Democracy in this country...

[WillowTree]

why does the right NOT WANT legal American voters to vote?

why do you want illegals to vote?

 

[The T]

“If once the people become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors, shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature, in spite of individual exceptions.”

Thomas Jefferson quotes

What we are seeing is the silent majority who were inattentive, righting that wrong and are becoming attentive again.
The socialist's in the Democratic party are having a fit about it.
Unfunded entitlements are being taken care of. Even the Mayor of San Francisco is addressing the issue of unfunded city worker's pensions.
That is why socialism does not work, it always goes bankrupt.

This^^ 2010 was the first volley. Wisconsin, the second.

 

[DiamondDave]

Democracy in this country is just sort of eye candy imho. Dig into it guys. We've got some weird democracy actually. And I'm now facing real problems in my family due to it. My grandpa, a Vietnam vet, rather an aged and sick man, was suspected as a non-citizen in that voter purging program here in Florida as you should know. That "awkward gaffe" (the officials put it so for us) hurt him so strongly that he was taken hospital with a sudden heart attack.
Don't you think voting is just transforming into some show unfolding before our eyes in this country reputed to be acme democracy in the world? What's up actually? The Republicans in Florida have been making the voter rolls up to their liking, wella.... in the proportions they need! And I'm dead sure now there was no gaffe relating my grandpa John. He's just a big fan of Democrats, which can't make Republicans happy. That's it! They just found the way to exempt both my grandpa and his like from the voting process! They did it rather cynically, I should say.
And how is it going to be next time, I wonder? Kicking some voters out of the country or putting them into prisons or what.....?

this thread is about cheating republicans

This thread was started on an unsubstantiated story that reeks of bullshit and was filled in every part with false premises...

But nice try...

 

[DiamondDave]

to the right on here telling the facts of what the founders really said is treason

"The best principles of our republic secure to all its citizens a perfect equality of rights." - Thomas Jefferson..

While Jefferson spoke of things like "representative democracy"... He recognized our country for what it is, a constitutional REPUBLIC...

You've been destroyed on this subject so many times, TDM.. just give it up

dear fucking idiot.

the only thing you have distroyed is your credibility


Every dictionary and encylopedia agrees with me

Really.. care to post your links about what types of democracy there are that does not include republic? Care for me to show you what constitution republic is again? Or do you just want me to link to the last thread where all of your bullshit was exposed and destroyed??

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...eks-their-own-enslavement-14.html#post5411034

C'mon TDM.. tell us again how a pure democracy is not a democracy

 

[Truthmatters]

they are NOT the same thing no matter how much you read partisan hackery tHAT PRETENDS THEY ARE.

 

[The T]

they are NOT the same thing no matter how much you read partisan hackery tHAT PRETENDS THEY ARE.

Then lay it out. That is what is being asked of you TdM.

 

[DiamondDave]

they are NOT the same thing no matter how much you read partisan hackery tHAT PRETENDS THEY ARE.

C'mon TDM.. we need some more laughs...

Just say it one more time... "a pure democracy is not democracy"

Oh... and to let you know.. I have the threads where your bullshit 'democracy' assertions are housed and subsequently dismantled... so that every time you try this again in another thread... we'll just show the previous dismantling instead of starting it all over again each time

 

[naturegirl]

they are NOT the same thing no matter how much you read partisan hackery tHAT PRETENDS THEY ARE.

Sorry Article IV, section 4 is part of the Constitution

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

Your "Representative democracy" is not.

 

[Truthmatters]

What Are the Different Types of Government? | eHow.com


Democracy



Democracy is rule by the people. A democracy can be direct, in which the people themselves participate in the decision-making process, or representative, in which the people vote for government officials to express their interests. India is the world's largest democracy.



Republic



A republic is a government in which the head of state is not a monarch and the people have some say in how they are governed, usually through representatives. Democracy and republic are often used interchangeably. France is a republic.



Read more: What Are the Different Types of Government? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/facts_5294608_different-types-government.html#ixzz1xDeQ6DyI

 

[Truthmatters]

A pure democracy is a type of democracy.

a Republic is also a type of democracy.


pretending the words have no real definition is a liars tact

 

[Truthmatters]

We are a democracy NOT a pure democracy.


We are a represntative democracy just like Jefferson said

 

[peach174]

Quit trying to act smart on this with a bunch of Beck-shit, a republic is nothing more than a representative form of government that sometimes only represents one view, that the people need to be led and are too stupid to know what's best for the country. When this happens, when democracy is systematically repressed, it means the people have no voice and tyranny has no obstacle. This hatred of democracy itself is a new development on the American landscape and the same old reactionary elements seem to hate it as happened in other countries that slid into tyranny without a fight.

You need to go back to school and actually learn about government, what certain types of government are, and what our government was set up to be

I never heard this lie that all government tyranny is a leftist phenomena until Beck started selling it on his show and a bunch of dopes bought it cheap. If you heard it from Beck it's twisted bullshit and I am sick of the uninformed stating it as the gospel. A republic that does not respect and protect democracy is on the road tyranny no matter what kind of high sounding rationales they use to concentrate power into a single party or group of people.

Wrong, it's been around for thirty years. Remember Regan? Government is the problem.
What do you think Ross Perot was all about?
He got the largest vote ever, running as an independent.
What you are seeing is the collapse of Social Democracy, of which we should have never become.
What you are seeing beginning to happen, is a Representative Republic for all not just the few.

 

[DiamondDave]

What Are the Different Types of Government? | eHow.com

Ooooooo... a blurb on eHow.... LOL

Republic


And since you like sites like wiki and ehow
Constitutional republic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and from your little wiki...
"Democracy is often confused with the republic form of government." (Kept that one on hand after you amazingly stopped using your wiki definition of democracy)

And a little education
An Important Distinction: Democracy versus Republic

Our republic is not a democracy.. as we are a nation of laws and not votes.. where a constitution limits both the power and scope of government but also protects from the tyranny of the democracy... where the constitution also lays out differing ways to have the leaders and representatives selected so that it is not just democratic popular vote that chooses each leader

Section 4 - Republican government

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...eks-their-own-enslavement-13.html#post5410982

Feel free to keep your crap up and be bitch slapped again

 

[DiamondDave]

We are a democracy NOT a pure democracy.


We are a represntative democracy just like Jefferson said

No, bitch.... you have been shown time and time again... he spoke of representative democracy and called out country exactly what it is, a REPUBLIC

 

[peach174]

We are a democracy NOT a pure democracy.


We are a represntative democracy just like Jefferson said

No matter how many times he said Our Republic eh?

 

[saveliberty]

A pure democracy is a type of democracy.

a Republic is also a type of democracy.


pretending the words have no real definition is a liars tact

I've mentioned that a couple of times now. Too bad you ignore it.

 

[regent]

they are NOT the same thing no matter how much you read partisan hackery tHAT PRETENDS THEY ARE.

Sorry Article IV, section 4 is part of the Constitution

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

Your "Representative democracy" is not.

Ever wonder what the framers had in mind when they wrote that?

 

[occupied]

You need to go back to school and actually learn about government, what certain types of government are, and what our government was set up to be

I never heard this lie that all government tyranny is a leftist phenomena until Beck started selling it on his show and a bunch of dopes bought it cheap. If you heard it from Beck it's twisted bullshit and I am sick of the uninformed stating it as the gospel. A republic that does not respect and protect democracy is on the road tyranny no matter what kind of high sounding rationales they use to concentrate power into a single party or group of people.

Wrong, it's been around for thirty years. Remember Regan? Government is the problem.
What do you think Ross Perot was all about?
He got the largest vote ever, running as an independent.
What you are seeing is the collapse of Social Democracy, of which we should have never become.
What you are seeing beginning to happen, is a Representative Republic for all not just the few.

What we are seeing is power being increasingly concentrated into the hands of ever fewer people who would be overjoyed if people such as myself never had a voice in our government again and has no interest in protecting a single vote that might be cast against them. Call it what you like, your grand republic is becoming nothing more than a lousy plutocracy to the cheers of people who say they love freedom but want a single monolithic ruling party in this country.

 

[DiamondDave]

I never heard this lie that all government tyranny is a leftist phenomena until Beck started selling it on his show and a bunch of dopes bought it cheap. If you heard it from Beck it's twisted bullshit and I am sick of the uninformed stating it as the gospel. A republic that does not respect and protect democracy is on the road tyranny no matter what kind of high sounding rationales they use to concentrate power into a single party or group of people.

Wrong, it's been around for thirty years. Remember Regan? Government is the problem.
What do you think Ross Perot was all about?
He got the largest vote ever, running as an independent.
What you are seeing is the collapse of Social Democracy, of which we should have never become.
What you are seeing beginning to happen, is a Representative Republic for all not just the few.

What we are seeing is power being increasingly concentrated into the hands of ever fewer people who would be overjoyed if people such as myself never had a voice in our government again and has no interest in protecting a single vote that might be cast against them. Call it what you like, your grand republic is becoming nothing more than a lousy plutocracy to the cheers of people who say they love freedom but want a single monolithic ruling party in this country.

Power (and the limiting thereof) is strictly defined in the constitution... it has not changed 1 iota

 

[occupied]

Wrong, it's been around for thirty years. Remember Regan? Government is the problem.
What do you think Ross Perot was all about?
He got the largest vote ever, running as an independent.
What you are seeing is the collapse of Social Democracy, of which we should have never become.
What you are seeing beginning to happen, is a Representative Republic for all not just the few.

What we are seeing is power being increasingly concentrated into the hands of ever fewer people who would be overjoyed if people such as myself never had a voice in our government again and has no interest in protecting a single vote that might be cast against them. Call it what you like, your grand republic is becoming nothing more than a lousy plutocracy to the cheers of people who say they love freedom but want a single monolithic ruling party in this country.

Power (and the limiting thereof) is strictly defined in the constitution... it has not changed 1 iota

The thing is, no conservative is about to give away power if they have it in their frightened greedy hands. None of them have proven that one wrong yet.