife on the same aspen ski vacation & sat by watching the fireworks fly when they crossed paths on the same slope - making a mockery & spectacle of the word 'marriage'.
ahhhhhhhhhh..........'CONservatives' - the party of family values.:lmao:



And this has what to do with the OP that enticed you to slither in?

it has everything to do with you starting a thread classifying only 'liberals' being against marriage & what it means to BE married, when your very own president tinkles is a big giant orange man whore who is a big giant failure when it comes to richer or poorer, in sickness & in health, until death does he part from.

ask ivana. ask marla. & melania probably has her days numbered as well. i know, i know, it's hard to refudiate the facts - but dems the breaks.


I love it when the mental instability forces you morons to claim something that every sentient individual knows is untrue....such as the claim that Progressives/Democrats/Liberals support family and marriage, traditional values.


Here's the author of the NYTimes essay saying it, you dunce.


9. I would divide the modern progressive approach to marriage into three distinct phases.

In the first phase, which covers the 1960s through the 1980s, there was a clear liberal-led attack on the institutional form of marriage as it existed then, on the legal and cultural structure that privileged heterosexual wedlock, pushed couples toward its rules and rituals, and then constrained them from divorce.This assault was undertaken in a spirit of social optimism, in the name of personal empowerment and (eventually) female equality, and infused with a confidence that the old legal and moral structures were simply oppressive, that in an enlightened society most people wouldn’t need normative models of partnering and child rearing to flourish and succeed.”
Opinion | Are Liberals Against Marriage? | best24News

hmmmm splain that to my husband of 34 years & only father of my only son, that. so he can laugh @ you too.
 
rudy guliani getting divorced for the 3rd time.

rush limbaugh, married 4x.

newt gingrich, married 3 x - was cheating on his wife @ the same time he was going after clinton for.... wait for it..... cheating on his wife.
 
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This thread is stupid. Red states have higher divorce rates and higher food stamp participation than blue states.
 
When the new radical anti American democrat party has done nothing but RESIST since BEFORE the president was even inaugurated, and burnt out flower child CATHOLIC prayer wizard don't mess with her Pelosi has bills that would benefit the American people pilled up on her desk, the OP is spot on. You can't deny the proof.
 
Donald Trump.

married 3 x & has 5 children from his 3 baby mamas. cheated on melania by raw dogging it with a porn star, putting both her & his yet to be born son at risk for all kindsa nasty cooties.

brought both his 1st trophy wife, & his CONcubine/soon to be the 2nd trophy wife on the same aspen ski vacation & sat by watching the fireworks fly when they crossed paths on the same slope - making a mockery & spectacle of the word 'marriage'.
ahhhhhhhhhh..........'CONservatives' - the party of family values.:lmao:



And this has what to do with the OP that enticed you to slither in?

it has everything to do with you starting a thread classifying only 'liberals' being against marriage & what it means to BE married, when your very own president tinkles is a big giant orange man whore who is a big giant failure when it comes to richer or poorer, in sickness & in health, until death does he part from.

ask ivana. ask marla. & melania probably has her days numbered as well. i know, i know, it's hard to refudiate the facts - but dems the breaks.


I love it when the mental instability forces you morons to claim something that every sentient individual knows is untrue....such as the claim that Progressives/Democrats/Liberals support family and marriage, traditional values.


Here's the author of the NYTimes essay saying it, you dunce.


9. I would divide the modern progressive approach to marriage into three distinct phases.

In the first phase, which covers the 1960s through the 1980s, there was a clear liberal-led attack on the institutional form of marriage as it existed then, on the legal and cultural structure that privileged heterosexual wedlock, pushed couples toward its rules and rituals, and then constrained them from divorce.This assault was undertaken in a spirit of social optimism, in the name of personal empowerment and (eventually) female equality, and infused with a confidence that the old legal and moral structures were simply oppressive, that in an enlightened society most people wouldn’t need normative models of partnering and child rearing to flourish and succeed.”
Opinion | Are Liberals Against Marriage? | best24News

hmmmm splain that to my husband of 34 years & only father of my only son, that. so he can laugh @ you too.



Watch me make you jump through that hoop again:

Now....which party opposes the values, attitudes and traditions that made Western Civilization great?



I believe the gutter language you used in the hat above answers the question, doesn't it.
 
When the new radical anti American democrat party has done nothing but RESIST since BEFORE the president was even inaugurated, and burnt out flower child CATHOLIC prayer wizard don't mess with her Pelosi has bills that would benefit the American people pilled up on her desk, the OP is spot on. You can't deny the proof.





The James Bond villain Pelosi-galore....who claims to be a faithful Catholic....who supports abortion?

That hypocrite????
 
This thread is stupid. Red states have higher divorce rates and higher food stamp participation than blue states.


"Red States" you dunce????


First off.....this country will never be saved until we get back to the truth....that 'Red' is a term that has always been reserved for anarchists, communists.....and Democrats.
The proof of their power in the media is the switch of Red and Blue as indicators of the two parties.





Red is traditionally associated with socialism and communism. The oldest symbol of socialism (and, by extension, communism) is the Red Flag, which dates back to the revolutions of 1848. The colour red was chosen to represent the blood of the workers who died in the struggle against capitalism.

All major socialist and communist alliances and organisations – including theFirst,Second, and Third Internationals – used red as their official colour.

The association between the colour red and communism is particularly strong.Communists use red much more often and more extensively than other ideologies use their respective traditional colours.

§ In Europe and Latin America, red is also associated with parties ofsocial democracy, and often their allies within thelabour movement. Sometimes these parties use pink instead, as a "moderate" colour instead of the more "radical" red.

§ In the United States, since the year 2000, the mass media have associated red with the Republican Party, despite the fact that the Republican Party is a conservative-leaning party.
Political colour - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia




Perhaps we should go to Blue versus Gray, to represent the Republicans who fought slavery, and the grey the Confederates wore while fighting to maintain slavery.
 
I would divide the modern progressive approach to marriage into three distinct phases….



10. “The second phase I would call the period of reconsideration, in which liberals continued to believe that the core legal and social changes of the 1960s and 1970s had been necessary and just, but increasingly acknowledged that the larger cultural revolution had incurred Edsall’s “significant costs.” Liberals in this period continued to support no-fault divorce and legal abortion, continued to regard sexual fulfillment as an essential good and premarital chastity as an unrealistic ideal. But from the “Dan Quayle was right” arguments of the early 1990s onward, they also conceded that marriage is probably generally better for kids and maybe especially boys, that monogamy is often preferable to promiscuity and divorce is often undesirable, that welfare policy shouldn’t discourage wedlock and should maybe even encourage it, and that the decline of marriage at least contributed to the post-1960s struggles of the working class Opinion | Are Liberals Against Marriage? | best24News


....which party opposes the values, attitudes and traditions that made Western Civilization great?

That’s right: the party that sees human nature as no different from that of an animal in the jungle.
 
I would divide the modern progressive approach to marriage into three distinct phases….



11. “This is the social-liberalism-of-nuance that Edsall described in his column. It was especially powerful across the Bush and early Obama years — when the push to recognize same-sex unions was framed in deliberately conservative terms, when Barack Obama’s pro-family rhetoric and personal example were regularly cited as a positive influence on minority communities, when many sociologically minded liberals argued that there was an emerging “[Liberal] model” of marriage, egalitarian and secular rather than patriarchal and religious, that was showing the way forward even as families fractured more in culturally conservative regions that hadn’t adapted to feminism yet.”

…this liberal worldview was and is essentially pro-marriage, in the sense of believing that it’s good for society to have a single normative destination to which most couples arrive, a single normative institution in which most children will be raised — and in the sense of favoring a mild cultural and political pressure in its favor, encompassing forces and ideas (religion, gender difference) that are not necessarily progressive.” Opinion | Are Liberals Against Marriage? | best24News




…a single normative institution in which most children will be raised…”

How 'normative'???


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Let's take as an example, traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..
....which is the radical position?
Hence, Far Left.

Need convincing? Well, a common social reference is 'the nuclear family.' It has always menant:
" a family group that consists only of father, mother, and children" Definition of NUCLEAR FAMILY


How about 'traditional family'?
"A traditional family is a family structure that consists of a man, woman and one or more of their biological or adopted children. In most traditional families, the man and woman are husband and wife." Traditional Family: Definition & Concept | Study.com




So....as far as the concept of marriage and family, where do we find the radical position?
The Left....the Democrat Party
Hence, 'Far Left.'



There is no "Far Right" in this country.
 
12. “Over the last 10 years, however … I think we have reached a third phase in liberal attitudes toward marriage, a new outworking of cultural individualism that may eventually render the nuanced liberalism my colleague describes obsolete.

This new phase …. the emerging progressivism seems hostile not only to anything tainted by conservative religion or gender essentialism but to any idea of sexual or reproductive normativity, period, outside a bureaucratically supervised definition of “consent.” And it’s therefore disinclined to regard lifelong monogamy as anything more than one choice among many, one script to play with or abandon, one way of being whose decline should not necessarily be mourned, and whose still-outsize cultural power probably requires further deconstruction to be anything more than a patriarchal holdover, a prison and a trap.

…the new phase tracks with the recent decline in childbearing. If the new liberal hostility to marriage-as-normative-… is at least a post facto ideological excuse, in which the frequent prestige-media pitches for polyamory or open marriages or escaping gender norms entirely are there to reassure people who might otherwise desire a little more normativity (and a few more children) in their lives, that it’s all cool because they’re in the vanguard of a revolution.”
Opinion | Are Liberals Against Marriage? | best24News



"...the new phase tracks with the recent decline in childbearing."

How often do we see this same pattern: religious folks have lots more children, having faith in the future, than Liberals/Democrats/Progressives who have no such belief.....

....they are nihilists.
 

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