DEFENSIVE MEDICINE is what causes costs to always SOAR!

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    yep...here is how it works

    1-lawyers file 100 frivolous malpractice suits and lose all 100 but still get paid for everyone...

    2-doctors fear getting sued so they order 50 tests when the patient may need none bc of that one in a million rare condition/last lawsuit lost crap

    3-the patients bill is way more than it should be so the insurance companies refuse to pay it...
    they also have a huge scam where they have 'code lingo' that if the doctor doesnt write the latest code lingo on the chart they are able to justify not paying the bill...the problem is the code lingo is always changing so the doctors can never keep up with it...

    4-insurance companies pass the buck i.e. always increasing premiums


    so basically doctors and nurses have a SYMBIOTIC relationship with patients whereas the
    attorneys and insurance companies have a PARASITIC relationship with patients..

    The real question is why do the lawyers/insurance companies even have at seat at the healtcare table when all they do is act as leeches sucking the life out of patients?

    The only solution is removing the leeches from the equation via the 'single payer option' WITH a NO LAWSUIT clause!
     
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    Single payer does not remove the leaches, it replaces the leaches of the insurance company (one that can be sued, regulated, closed down, fired or otherwise replaced with another) with the leeches of the government. I cannot fathom how you want the same people that control the laws and regulations to also be the people that control the cash. I like to have those entities seperate to cover a little of the checks and balances. Once we go to a single payer system, the people that have the cash and deny paying a procedure will have the end all say and there will be NOTHING you can do about it. That is not a place I want to be.
     
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    No lawsuit clause? That seems misguided. Doctors should be held accountable for their actions if they do actually meet the "4 D's" criteria: Dereliction of a Duty Directly causing Damages. The problem is that our legal system does not allow for precedence to automatically throw out frivolous lawsuits. There ought to be a running list of situations that people CANNOT sue over. Alternately, a loser-pays system would dscourage frivolous lawsuits by making the patient pay the legal fees if they lose their case.
     
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    Yeah, that is such an awful plan I don't even know where to take it as some sort of sarcastic post or not. A single payer plan with no suits reminds me of the story I heard just yesterday where Safeway gave this pregnant woman another woman's prescription by mistake;the damn morning after abortion pill! Her baby may now die or be severely deformed so to not allow suits or limiting them in the "Land of the Free" has to be one of the more bone headed ideas I have heard;mainly members of the GOP;yap about.

    What drives costs up is basically other people paying the tab, get government and employers out of the equation and I will bet my front row seat in Hell that you'd see prices stabalize.
     
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    Why wouldn't the Dem's allow torte reform? Because they thought that it would not make much of a difference, even though the Doctor's were telling them that it would be a very big difference. The Doctor's are still saying this in the newest hearings.
     
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    No suit clause is not tort reform.
     
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    Truth be told it WON'T make much of a difference as far as money goes. It's a very small minority of what drives up cost, and doesn't address many of the big issues. Nonetheless, it would be helpful for doctors, which is why docs want it.
     
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    I'm not the one that said No Lawsuit clause, BenMarble said it. You are quoting the wrong person. :confused:
     
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    When is the patient going to start just saying NO to extensive testing? I have. I got sick of having blood work taken every time I went in for an ear infection or some other minor complaint. The labs who do those tests charge way more than Medicare covers, and they don't care. Somehow I can't feel sorry for them. The costs of health care are ridiculously high in this country for the same services in other countries.

    By the way, I've never known a doctor who drove a used Chevy, lived in a modest home, or couldn't afford to send the kids to expensive colleges. If after all his schooling he believes he deserves to live high off the hog, then I think he also has a responsibility to make damned sure he doesn't make medical mistakes which drive up malpractice insurance.
     
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    Apologies, did not mean to misconstrue your point. Just making a statement as to the OP's version of tort reform.

    Honestly, the effect of tort reform is larger than at first glance though. There is an issue of not just the insurance and lawsuit costs but also the costs of practices that are not needed for particular procedures. The bigger issue though is the out and out costs for procedures in general. Does anyone here have any idea what an MRI costs if you go in and pay cash. I'll give you a chance to guess but I'll be that the answer will be very surprising.
     

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