Deism theory

Discussion in 'Religion and Ethics' started by manifold, Aug 13, 2008.

  1. manifold
    Offline

    manifold Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2008
    Messages:
    48,705
    Thanks Received:
    7,230
    Trophy Points:
    1,830
    Location:
    your dreams
    Ratings:
    +20,754
    I submit that early practictioners of Deism were actually atheists that wanted to skip out on tithing and church going without getting burned at the stake.

    "Sure Mathias, I believe in God, really, I do. I just think he doesn't interfere with the physical world and would prefer I not praise him publicly or send him cash."
     
  2. manifold
    Offline

    manifold Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2008
    Messages:
    48,705
    Thanks Received:
    7,230
    Trophy Points:
    1,830
    Location:
    your dreams
    Ratings:
    +20,754
    Deism and Atheism

    by Peter Murphy

    The question that arises about nature is: is it a creation, eternal to nature, or an accident within nature. The Deist will maintain that it is a creation, but Deists will differ as to degree of involvement on the part of the Creator in the process. The atheist will counter that it is either eternal, or accidental. The final resolution of this problem will eventually be up to science to settle.

    To begin, let us look at nature as an ever changing and shifting painting. Science attempts to understand what the paint and canvass is composed of, the relationship of the individual paints, and the brushstrokes that are involved in the final product. But, what about the painter? If one admits that nature is similar to a painting, than it is not too far a leap to conclude that a painter exists, or at least existed at one time.

    The atheist continually resorts to the logical fallacy known as argumentum ad verecundiam (appeal to modesty) when dealing with Deists or even theists. The appeal here is to science as an authority which cannot be challenged. Unfortunately, this appeal is plagued by its own problems.

    First of all, science makes no claims about God one way or another, so it is not the scientists who are for the most part claiming God does not exist on the grounds that there is a lack of evidence, but the scientific layman asserting it.

    link:

    Atheism's Weakness
     
  3. manifold
    Offline

    manifold Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2008
    Messages:
    48,705
    Thanks Received:
    7,230
    Trophy Points:
    1,830
    Location:
    your dreams
    Ratings:
    +20,754
    :rofl:

    At the bottom of the page there is a link that says "click here to read an atheist's rebuttal" ...page not found! :rofl:
     
  4. LOki
    Offline

    LOki The Yaweh of Mischief

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2006
    Messages:
    4,020
    Thanks Received:
    350
    Trophy Points:
    85
    Ratings:
    +585
    Omg! It's Full Of Lol!
     
  5. Ravi
    Offline

    Ravi Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2008
    Messages:
    81,332
    Thanks Received:
    12,695
    Trophy Points:
    2,205
    Location:
    Hating Hatters
    Ratings:
    +29,778
    Where do you find this drivel? Who ever wrote it is employ all kinds of fallacies about scientists and atheists....the author seems familiar.

    :eusa_eh:
     
  6. editec
    Offline

    editec Mr. Forgot-it-All

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2008
    Messages:
    41,427
    Thanks Received:
    5,598
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Maine
    Ratings:
    +5,617
    I'm on the edge of my seat waiting to hear their final conclusion, too.

    Do you think they'll let us know sometime this weekend?
     
  7. manifold
    Offline

    manifold Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2008
    Messages:
    48,705
    Thanks Received:
    7,230
    Trophy Points:
    1,830
    Location:
    your dreams
    Ratings:
    +20,754
    duh!?! Why, on the internet of course. :cuckoo:
     
  8. redphish
    Offline

    redphish Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2008
    Messages:
    8
    Thanks Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Location:
    Palm Coast, FL
    Ratings:
    +0
    In a nutshell, most Deists believe in a creative force or influence in the development of the nature of our existence. We just don't believe that any religions that people have created describe the nature of this force.

    You will find a very good description of the history of Deism at deism.com (I couldn't post a direct link yet.)
     

Share This Page