Democracy Should Start at the United Nations

[David2004]

If President Bush and his administration really wanted to promote freedom and democracy around the world they would start with the United Nations. Almost all people on the left, right and in the middle of the political spectrum believe that the United Nations needs major reform. The United Nations is a multilateral international institution that operates on a dictatorial platform in the UN Security Council. As long as any one of five permanent members of the UN Security Council has a single vote veto over any UN Resolutions it is a dictatorship.

For Secretary of State Rice to be supportive of people up rising in the former Soviet Union countries saying it is a good thing is a bit short sighted. During the Cold War almost everything the United States government had accused the Soviet Union of doing or being from the domino effect to the police state the United States has succeeded in doing. How would the United States government and people take to the actions of China and or Russia setting up military bases in the American’s hemisphere as the United States has done in Asia?

The United States foreign policies and military have over stepped its bounds costing the American taxpayers 100’s of billions of borrowed dollars. The United States National Debt is growing over 500 billion dollars a year for the foreseeable future with much of it being financed by foreign banks and governments. The United States being the biggest debtor nation in the world has undermined the development of the developing world as well as United State’s national security. Interest rates in the United States as well as the rest of world will rise because of the United States government growing demand for more borrowed money.

The manor in which many of the elected United States Federal officials operates borders along treason and incompetence that is undermining the securtity of the United States as well as the rest of the world. Without the United States addressing some of the domestic problems and policies at home. The United States will have to continue to defend and support policies that are not sustainable over time putting all of us in danger. Unless the United States wants to be the military police of the world we better strengthen the role the United Nations as well as other international non-profit NGO’s.

 

[5stringJeff]

Dollars to donuts David 2004 will not post again in this thread. :finger:

 

[GotZoom]

Dollars to donuts David 2004 will not post again in this thread. :finger:

No bet. I like to have a chance to win when I bet.

 

[IceEyes]

You were talking about alot of other thing than UN, but I'd like to adress the first part.

If President Bush and his administration really wanted to promote freedom and democracy around the world they would start with the United Nations. Almost all people on the left, right and in the middle of the political spectrum believe that the United Nations needs major reform. The United Nations is a multilateral international institution that operates on a dictatorial platform in the UN Security Council. As long as any one of five permanent members of the UN Security Council has a single vote veto over any UN Resolutions it is a dictatorship.
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First I would like to say that I want UN to be an effective tool for peace. I fully understand that members within UN might disagree with things done, - or not done, by the UN but that is the effect of compromising. The permanent members has from time to time set their own interests aside for the benefit of others, thus taken their responsability. The concept of UN and its intentions are good. But UN is an institution made up of its members and it need to change with the members. A lack of trust between UN and USA is a bad thing and the effort of restoring the trust lies mainly on UN. Reformations are being planned and contrary to your thinking it is not Bush who starts with UN, but UN that starts with itself. The only thing required by Bush in this case is that he is open to the reforms so that trust can be restored. I get the feeling that USA since 9/11 has dug where they stand, driving their heads down in the effort to get things done. UN totally failed to recognice this, wich showed in the lack of initiative. (Wich is almost lika a fail-safe valve, UN can't act when it is not certain)

The lack of trust between USA and UN didn't occur with the war in Iraq. Iraq was the outmost sign of how bad things worked. A crippled UN and totally diversive actions amongst countries in EU didn't help the situation either.

So for the future I think everyone just has to put what has happened behind. Think of UN as it has got no "history" in the way nations do. It has only got a future. And misunderstand me correct now, please?

This went long. Maybe all I wanted to say was that I think you are bit clouded on what needs to be done and was is being done. UN does not exist for its own sake, but for all of us.