Democracy @ Work...

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    Egypt beefs up troops in Sinai to quell Islamists - Yahoo! News

    Egypt massed troops and carried out arrests on Friday to quell Islamist militants in Sinai as President Mohamed Morsi visited an outpost where militants killed 16 soldiers, prompting the unprecedented crackdown.

    Egypt also temporarily reopened the Rafah border crossing into the Gaza Strip, which was closed after Sunday's ambush on the border guard outpost, to allow stranded Palestinians back into Gaza.

    The government and the military appeared determined to restore their grip on the lawless peninsula, but residents say their claims to have already killed 20 militants and captured six "terrorists" were mere propaganda.

    State news agency MENA said six "terrorist elements" were arrested during patrols in the North Sinai province and a security source branded them as Islamist hardliners suspected of belong to a jihadist group.

    But residents of the town of Sheikh Zuayyed said nine people, including two elderly men, were arrested in the morning from their homes, with all insisting the men were devout Muslims without links to Islamist extremists.
     
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    Ah! So, if it's "democratic" Murzi, who's offing jihadoons, it's "democracy @ work". If it's "non-democratic" Mubarak, who had been doing same - it's dictatorship @ work. Funny.
     
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    Excellent comment.
     
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    Anyone out there envision a bloodless "ARAB SPRING"?

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    We're looking at at least 30 years of Muslim on Muslim internal sectarian wars, civil wars, and regional wars. Most of the Middle Eastern countries you see today will not be the same, geographically speaking.
     
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    What about Palestine? What's the outlook and will they still be resisting?
     
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    There are other people such as the Kurds, who have been waiting for centuries to regain their homeland back. Palestinians never lost their homeland nor are they a people. I don't think Israel needs to or will give an inch more than it already has, which is all of Gaza. If the Palestinians play their cards right, they might gain some "autonomy" in the West Bank in the long run.
     
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    THE KURDS-----the people who could very well benefit from this ARAB SPRING thing------they MAY FINALLY BE ABLE TO SPRING OUT OF "ARAB" (for the record---kurds are somehow not considered to be ethnically "arab"----of people INDIGENOUS----to where they are-----in Iran, Iraq, Syria and Turkey------they seem to be the MOST INDIGENOUS and do retain ancient modes and customs Kurds kinda remind me of Iranians------they were invaded by arabs-----and still know that they are not arabs. Egyptians and Syrians and Moroccans somehow think that they got TRANSFORMED into arabs Thinkkng that one is an "ARAB" is just as confusing as a bunch of-----"arabs" who then decided to ALSO think that they are "palestinians"
     
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    Kurds have an autonomous self-governed area now in Iraq. When Syria collapses, and surely Iran will soon as well, the Kurds will move to regain the lands that belong to them. The Kurdistan part of Iraq has been the most stable, non violent, terrorism free, and prosperous areas of the new Iraq. It is a success story that is not mentioned enough. The key to their success I think is they did not allow the Islamisation of their culture to occur as much as others in the region, and the people and leaders are very secular.
     
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    All people of goodwill hope for the best for the kurds after centuries of arab oppression-------but-----uhm------the idea that the KURDS may someday feel a need to be allied to israel in order to fight off arab oppresson is a matter of concern for lots of jihadists which is why some of them are already working in the usual "THE JEWS DID IT" another concern is that some of those "kurds" are jews and -------you know how muslims feel when jews are hidden out somewhere I have first hand information that there have been KURD/JEWS in the turkish mountains and in the Iranian Mountains I do not know about Iraq and Syria. There used to be jews in Afghanistan ----but I was a bit surprised when someone decided that the USA went to AFGHANISTAN to "protect jews" -------sorry folks-----they are not there anymore
     

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