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Annie

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060610/ap_on_go_co/house_democrats_blacks
Pelosi effort to take away post divisive

By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent 1 hour, 20 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi juggled competing political goals on Friday, seeking to drain racial tension from her attempt to strip embattled Rep. William Jefferson of his committee seat.


Facing a showdown next week that he is likely to lose, Jefferson, D-La., signaled anew he will not step aside voluntarily, and some fellow members of the
Congressional Black Caucus spoke out on his behalf.

"The Black Caucus takes exception when we become the exception to the rule. We want the same standards," said Rep. Donald Payne (news, bio, voting record), D-N.J. He noted that the Louisianan has denied wrongdoing in a federal bribery probe and has not been indicted.

At the same time, several officials said that Rep. John Lewis (news, bio, voting record) of Georgia, who is black, was the lawmaker who formally proposed at a closed-door meeting Thursday night that Jefferson be stripped of his committee assignment. Lewis, who first gained fame as a civil rights pioneer in the 1960s, declined to comment.

While Jefferson maintains his innocence, two men have been convicted in the investigation and the
FBI claims it has videotaped evidence of him accepting bribe money. The two include a former aide to the congressman as well as a businessman who pleaded guilty May 3 to paying more than $400,000 in bribes to the lawmaker.

The controversy has left some Democrats in an awkward position. Eager to emphasize their election-year theme of ridding the House of an alleged "culture of corruption," they also appeared reluctant to risk offending blacks who are among the party's most loyal supporters.

Democratic chairman
Howard Dean declined to side with either Pelosi or Jefferson. "We are going to stay out of this one," said a spokesman, Luis Miranda.

Rep. Ben Cardin, running in a senatorial primary in Maryland against Kweisi Mfume, the former head of the NAACP, also declined to comment. "I would want to talk to Bill first. I have not talked to Bill Jefferson," he said.

Mfume also sidestepped the issue. "He's going to sit this one out," said a spokesman, Mark Clack.

The day's events capped a 24-hour period in which the Democratic leadership took the first steps to strip Jefferson of his committee post and the CBC issued a statement noting he was entitled to a constitutional presumption of innocence.

Brendan Daly, Pelosi's spokesman, said the Democratic leader gave interviews to several black media outlets, sessions that were scheduled after she first urged Jefferson more than two weeks ago to step aside on his own.

Daly said the California Democrat responded to one interviewer's question by saying there was no double standard involved. "She made it very clear that she's serious about maintaining high ethical standards for Republicans and Democrats and therefore she's asked him to step aside," said Daly.

In private conversations, according to one official, Pelosi has emphasized that she established standards for ethical behavior among Democrats when she became party leader more than three years ago, and has not deviated from them.

Jefferson's allies counter that Democrats cannot point to either rules or precedents that require an unindicted lawmaker to give up a post.

Fresh details emerged about the Thursday night meeting in which senior Democrats took the first step to remove Jefferson from the House Ways and Means Committee, with jurisdiction over trade, taxes, Medicare and
Social Security.

Several officials said the vote was 33-7, and came after a relatively brief debate largely devoid of passion.

A meeting of the same group one night earlier was livelier, these officials said. They said Rep. Maxine Waters (news, bio, voting record) of California, in particular, had forcefully spoken out against the plan to discipline Jefferson. She declined to comment.

The officials who described the events did so on condition of anonymity, saying the meetings were private.

The Wednesday night session resulted in a decision to send a small delegation to Jefferson in one final attempt to persuade him to step aside on his own. Lewis as well as Reps. Charles Rangel of New York and John Tanner of Tennessee were appointed, since they are on the Ways and Means Committee. They got the same response Pelosi and others had received earlier.
 
Not even the power lust of the dems will get them to focus on gop failings, namely border and insane trade policies, like trading with CHina, a totalitarian nation that uses child and prison labor. What does it mean?
 
rtwngAvngr said:
Not even the power lust of the dems will get them to focus on gop failings, namely border and insane trade policies, like trading with CHina, a totalitarian nation that uses child and prison labor. What does it mean?

It means they too have been infiltrated by the NWO.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
Not even the power lust of the dems will get them to focus on gop failings, namely border and insane trade policies, like trading with CHina, a totalitarian nation that uses child and prison labor. What does it mean?
Only a few illegal factories use child labor.

Dude, WE use prison labor. Who do you think makes you license plate?
 
This makes me laugh. When Democrats are accused of corruption, our party takes it seriously, when Republicans are accused of corruption (see Tom DeLay) rules are changed to protect them.

acludem
 
Mr.Conley said:
Only a few illegal factories use child labor.

Dude, WE use prison labor. Who do you think makes you license plate?

Oh. Just a few?

We don't use prison labor for products of all kinds. Making license plates is not really a for profit market venture.

Why are you so pro- china? You suck.
 
The controversy has left some Democrats in an awkward position. Eager to emphasize their election-year theme of ridding the House of an alleged "culture of corruption," they also appeared reluctant to risk offending blacks who are among the party's most loyal supporters.

Well, you can't have it both ways, can you? Either you're against corruption or you're afraid to confront anyone who is for fear of being called "racist." I think that's the real corruption these days.
 
acludem said:
This makes me laugh. When Democrats are accused of corruption, our party takes it seriously, when Republicans are accused of corruption (see Tom DeLay) rules are changed to protect them.

acludem

Are we living on the same planet?
 
acludem said:
This makes me laugh. When Democrats are accused of corruption, our party takes it seriously, when Republicans are accused of corruption (see Tom DeLay) rules are changed to protect them.

acludem
Right. See William Jefferson and National Black Caucus. :rolleyes:
 
acludem said:
This makes me laugh. When Democrats are accused of corruption, our party takes it seriously, when Republicans are accused of corruption (see Tom DeLay) rules are changed to protect them.

acludem

:wtf:

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