Deep Water Drilling Ban Cost 23,000 Jobs

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    I think this generally displays the cluelessness of the administration.

    Administration Foresaw 23,000 Lost Jobs from Drilling Ban - WSJ.com

    One might understand a moratorium during an economic boom, but shutting down an industry during one of the worst economic recessions is dumb.

    I get that the administration wants to avoid another disaster but the odds of another such mishap are extremely small, unless they had some tangible evidence that another explosion was highly probable. But I haven't seen that. The costs of shutting down the industry relative to the probability of another disaster isn't worth it, given that it is so difficult to get a job right now.
     
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    I can see mebbe forcing inspections and reevaluations of safety plans. But I wonder how much we can drag down the Gulf and its people? At the very least, those affected should be permitted to recover in full from BP.
     
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    That's a tough one. If this were the product of a meteorite falling out of the sky, a ban would probably be overkill. If, however, it's suspected that the accident is a product of an organizational culture of dangerous corner-cutting and risk-taking then, depending on how bad it's gotten, there may well be an elevated risk of more of these "accidents" happening in the near future. And while 23,000 jobs is nothing to sneeze at, the fallout of another disaster could be much higher than that. For example, here are the estimates of this spill on just one state:

    Now, would a second oil spill just hit the same stores, restaurants, and other businesses that are already closing up in the wake of this one, limiting the additional fallout? Maybe, I don't know. But it seems that if you have reason to believe there's a decent chance that a corrupt culture (in government and in the private sector) has significantly raised the risks of this happening again and potentially killing >100,000 jobs, a ban could be justified. I'd like to hear more about the government's risk assessment on this one.
     
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    This administration doesn't care how they get their agenda through, or who gets fucked, as long as they get the control they're after.

    I don't know what's worse, the people pulling this shit off, or the silly fuckers who refuse to open their eyes and see what's going on around them?
     
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    Obviously, it's overkill. A moratorium on all BP drill-heads, I'd understand. A moratorium on all drillheads at a certain depth, I'd understand. Hell, I'd even understand a moratorium on all new drillheads; no matter what the elevation, no matter what the company, no matter what the type of drilling is taking place.

    What I don't understand is a moratorium on everything. That makes no sense.
     
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    The telling pattern is that at first the Obama Administration hyped that the story that the Oil Spill was the Worst Environmental Disaster Ever...using this hype as a pretext to put a moratorium on drilling in place.

    Now, rigs are moving out of the Gulf, jobs are destroyed, and the PR impact has contributed to the decline in The One's approval levels. How convenient that they are now declaring that the oil is 75% gone. Of course, it's too late to get the rigs that are leaving / have left back.
     
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    True:

    On the one hand, we could all imagine the ramifications of yet ANOTHER blow-out in the gulf before 2012.

    On the other, there is no PERMANENT ban. In fact, leases are being granted, and the target for resuming drilling is November, a scant 7 months after the TransOcean blowout, and only 3 months after the well will have been shutoff.

    Frankly, although I think the 23,000 jobs the Administration believe are "lost" are 1. On the Optimistic End; 2. Will be re-hired before year's end.

    Finally, I don't tink there's any doubt that "the accident is a product of an organizational culture of dangerous corner-cutting and risk-taking." The DOI has completely renamed and reorganized the MMS (try to find their site on the internets), and the new Bureau of Ocean Energy, Ecology, and Whatnot is reviewing their licensing requirements.
     
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    Come on, get real. Those on the right don't give a "flying fuck" about American jobs. If they don't care about the Middle Class, don't care to see the middle class insured, even telling the unemployed to "sober up and go get a job". If the right supports policies that move American jobs overseas, then why, suddenly, do they CARE about American jobs?

    The short answer, "They don't". What they care about is "corporate profits". Their corporate masters have told them to make this an issue. Maybe as part of their "apology" to BP, that is just what they are doing.

    "Oh BP, we are so, so sorry that the Democratic leadership asked you to clean up your mess. How dare they. Don't worry. When Republicans take over the house and senate, we will make sure that you get off scot free. In fact, we will move the entire cost of the clean up to the middle class and we PROMISE to give you another 30 billion in "tax breaks"."
     
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    Yes its all a Right Wing conspiracy by Republicans......<<<<YAWN>>>>......could you possibly ever make a point without being a partisan robot?
     
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    How many jobs did the spill kill?

    This accident PROOVES there is something wrong with the inspection system and who knows how many of the other rigs are just as vulnerable.

    No one likes the jobs put on hold but lets remember 11 people DIED in this accident.

    You should not have to DIE for a job.
     

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