Democrats and A Conundrum...

[The Rabbi]

Rabbi - I know how you love to cheery pick, yep he's has been there 8 months, what would you have him do asswipe

Asswiping is about all that useless clown is good for.

How about:
cutting corporate taxes
reducing regulation
allowing oil drilling in the US
cutting gov't programs that have been proven failures
creating a limited presence in Afghanistan that will keep the Taliban from taking control
working with the GOP on issues of shared interest (like he promised).
showing concern for a bad economy instead of pushing an expensive unworkable health care bill (whatever it is right now)
not subbing out his agenda to the left wing in Congress

Actually if he would just do what he promised to do during his election, I might have some respect for that. But as it is he has welched on every single promise he's made.

 

[Dr Grump]

You be talking Yank-speak!! What is BMD?

LMAO! Ballistic Missile Defense...the Poland/Russian-panties-in-a-twist thing.

Oh right....

 

[oreo]

it's not like there was a lot of choice...

Hillary would have been a better president....

Hillary would have made a much better President. The one thing she is not is a socialist. In fact, I think most Americans would be doing hand-springs in the street if she were in office, compared to this.

Obama is extremely inexperienced--& it shows. He has brought his community organizing skills to the White house--& he's done it--with lord knows how many czars. A Czar for this--problem handled--A Czar for that--problem handled. He's a delegator of all projects--he doesn't roll up his sleeves & dive into it.

Obama spends more time giving speeches on television than he does working on problems.

 

[potter 58]

so dickhead , what were W credentials other than daddy's and grandpa's money?

 

[Lumpy 1]

I find it difficult to believe that Democrats are that satisfied with the direction the countries moving in, the economy, unemployment, national debt, spandex government control health care and blah,blah, blah...

That really isn't the point of my post. The point is, why do they support and justify what can't possibly be good for the country? We all saw this when Clinton was President, without going into specifics they rationalized the unjustifiable.

Now it seems, Obama and the Democratic leadership are getting the same blind eyed treatment from both a great percentage of the media and Democrats in general.
Does it just come down to hero worship, fear of failure, winning at any cost, beating the Republicans or is it true and honest belief, WHAT, it's a conundrum to me?...

Color me slow, but what specifically is your question, and what specifcally do you feel the Democrats and/or Obama are doing wrong?

....Well Sir, coy, playing possum, maybe, but slow I sincerely doubt..

Bluntly:
(1) Do Democrats have any problem with the direction the countries moving in (1st para.)? (2) If they do, why don't we hear about it (para 2, 3)?

It seems rather than voicing an opposing view Democrats/media are more invested in justifying (para 1) policies, I have doubts they believe in.
( best I can do, bluntly)...

 

[The Rabbi]

so dickhead , what were W credentials other than daddy's and grandpa's money?

Are you that slow that you can't look it up?
Bush had far more experience than Obama, having been governor of TX for 2 terms, and very successful at it.
He also has an MBA from Harvard and has actually created wealth in his personal life, unlike the present undocumented worker in the White House who has only spent other people's money.

 

[jillian]

so dickhead , what were W credentials other than daddy's and grandpa's money?

Are you that slow that you can't look it up?
Bush had far more experience than Obama, having been governor of TX for 2 terms, and very successful at it.
He also has an MBA from Harvard and has actually created wealth in his personal life, unlike the present undocumented worker in the White House who has only spent other people's money.

Actually, Bush failed at business and had to be bailed out by daddy's saud friends' money. He may well be one of the few people ever to drive an oil company into the ground. And he didn't do so well with his baseball team either.

 

[rightwinger]

This thread appears to be more sour grapes from those of the political persuasion that were so roundly rejected by "We the People" in the last two elections.
Continually posting that the Obama administration is a failure does nothing towards regaining political power for the republicans. They need to establish some solid ideas on how they think the country should be run. The tired old "lower taxes, anti-gay, protect my guns and stop abortion" is not going to work any more with moderates. republicans need a new platform and moderate candidates if they expect to appeal to 21st century voters

The "Grand Old Party" is now just the "Old Party"

 

[The Rabbi]

so dickhead , what were W credentials other than daddy's and grandpa's money?

Are you that slow that you can't look it up?
Bush had far more experience than Obama, having been governor of TX for 2 terms, and very successful at it.
He also has an MBA from Harvard and has actually created wealth in his personal life, unlike the present undocumented worker in the White House who has only spent other people's money.

Actually, Bush failed at business and had to be bailed out by daddy's saud friends' money. He may well be one of the few people ever to drive an oil company into the ground. And he didn't do so well with his baseball team either.

It would be a decent sound bite if it were actually true.
And of course you ignored the succesful (and unprecedented) two terms as governor of TX.
Of course none of this has to do with the issue of Democrats selling this country down the river for their own political gains, which is the topic here.
Nice way to redirect.

 

[editec]

I find it difficult to believe that Democrats are that satisfied with the direction the countries moving in, the economy, unemployment, national debt, spandex government control health care and blah,blah, blah...

I'm not entirely covinced that Democrats are satisfied with the direction this nation is headed.

If they're satisfied, it's more like they're satisfied that Bush II and his admin are gone.

That really isn't the point of my post. The point is, why do they support and justify what can't possibly be good for the country?

The DNC, ,much like the RNC takes its marching orders from a very select group of people who aren't as much concerned with what's good for the nation overall, as what's good for the people who own both parties.

We all saw this when Clinton was President, without going into specifics they rationalized the unjustifiable.

And we did not ALSO see this under Bush II?

Now it seems, Obama and the Democratic leadership are getting the same blind eyed treatment from both a great percentage of the media and Democrats in general.

Actually on that issue I agree.

But had you said that about Bush II I'd have also agreed.

The media is a propaganda tool, not a source of information. And it doesn't much matter what party has the power.

Does it just come down to hero worship, fear of failure, winning at any cost, beating the Republicans or is it true and honest belief, WHAT, it's a conundrum to me?...

It comes down to convincing partisans that the OTHER PARTY is the bad guys.

Seems to have worked on you, I note, based on how you framed this discussion.

 

[VaYank5150]

You be talking Yank-speak!! What is BMD?

Hey now....

 

[VaYank5150]

I find it difficult to believe that Democrats are that satisfied with the direction the countries moving in, the economy, unemployment, national debt, spandex government control health care and blah,blah, blah...

That really isn't the point of my post. The point is, why do they support and justify what can't possibly be good for the country? We all saw this when Clinton was President, without going into specifics they rationalized the unjustifiable.

Now it seems, Obama and the Democratic leadership are getting the same blind eyed treatment from both a great percentage of the media and Democrats in general.
Does it just come down to hero worship, fear of failure, winning at any cost, beating the Republicans or is it true and honest belief, WHAT, it's a conundrum to me?...

Color me slow, but what specifically is your question, and what specifcally do you feel the Democrats and/or Obama are doing wrong?

....Well Sir, coy, playing possum, maybe, but slow I sincerely doubt..

Bluntly:
(1) Do Democrats have any problem with the direction the countries moving in (1st para.)? (2) If they do, why don't we hear about it (para 2, 3)?

It seems rather than voicing an opposing view Democrats/media are more invested in justifying (para 1) policies, I have doubts they believe in.
( best I can do, bluntly)...

1) You REALLY should be more specific when using terms as suggestive as "the direction this country's headed". Personally, I am NOT concerned with the direction this country's headed. Obama is making good decisions on foreign policy, although I have to admit, I had hoped to be more out of Iraq and more focused on Afghanistan by now.

So, are you going to take me at my word? Is my reasoning good enough for YOU? Or will morons like Malcontent and Fatality clean up this thread for you now that I have laid my position out on the table?

 

[The Rabbi]

If you consider igniting a trade war with our biggest creditor, trashing the currency, conceding to our enemies and screwing our friends to be good decisions.

 

[VaYank5150]

If you consider igniting a trade war with our biggest creditor, trashing the currency, conceding to our enemies and screwing our friends to be good decisions.

I am noticing a pattern here. NO specifics from the righht. Hell, even Glenn Beck is willing to give specifics, so you must be taking your talking points from Hannity, now?

 

[The Rabbi]

If you consider igniting a trade war with our biggest creditor, trashing the currency, conceding to our enemies and screwing our friends to be good decisions.

I am noticing a pattern here. NO specifics from the righht. Hell, even Glenn Beck is willing to give specifics, so you must be taking your talking points from Hannity, now?

Look who's talking. I mention 4 specific things while you're OK with "the direction the country is going."
You must be reading Maureen Dowd.

 

[VaYank5150]

If you consider igniting a trade war with our biggest creditor, trashing the currency, conceding to our enemies and screwing our friends to be good decisions.

Our biggest creditor is China. How did Obama ignite a trade war?
Trashing the currency? You mean doing the exact same thing every other President has done as far as getting credit in the past?
Conceding to our enemies? Please be more specific.
Screwing our friends? Again, no specifics?

 

[Si modo]

If you consider igniting a trade war with our biggest creditor, trashing the currency, conceding to our enemies and screwing our friends to be good decisions.

I am noticing a pattern here. NO specifics from the righht. Hell, even Glenn Beck is willing to give specifics, so you must be taking your talking points from Hannity, now?

Look who's talking. I mention 4 specific things while you're OK with "the direction the country is going."
You must be reading Maureen Dowd.

From my experience, VaYank has a genuine interest in understanding others' views and in sharing his (he has some excellent points to make, IMO). He is being honest in asking you to clarify. Who knows, maybe both of you will at least understand each other.

 

[Missourian]

If you consider igniting a trade war with our biggest creditor, trashing the currency, conceding to our enemies and screwing our friends to be good decisions.

Our biggest creditor is China. How did Obama ignite a trade war?
Trashing the currency? You mean doing the exact same thing every other President has done as far as getting credit in the past?
Conceding to our enemies? Please be more specific.
Screwing our friends? Again, no specifics?

Dude...you should be more informed if you're going to post here.

China = Tires.

Missile defense out of Poland and Czechoslovakia (screwing out friends) to appease Russia and Iran (conceding to our enemies).

 

[The Rabbi]

Add an unprecedented increase in the money supply, unending commitments from the Federal gov't for more money, getting ready to cut and run in afghanistan (this one is on its way).
Sorry for not spelling it out. I just assumed that someone who felt comfortable addressing me as "dickweed" actually bothers to read the front page of newspapers from time to time.