Delivering The Illegal Vote

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    Public Unions work against ID checks...

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ieijtQ6GAE]Former Soviet Citizen Challenges Enablers of Voter Fraud - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    other than maybe your 86 year old grandmother.....what law-abiding citizen would NOT have an ID...?
     
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    But if you're going in to the LBJ Library in Texas to listen to Eric Holder tell you why voter ID laws are discriminatory, you must present a photo ID. Lying forksuckers.
     
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    Fear and Loathing in Prime Time: Immigration Myths and Cable News

    "As for the larger claim of voter fraud made by Dobbs and others, study after study has shown that voter fraud is an exceedingly rare occurrence. Michael Waldman and Justin Levitt of the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University School of Law state that proven voter fraud "happens about as often as death by lightning strike."71 According to a study of the issue by Lorraine C. Minnite, a professor at Barnard College in Columbia University, only 24 people were convicted of or pleaded guilty to federal voter fraud charges between 2002 and 2005.72 Another study by the nonpartisan research institute Demos concluded, "Available evidence suggests that the incidence of election fraud is minimal across the 50 U.S. states and rarely affects election outcomes."73 Moreover, academics and historians say that the objective of most voter fraud claims throughout U.S. history has been the disenfranchisement of certain voting blocs in the U.S. Minnite writes, "Fraud allegations today typically point the finger at those belonging to the same categories of voters accused of fraud in the past -- the marginalized and formerly disenfranchised, urban dwellers, immigrants, blacks, and lower status voters. These populations are mostly found among those still struggling for full inclusion in American life."74

    The same article, which is quite long and detailed, deals with a lot of other myths about immigrants, illegal and otherwise. Worth reading, for those of you who are not wholly addicted to a non-fact-based approach to politics.
     
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    the Bush five year study found no fraud worth worrying about.

    Why does the right continuesly lie about that?
     
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    you libtards need to get your stories straight.

    You say there is no voter fraud... TM says there is no voter fraud, and so no Voter ID law is needed... then TM says there is massive voter fraud.

    I mean really people... can't you find one single lie and stick with it?
     
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    But YOU said there WAS no massive voter fraud, and that since there WAS no massive voter fraud, we do not need voter ID laws.
    Were you lying when you claimed there was no massive voter fraud?
     
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    The point is, without ID laws, how do you know how much fraud there is?
    If I say I'm John Smith and John Smith's name is on the list, I get to vote. There is no way to tell there was fraud unless the real John Smith shows up to find he has already voted. OK there was fraud, but since there is no way of finding who voted in his place, nor way of telling how the imposter voted, the case isn't prosecuted.
    No prosecution, no fraud.
     
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