Define liberals and conservatives

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    Considering how much vitriol gets thrown around on this board towards these two words and labels, I thought it would be fascinating to hear peoples' definitions for both words. Please explain to the board what your perception of a liberal and a conservative is.
     
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    Cons love America...period
    Libs love America of their dreams and only if THEY control it

    Basically it.
     
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    Liberal has two definitions:
    The false =
    Commie pinko who actually fears true liberalism most of all.
    Hates true liberals because false liberals believe in the superiority of the elitist.

    The True =
    Person who believes in limited-to-no-government. Believes that humans are inherently good.

    Conservative = a commie-pinko tool who will believe anything faux news tells them.
    Hates true liberals because Limbaugh and the rich tells them to.
     
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    ...you know, I was going to post something moderately witty and negative about both sides, but the truth is...


    They're both the same thing.
     
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    Regressives (brainwashed these days) vs progessives...ie deluded vs intelligentsia...see sig.
     
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    Wow.

    Just...wow.

    I would love to be able to see who you retards really are. I don't mean your names...I'd like to see your high school report cards, and your yearly income...I'd like to see who you live with, in what sort of dwelling, and what sort of clothes you wear.

    Because I'm pretty sure you look like this:

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    As one can plainly see, the definition for both words does NOT describe either the Democratic nor the Republican party.


    Neither party is either conservative or liberal.
     
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    It's whatever people label me, I don't label myself.
    I don't care.
     
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    A conservative believes that if a car gets 25 miler per gallon it puts out less pollution than a liberals car that only gets 16 miles per gallon with a bunch of epa stuff on it.
     
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    Conservative

    A conservative is someone who rises above his personal self-interest and promotes moral and economic values to all. A conservative is willing to learn and advocate the insights of economics and the logic of the Bible for the benefit of all.

    More formally, a conservative typically adheres to principles of personal responsibility, moral values, and limited government, agreeing with George Washington's Farewell Address that "religion and morality are indispensable supports" to political prosperity.

    Former President Ronald Reagan said, "The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom."

    Specifically, conservatives seek or support:

    * Limited government and balanced budgets
    * Capitalism and free markets
    * Classroom prayer
    * Respect for human life and prohibition of abortion
    * Abstinence education
    * Traditional marriage, not same-sex marriage
    * The concept of retribution for crimes, including the death penalty for heinous murders proven beyond a reasonable doubt
    * Family values, including traditional relationships and division of labor within the household
    * Respect for differences between men and women, boys and girls
    * Laws against pornography
    * The Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms
    * Economic allocative efficiency (as opposed to popular equity)
    * Parental control of education (parental rights)
    * Private medical care and retirement plans
    * Canceling failed social support programs
    * No world government
    * Enforcement of current laws regarding immigration
    * Respect for our military ... past and present
    * Rejection of junk science such as evolution and global warming
    * Minimal taxation
    * Federalism (Separation of powers among the National, State and Local governments)
    * Favoring states' rights over federal power, while accepting the Constitutional role of the federal government
    * A strong national defense
    * An Originalist interpretation of the Constitution
    * A dedication to the truth, and an ability to seek it

    Liberal

    A liberal is someone who favors censorship of Christianity plus increased government spending and power, as in ObamaCare. Increasingly, liberals side with the homosexual agenda, including supporting homosexual "marriage". Many liberals favor a welfare state where people receive endless entitlements without working. Liberals are often anti-Christian, or otherwise disagree with moral or social principles held by many American Christians. The liberal ideology has worsened over the years and degenerated into economically delusional views and intolerant ideology. Some liberals simply support, in knee-jerk fashion, the opposite of conservative principles without having any meaningful values of their own.

    Polling data has consistently shown that a decreasingly large percentage of Americans identify as conservative, rather than as liberal, currently by 38% to 21%. Younger people and those with higher levels of education are more likely to identify as liberal.

    The decline in liberal principles can be illustrated by how Franklin Delano Roosevelt opposed and condemned public sector unions, stating that the idea of collective bargaining can't be transferred from the private to the public sector, as that would result in the government being unable to carry out its duties. Yet today, decades later, Democrats and liberals are in lock-step with public sector unions, as they "donate" money to the reelection campaign in exchange for more taxpayer money in their wallets and fluffed up pensions.

    A liberal generally supports many of the following political positions and practices:

    * Spending money on government programs (the significant economic problems in the Eurozone due to government debt will no doubt increasingly discredit this aspect of liberal ideology and make things more difficult for advocates of liberal economic ideologies)
    * Government's ability to solve economic problems
    * The belief that terrorism is not a huge threat, and that the main reason for Muslim extremists' hostility towards America is because of bad foreign policy
    * Taxpayer-funded and/or legalized abortion
    * Censorship of teacher-led prayer in classrooms and school/state-sponsored religious events
    * Support for gun control
    * Affirmative action
    * Opposition to government regulation or restriction of obscenity, pornography and violence in video games as a First Amendment right
    * Government-funded medical care, such as ObamaCare
    * Taxpayer funded and government controlled public education
    * Insisting that men and women be placed in the same jobs in the military
    * Legalized same-sex marriage and homosexual adoption
    * Tax and spend
    * Support for economic sector regulations
    * Support and spreading of political correctness
    * Support of non-syndicalist labor unions
    * Encouraging promiscuity through sexual education (the teaching of safe sex) rather than teaching abstinence from premarital sex
    * A "living Constitution" that is reinterpreted as liberals prefer, rather than how it is thought to have been intended
    * Government programs to rehabilitate criminals
    * Abolition of the death penalty
    * Environmentalism
    * Globalism
    * Support for the constitutionally mandated separation of church and state
    * Opposition to full private property rights
    * Reinstating the Fairness Doctrine
    * In 2005, it was reported by CBS News that liberals were most likely supporters of the theory of evolution
    * Opposition to domestic wire-tapping as authorized in the Patriot Act
    * Opposition of the War on Terrorism
    * Withholds support to the War on Terrorism
    * Tolerance of different ideas and lifestyles (just as long as those with different ideas and lifestyles identify themselves as liberal or to the left of the political spectrum)
    * Do not support a laissez-faire capitalist economy and support regulation of business

    Liberals currently use two clauses to try and expand their power: the Commerce Clause and the General Welfare Clause. The general welfare clause mentions "promoting the general welfare". This to a liberal means taxing the rich at increased rates and redistributing that money. The commerce clause, on the other hand, says that Congress has the power to regulate trade with foreign nations, between the states and with the indian tribes. Since the days of FDR this clause has been interpreted very loosely and has resulted in the federal government expanding its power. The latest example is The Affordable Care Act (ACA), better known as ObamaCare. In the ACA, the liberals justify the individual mandate by saying it regulates commerce between the states.

    Current dictionaries describe the liberal ideology by pretending that a liberal is "a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties" or "a person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets," or "open-minded or tolerant, especially free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc." or "favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, especially as guaranteed by law and secured by government protection of civil liberties.

    liberal

    Open-minded, tolerant. Just as long as one's ideology resembles or closely resembles theirs. Additionally, they are open-minded and tolerant to the point of absurd. If you want to stick your schtick in a monkey? Cool. If you want to throw shit through an airplane's propeller blades and call it art? Cool. And, their open-mindedness and tolerance gets more and more loose as each decade passes. Soon, at this rate, one might surmise that child molestation will be a-okay with them within the next decade or two and, if you want to whip your chubby out and do some random broad right in the middle of a restaurant, for instance, they'll cheer you on. In the not too distant future, if leftist policies become rampant, one may be able to -- like a dog -- just jump some random broad walking down the street of whom one wants to have sex with and go to town.

    Generous. With other peoples' money, things, etc.

    Not bound by tradition, rules, laws, manners, etc., etc., etc.

    Supports the killing of an unborn child, advocates the saving of Jeffrey Dahmer, Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, etc., etc., etc.

    Blames America first.

    Can read a book and retain information long enough to pass a test in order to graduate high school or college but, are really quite stupid and have the common sense of a bucket of shit.

    Revise history to suit their needs by instituting linguistic gymnastics to twist logic and turn around an event 360 degrees from what it actually was.

    Drug addled malcontents.

    Can't fight their own battles and are generally cowards on their own unless they're with a group of their conservative friends, in which case, they will open their big mouths and mouth off and start a fight and, then, run away and let their conservative friends fight the fight for them of which they started. And, then, in the absence of their conservative friends, will strut around like a world-class heavyweight champ, proclaiming he/she kicked the asses of those he/she was mouthing off to and allege his/her conservative friends just stood and watched or, even ran away.

    Think spit balls, protest signs, bellicose loud yelling and other such [SIZE=4]non-[SIZE=4]harmful activity is intimidating.

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