Democrat ties to Russian lawyer are now coming out.....

[Faun]

Nope. The national election determines the will of the States via the Electoral College. This was common elementary knowledge when I was in school.

Okay, keep pretending the 18th century anachronism gives your boy legitimacy.

Poll: Trump's six-month approval rating hits historic low

President Donald Trump has hit the lowest approval rating of any president during their first six months in office in 70 years, according to a new ABC News/Washington Post poll.

Thirty-six percent of those surveyed approve of the president's job performance, which is six points down from his 100-day mark, while 58 percent disapprove of Trump's performance.

That "18th century anachronism" is the law of the land whether you like it or not. It has withstood the test of time of 240 years. If you don't like it, elect enough soul mate law makers to change it or live with it and shut up.

Why do Democrat always bitch about the legitimate election of a Republican president??

BTW, the authors of that "16th century anachronism" gave you and the socialist/liberal press the freedom to mouth off mindlessly about those you hate because they are better than you.

Your ilk has no idea how to be tolerant and patient. You and your ilk gave no honeymoon this president, usually given to all previous presidents, In fact the vicious attacks started the moment he announced his intention to run for president, You and your ilk in the press demand immediate results from this president to keep his campaign promises, while you gave an eight year pass to Obama about closing Gitmo.

No surprise about approval ratings. This president is being opposed and attacked by by vindictive personal grudges like John McCain. Sabotaged by RINO's like Paul Ryan and ancient fossil Mitch McConnell. Derided by most nobodies in the press and entertainment industry.

Is any wonder his approval ratings are low, in the face of such irrational and unreasonable opposition?

When so many oppose you, you must be doing something right.

Of course his ratings are low. He hasn't passed any significant legislation.

 

[Faun]

Why do Democrat always bitch about the legitimate election of a Republican president??

Because when the other guy gets more votes, it's not legitimate.

BTW, the authors of that "16th century anachronism" gave you and the socialist/liberal press the freedom to mouth off mindlessly about those you hate because they are better than you.

wouldn't know, haven't met anyone who is better than me.

Your ilk has no idea how to be tolerant and patient. You and your ilk gave no honeymoon this president, usually given to all previous presidents, In fact the vicious attacks started the moment he announced his intention to run for president, You and your ilk in the press demand immediate results from this president to keep his campaign promises, while you gave an eight year pass to Obama about closing Gitmo.

Here's the difference. Obama actually got things done. Trump has accomplished pretty much nothing.

No surprise about approval ratings. This president is being opposed and attacked by by vindictive personal grudges like John McCain. Sabotaged by RINO's like Paul Ryan and ancient fossil Mitch McConnell. Derided by most nobodies in the press and entertainment industry.

Is any wonder his approval ratings are low, in the face of such irrational and unreasonable opposition?

No, it isn't a wonder when a petulent man-child who the people didn't want screws up everything.

The electoral college gave

That "18th century anachronism" is the law of the land whether you like it or not. It has withstood the test of time of 240 years. If you don't like it, elect enough soul mate law makers to change it or live with it and shut up.

Guy, just because your fucked up system exists doesn't make it good.

When the EC has overridden the will of the people, it has ALWAYS been a disaster - Bush, Trump, Hayes....

The people get these things right.

Trump is clearly showing himself unfit for office. Every day.

And you guys keep pretending something hasn't gone horribly wrong.

Did you voice the same concerns when the Electoral Collegegave the presidency to Bill Clinton, TWICE, with less than 50%+1??

The difference being, of course, unlike Trump, Bill Clinton got the most votes of any candidate running and did not receive a majority of the popular vote because it was a three-way race.

 

[FJO]

Why do Democrat always bitch about the legitimate election of a Republican president??

Because when the other guy gets more votes, it's not legitimate.

BTW, the authors of that "16th century anachronism" gave you and the socialist/liberal press the freedom to mouth off mindlessly about those you hate because they are better than you.

wouldn't know, haven't met anyone who is better than me.

Your ilk has no idea how to be tolerant and patient. You and your ilk gave no honeymoon this president, usually given to all previous presidents, In fact the vicious attacks started the moment he announced his intention to run for president, You and your ilk in the press demand immediate results from this president to keep his campaign promises, while you gave an eight year pass to Obama about closing Gitmo.

Here's the difference. Obama actually got things done. Trump has accomplished pretty much nothing.

No surprise about approval ratings. This president is being opposed and attacked by by vindictive personal grudges like John McCain. Sabotaged by RINO's like Paul Ryan and ancient fossil Mitch McConnell. Derided by most nobodies in the press and entertainment industry.

Is any wonder his approval ratings are low, in the face of such irrational and unreasonable opposition?

No, it isn't a wonder when a petulent man-child who the people didn't want screws up everything.

The electoral college gave

That "18th century anachronism" is the law of the land whether you like it or not. It has withstood the test of time of 240 years. If you don't like it, elect enough soul mate law makers to change it or live with it and shut up.

Guy, just because your fucked up system exists doesn't make it good.

When the EC has overridden the will of the people, it has ALWAYS been a disaster - Bush, Trump, Hayes....

The people get these things right.

Trump is clearly showing himself unfit for office. Every day.

And you guys keep pretending something hasn't gone horribly wrong.

Did you voice the same concerns when the Electoral Collegegave the presidency to Bill Clinton, TWICE, with less than 50%+1??

The difference being, of course, unlike Trump, Bill Clinton got the most votes of any candidate running and did not receive a majority of the popular vote because it was a three-way race.

True, but nevertheless Clinton did not get majority either time, and therein lies the wisdom of the Electoral College.

In a confederation like the United States it is the majority of states, rather than the majority of the total population decides the winner.

SO:

Trump 30.
Clinton 20.

Live with it.

 

[Faun]

Why do Democrat always bitch about the legitimate election of a Republican president??

Because when the other guy gets more votes, it's not legitimate.

BTW, the authors of that "16th century anachronism" gave you and the socialist/liberal press the freedom to mouth off mindlessly about those you hate because they are better than you.

wouldn't know, haven't met anyone who is better than me.

Your ilk has no idea how to be tolerant and patient. You and your ilk gave no honeymoon this president, usually given to all previous presidents, In fact the vicious attacks started the moment he announced his intention to run for president, You and your ilk in the press demand immediate results from this president to keep his campaign promises, while you gave an eight year pass to Obama about closing Gitmo.

Here's the difference. Obama actually got things done. Trump has accomplished pretty much nothing.

No surprise about approval ratings. This president is being opposed and attacked by by vindictive personal grudges like John McCain. Sabotaged by RINO's like Paul Ryan and ancient fossil Mitch McConnell. Derided by most nobodies in the press and entertainment industry.

Is any wonder his approval ratings are low, in the face of such irrational and unreasonable opposition?

No, it isn't a wonder when a petulent man-child who the people didn't want screws up everything.

The electoral college gave

That "18th century anachronism" is the law of the land whether you like it or not. It has withstood the test of time of 240 years. If you don't like it, elect enough soul mate law makers to change it or live with it and shut up.

Guy, just because your fucked up system exists doesn't make it good.

When the EC has overridden the will of the people, it has ALWAYS been a disaster - Bush, Trump, Hayes....

The people get these things right.

Trump is clearly showing himself unfit for office. Every day.

And you guys keep pretending something hasn't gone horribly wrong.

Did you voice the same concerns when the Electoral Collegegave the presidency to Bill Clinton, TWICE, with less than 50%+1??

The difference being, of course, unlike Trump, Bill Clinton got the most votes of any candidate running and did not receive a majority of the popular vote because it was a three-way race.

True, but nevertheless Clinton did not get majority either time, and therein lies the wisdom of the Electoral College.

In a confederation like the United States it is the majority of states, rather than the majority of the total population decides the winner.

SO:

Trump 30.
Clinton 20.

Live with it.

States don't get 1 vote each; and for good reason.

 

[FJO]

Why do Democrat always bitch about the legitimate election of a Republican president??

Because when the other guy gets more votes, it's not legitimate.

BTW, the authors of that "16th century anachronism" gave you and the socialist/liberal press the freedom to mouth off mindlessly about those you hate because they are better than you.

wouldn't know, haven't met anyone who is better than me.

Your ilk has no idea how to be tolerant and patient. You and your ilk gave no honeymoon this president, usually given to all previous presidents, In fact the vicious attacks started the moment he announced his intention to run for president, You and your ilk in the press demand immediate results from this president to keep his campaign promises, while you gave an eight year pass to Obama about closing Gitmo.

Here's the difference. Obama actually got things done. Trump has accomplished pretty much nothing.

No surprise about approval ratings. This president is being opposed and attacked by by vindictive personal grudges like John McCain. Sabotaged by RINO's like Paul Ryan and ancient fossil Mitch McConnell. Derided by most nobodies in the press and entertainment industry.

Is any wonder his approval ratings are low, in the face of such irrational and unreasonable opposition?

No, it isn't a wonder when a petulent man-child who the people didn't want screws up everything.

The electoral college gave

That "18th century anachronism" is the law of the land whether you like it or not. It has withstood the test of time of 240 years. If you don't like it, elect enough soul mate law makers to change it or live with it and shut up.

Guy, just because your fucked up system exists doesn't make it good.

When the EC has overridden the will of the people, it has ALWAYS been a disaster - Bush, Trump, Hayes....

The people get these things right.

Trump is clearly showing himself unfit for office. Every day.

And you guys keep pretending something hasn't gone horribly wrong.

Did you voice the same concerns when the Electoral Collegegave the presidency to Bill Clinton, TWICE, with less than 50%+1??

The difference being, of course, unlike Trump, Bill Clinton got the most votes of any candidate running and did not receive a majority of the popular vote because it was a three-way race.

True, but nevertheless Clinton did not get majority either time, and therein lies the wisdom of the Electoral College.

In a confederation like the United States it is the majority of states, rather than the majority of the total population decides the winner.

SO:

Trump 30.
Clinton 20.

Live with it.

States don't get 1 vote each; and for good reason.

They do and they did:

Trump 30
Clinton 20.

Live with it.

 

[HaShev]

They don't teach about the Electoral College anymore so they can say this bogus, unofficial popular vote should be how the President is elected.

actually, most people would consider the EC pretty ridiculous if they spent time thinking about it

Most people are fucking idiots thanks to you people, your media and a half century of ignorance of the public education system. I find it to be an expression of genius, and I am hardly alone in that assessment.

but the subject usually doesn't come up because usually, it confirms what the people wanted.

It doesn't come up because the US Constitution is no longer taught in American schools. That's why so many of you people were surprised by it.

We have a president most of us didn't want. It's becoming clear why most of us didn't want him.

Tough shit. He's the president. If you don't like the game, find enough supporters to change the rules. Until then, sit on a spindle.

Water's World On the Street College People Question Segment validates what you said.
The many tv shows on dumb things people do only helps present your point.
Injection of Neurons can not come too soon.

 

[HaShev]

Remember you are the one who INADVERTANTLY called your own party conspiracy nuts by saying:
"weirdo conspiracy theories"
in regard to what Bill Clinton himself admitted

Dude, I'm not wasting time on your crazy.. next argument

Fact this whole conspiracy rant from the left claims it's to find out and prevent countries from manipulating our elections, however if that was true you'd be equally outraged and investigating the Ukraine and Mexico interference.=caught lying about motive and unbias.

Again, Mexico and the Ukraine don't have thousands of nukes pointed at us. Russia does.

1) you keep repeating your ad hominems
Calling people stupid and crazy everytime your stumped to refute stuff is not a valid argument, which means you use these
ad hominems to delude yourself.
2) Your party is claiming concern over election interference that you now admit is phoney, and that excuse smokescreen was one of the worst spins I've seen yet.
3)Mexico has killed more people through lobbing it's bags of drugs over our way then anyone has ever done with 0 nukes sent towards us. Ukraines interference forces Russias counter actions. Once again epic failed arguments. You were better off labeling my posts names towards demonizing me like your party has to do with it's opponents. Notice the pattern, you and your party have nothing, so it resorts to negative attacks of persons not subjects and topics.
4)Yes Ukraine is claimed nuke free, but doesn't change the interference narrative which you inadvertantly admited is not getting equal billing and concern.
However, although they agreed to destroy the weapons, and to join the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, tell us how that worked out with our Dem gov't when claiming Syria destroyed all their bio weapons. Iran claiming it had no nuke facility production plants, how did that work out?
Baghdad Bob telling his people
there were no American troups at the Baghdad airport? Seems people lie and you don't find out till it's too late. But that doesnct matter 'cause it's not about who has nukes or not, it's about election tampering period and you proved your party is lying and disingenuous.

 

[JoeB131]

I've spent time thinking about the EC and it is brilliant. It protects the "fly over country" you Progs hate so much from the over reach of the Elites on the East and West coast.

That's nice. Who protects the parts of the country where people actually live from you Rubes in Jesusland?

You if the East Coast and West coasts became their own countries, and Jesusland became it's own country, Jesusland would become a third world country pretty quickly.

Now you "think about this" : "The reason that the Constitution calls for this extra layer (meaning the Electoral College) , rather than just providing for the direct election of the president, is that most of the nation’s founders were actually rather afraid of democracy.

Yes. They were afraid the people might elect a celebrity who had no business being president because he lacked the experience, intellect and temperament to be president.

Except the people didn't do that, the Electoral College did.

The people got it right. Hillary wasn't great, but she'd be adequate.

 

[JoeB131]

1) you keep repeating your ad hominems
Calling people stupid and crazy everytime your stumped to refute stuff is not a valid argument, which means you use these
ad hominems to delude yourself.

Guy, whenever someone tells me they know what "really happened" on 9/11, that's almost always a sign of crazy.

It's like the Moon Landing or the JFK Assassination. It just brings out the crazy.

 

[JoeB131]

3)Mexico has killed more people through lobbing it's bags of drugs over our way then anyone has ever done with 0 nukes sent towards us.

Did the Mexicans put guns to our heads and make us take those drugs? Oh, no, wait. We've taken them voluntarily.

 

[JoeB131]

/----/ When you say "your fucked up system" does that mean you're not American? What country are you from?

I'm from this one. Sadly, I found out half the country are racist dipshits who would rather destroy the country than put a black or a woman in charge.

 

[JoeB131]

Did you voice the same concerns when the Electoral Collegegave the presidency to Bill Clinton, TWICE, with less than 50%+1??

He still got more votes than anyone else.

So let's look at that. If we had a system like France, where instead of counting up states, we had runoff elections between the top two.

In 1992, Clinton would have won because Perot's voters were as sick of Poppy Bush as everyone else.

In 1996, Clinton would have still won because Perot's voters weren't going to vote for tired old Bob Dole who couldn't even rationalize his own candidacy. (Saddest moment, when he quit the senate in a publicity stunt and talked about all the government programs he created in his career.)

In 2000, Nader's voters would have voted for Gore.

In 2016, well, maybe Stein and Johnson's voters would have gone for Trump, but mostly people voted for those two clowns because the media told them that "Hillary was just as bad' and "She had it in the bag because there was no way Trump could win."

Most people are fucking idiots thanks to you people, your media and a half century of ignorance of the public education system. I find it to be an expression of genius, and I am hardly alone in that assessment.

I'm not seeing how disenfranchising most of the country's voters is smart. If it were smart, why doesn't any other country have one? Why don't we elect Governors or Senators or Mayors or Dog Catchers that way?

The reason why it gets no attention is because between 1892 and 1996, the guy who won the popular vote won the election. Even in 2000, it was close enough where you could say "Meh".

This case. EVERYONE knows this is bad and wrong. Even Republican Leaders are mortified every time this Orange Shitgibbon gets on Twitter.

Tough shit. He's the president. If you don't like the game, find enough supporters to change the rules. Until then, sit on a spindle.

The thing is, bud, this isn't a 'game'. People will live or die depending on how well this guy can do his job.

The thing was, you all treated this election like you were picking the winner on "Celebrity Apprentice".

 

[Cellblock2429]

/----/ When you say "your fucked up system" does that mean you're not American? What country are you from?

I'm from this one. Sadly, I found out half the country are racist dipshits who would rather destroy the country than put a black or a woman in charge.

/----/ Geeeze Liberals and their stereotypes. Explain this Tinkerbell:
List of African-American Republicans - Wikipedia
top25Women

Now why do racist Libs attack Dr Ben Carson or Gov Palin?

 

[Cellblock2429]

I've spent time thinking about the EC and it is brilliant. It protects the "fly over country" you Progs hate so much from the over reach of the Elites on the East and West coast.

That's nice. Who protects the parts of the country where people actually live from you Rubes in Jesusland?

You if the East Coast and West coasts became their own countries, and Jesusland became it's own country, Jesusland would become a third world country pretty quickly.

Now you "think about this" : "The reason that the Constitution calls for this extra layer (meaning the Electoral College) , rather than just providing for the direct election of the president, is that most of the nation’s founders were actually rather afraid of democracy.

Yes. They were afraid the people might elect a celebrity who had no business being president because he lacked the experience, intellect and temperament to be president.

Except the people didn't do that, the Electoral College did.

The people got it right. Hillary wasn't great, but she'd be adequate.

/----/ "people might elect a celebrity who had no business being president because he lacked the experience, intellect and temperament to be president. " You mean like Barack Obama? You mean like him?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Most people are fucking idiots thanks to you people, your media and a half century of ignorance of the public education system. I find it to be an expression of genius, and I am hardly alone in that assessment.

I'm not seeing how disenfranchising most of the country's voters is smart. If it were smart, why doesn't any other country have one? Why don't we elect Governors or Senators or Mayors or Dog Catchers that way?

The reason why it gets no attention is because between 1892 and 1996, the guy who won the popular vote won the election. Even in 2000, it was close enough where you could say "Meh".

This case. EVERYONE knows this is bad and wrong. Even Republican Leaders are mortified every time this Orange Shitgibbon gets on Twitter.

No one is disenfranchising voters. The process is working as designed. You have been advised many times as to your options.

No, it gets no attention because people have been systematically stupified by public education.

Republican leaders need to spend less time worrying about Trump's tweets and their vacation time, and actually do some work.

Tough shit. He's the president. If you don't like the game, find enough supporters to change the rules. Until then, sit on a spindle.

The thing is, bud, this isn't a 'game'. People will live or die depending on how well this guy can do his job.

The thing was, you all treated this election like you were picking the winner on "Celebrity Apprentice".

Oh, but it IS a game, scamp. Absolutely.

I dunno about anyone else, but I treated this election as an opportunity to stop the Democrats. It worked.

Now we watch to see if the Republicans can blow up their earned advantage. It's certainly looking that way.

 

[FJO]

I've spent time thinking about the EC and it is brilliant. It protects the "fly over country" you Progs hate so much from the over reach of the Elites on the East and West coast.

That's nice. Who protects the parts of the country where people actually live from you Rubes in Jesusland?

You if the East Coast and West coasts became their own countries, and Jesusland became it's own country, Jesusland would become a third world country pretty quickly.

Now you "think about this" : "The reason that the Constitution calls for this extra layer (meaning the Electoral College) , rather than just providing for the direct election of the president, is that most of the nation’s founders were actually rather afraid of democracy.

Yes. They were afraid the people might elect a celebrity who had no business being president because he lacked the experience, intellect and temperament to be president.

Except the people didn't do that, the Electoral College did.

The people got it right. Hillary wasn't great, but she'd be adequate.

Better a controversial and politically inexperienced president, who may prove to be, given time and a chance, a great one, than one who needs politically correct affirmative action - female - to be considered, very generously, adequate.

 

[HaShev]

1) you keep repeating your ad hominems
Calling people stupid and crazy everytime your stumped to refute stuff is not a valid argument, which means you use these
ad hominems to delude yourself.

Guy, whenever someone tells me they know what "really happened" on 9/11, that's almost always a sign of crazy.

It's like the Moon Landing or the JFK Assassination. It just brings out the crazy.

I never talked about what happened on 911.
Never said such a thing in the manner you are fallaciously selling it, so you are imagining things &
inadvertantly calling Bill Clinton and yourself crazy. Don't beat up yourself, you just can't comprehend what you read or hear.

Once again catching a liberal lying and using their own new narrative.

 

[HaShev]

3)Mexico has killed more people through lobbing it's bags of drugs over our way then anyone has ever done with 0 nukes sent towards us.

Did the Mexicans put guns to our heads and make us take those drugs? Oh, no, wait. We've taken them voluntarily.

So now not only did your party, & you formerly, say no illegals voted, but now you claim no Mexico interference or guns placed on our heads.
www.wptv.com/news/state/federal-prosecutor-beranton-j-whisenant-jr-found-dead-on-hollywood-florida-beach

Mexico interfered with the election signing up permanent residents of their country
to stop Trump,
behind the voter registration effort, led by Immigrant Voters Win PAC — a group of 30 community organizer groups dedicated to promoting illegal immigrants.
Even residents of other countries got naturalized to get in on this voter fraud.
One woman from Honduras said she responded to the Mexican government’s initiative. For Media and Senators to say ZERO registered voted is so insulting to intelligence when the information and studies of past elections show this problem and we knew of these rush naturalization tricks Hillary and Obama was using to cheat the elections. Obama risked our national security to cheat and interfere with the election for Hillary.

 

[HaShev]

They were afraid the people might elect a celebrity who had no business being president because he lacked the experience, intellect and temperament to be president.

1)Obama had less experience the Palin and your party busted on her experience.
You've never worked in construction
to know Donald's experience and ability to put difficult projects together ahead of schedule and on budget with huge workforce and supply issues to manage, is more then any Senate ir Governor experience missing votes and trashing projects partcway through, after money is already wasted because they can't manage budgets and do projects within that allotment.
2)And it turned out the one with temperment issues was Hillary not Donald.
They tried hard to rattle him as a strategy and forgot to stop after elected=the leftcs temperment as a whole is now
in question.
3)Turned out Trumps negotiation and people skills and creative strategic meetings are very well received and sucessful trips are so threatening in making Dems expectations look like a lie that they needed to counter each trip with fake news attacks on Trumps team and family. Hillary's foreign affairs are riddled with controversy, death, and displacement of millions. So the better foreign
relations persona was Trump all along.
4)Hillary fallaciously claimed
Donald would push a nuke button in anger even though she is supposed to know the protocol would make that impossible, so either she's completely stupid or a pathelogical liar. Turned out her anger over the election was the one pushing Russias buttons and almost got us in a war with them while Trump was the
one who calmed that down with level headed diplomacy. Oh how ironic.

 

[westwall]

WHY WOULD THE DNC SET UP TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN AND NOT USE IT BEFORE THE ELECTION AND INSTEAD WAIT UNTIL JULY THE FOLLOWING YEAR? IT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE. THEY WOULD HAVE RELEASED THE INFO BEFORE THE ELECTION TO HELP CLINTON WIN.

GIVE IT UP... IT WAS NOT SOME KIND OF TRICKY SET UP!

What this shows is that from the very beginning the DNC and the shrilary campaign have been in bed with the russians. We all knew this, but you ignored it for your own particular reason.