Decision of the Keystone pipe line from EPA is no

[kwc57]

You mean like how he blocked high-speed rail projects?

Oh, wait...

So the fact that this pipeline won't cost Americans one red cent is completely lost on you?

No, but from what I've read, the potential environmental risk isn't worth the relatively small amount of jobs it's supposed to generate.

You are aware that the nation is crisscrossed with existing pipelines aren't you? Ever see one? No, they are buried deep underground. Ever seen environmental damage from one? Doubtful. Environmental risk is a canard.

 

[Skull Pilot]

No, but from what I've read, the potential environmental risk isn't worth the relatively small amount of jobs it's supposed to generate.

Potential risk.

What a mealy mouthed cop out.

Say what you will, wingut, but the fact still remains that there were also potential jobs with high-speed rail and a few asshole GOP governors shot it down.

Maybe because those jobs would cost taxpayers a lot of money where the pipeline won't cost taxpayers one red cent and it will actually increase tax revenues

 

[ScreamingEagle]

No, but from what I've read, the potential environmental risk isn't worth the relatively small amount of jobs it's supposed to generate.

Potential risk.

What a mealy mouthed cop out.

Say what you will, wingut, but the fact still remains that there were also potential jobs with high-speed rail and a few asshole GOP governors shot it down.

Because the GOP governors are smart enough to realize what an expensive boondoggle high-speed rail would be......the cost of maintaining the lines would be exorbitant and those costs would be laid right on the states....BO does not know how to create anything that is cost effective....

 

[Full-Auto]

Potential risk.

What a mealy mouthed cop out.

Say what you will, wingut, but the fact still remains that there were also potential jobs with high-speed rail and a few asshole GOP governors shot it down.

Because the GOP governors are smart enough to realize what an expensive boondoggle high-speed rail would be......the cost of maintaining the lines would be exorbitant and those costs would be laid right on the states....BO does not know how to create anything that is cost effective....

Here in Seattle we installed some High speed rail.............. 20 miles worth at a cost of a cool billion. Now we can zoom to the airport.

 

[WillowTree]

Say what you will, wingut, but the fact still remains that there were also potential jobs with high-speed rail and a few asshole GOP governors shot it down.

Because the GOP governors are smart enough to realize what an expensive boondoggle high-speed rail would be......the cost of maintaining the lines would be exorbitant and those costs would be laid right on the states....BO does not know how to create anything that is cost effective....

Here in Seattle we installed some High speed rail.............. 20 miles worth at a cost of a cool billion. Now we can zoom to the airport.

And wait ten hours for yer flight?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Say what you will, wingut, but the fact still remains that there were also potential jobs with high-speed rail and a few asshole GOP governors shot it down.

Because the GOP governors are smart enough to realize what an expensive boondoggle high-speed rail would be......the cost of maintaining the lines would be exorbitant and those costs would be laid right on the states....BO does not know how to create anything that is cost effective....

Here in Seattle we installed some High speed rail.............. 20 miles worth at a cost of a cool billion. Now we can zoom to the airport.

And it will never ever recoup that billion will it?

 

[The T]

Potential risk.

What a mealy mouthed cop out.

Say what you will, wingut, but the fact still remains that there were also potential jobs with high-speed rail and a few asshole GOP governors shot it down.

Because the GOP governors are smart enough to realize what an expensive boondoggle high-speed rail would be......the cost of maintaining the lines would be exorbitant and those costs would be laid right on the states....BO does not know how to create anything that is cost effective....

Florida's Governor told the FEDS infactically NO.

I concur with his decision.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Say what you will, wingut, but the fact still remains that there were also potential jobs with high-speed rail and a few asshole GOP governors shot it down.

Because the GOP governors are smart enough to realize what an expensive boondoggle high-speed rail would be......the cost of maintaining the lines would be exorbitant and those costs would be laid right on the states....BO does not know how to create anything that is cost effective....

Here in Seattle we installed some High speed rail.............. 20 miles worth at a cost of a cool billion. Now we can zoom to the airport.

Seattle's expensive new rail system is NOT "high-speed rail"......it's only a light rail system.....much like what many other cities already have...

 

[Toro]

Why should we continue to subsidize a dying technology?

Fossil fuels receive 5 times the government subsidies that solar and wind do.

Here's some hints.
That oil will STILL be there later on and the methods for extracting it safely will only get better and the price can only go up. So what's your hurry to get it out now?

No it won't. The Canadians will just sell it to the Chinese.

Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb decision.

 

[Oldstyle]

First, the myth of jobs. A few months ago, Fox News was claiming the pipeline would create 250,000 new jobs. Sounds good – except those numbers were based on a single study that has been widely discredited. According to the Cornell Labor Institute, the real number of permanent jobs created by the pipeline is likely to be about ... 50. If you factor in the environmental damages and higher oil prices the pipeline will cause, the project might even lead to a net loss of jobs.


Read more: Keystone XL: The Pipeline That Won't Die | Jeff Goodell | Rolling Stone

So that's 50 more permanent jobs than we netted from Solyndra, Boo...and the best thing is that it isn't going to cost the taxpayer millions. I note that Rollingstone only wants to talk about "permanent" jobs. How may jobs would be created while the pipeline is actually being built? I'm guessing it's substantially more than 50. Care to take me up on that?

The added jobs are a plus but what makes this pipeline a no brainer is that it's one more source of oil flowing into the US that DOESN'T come from a potential trouble spot...IE...the MiddleEast or Hugo Chavez. If things blow up internationally we'll be kicking ourselves for not giving ourselves more options. Of course since Barry and his progressive pals want to set the price of oil somewhere in the $6.00 a gallon range...he's OK with the huge price spikes we'd be seeing.

After incessant coverage of the failed solar panel maker Solyndra, major TV and print news outlets are now ignoring a report concluding that “the focus on Solyndra is not proportional to its impact.” The Bloomberg Government analysis of the Department of Energy’s 1705 loan guarantee program found that 87 percent of the portfolio is low-risk and that even if all 10 of the higher risk projects defaulted, we’d still have nearly half a billion dollars left in the fund set aside by Congress to cover losses.

Anything that is going to raise the price of gasoline here I am against.

Media Ignore Bloomberg Report Undermining Their Solyndra Hype: "The Focus on Solyndra Is Not Proportional to Its Impact" | ThinkProgress

A Think Progress article saying that all the tax money lost on Solyndra isn't a big deal? That's your response? Come on Boo...why even waste time posting that?

My point is that the pipeline project that Obama just refused to OK would have created thousands of jobs at zero cost to the American taxpayer...something which is in STARK contrast to the hundreds of millions of our tax dollars spent on Solyndra with a result of jobs being lost. Why is this Administration so determined to do stupid things?

 

[The T]

So that's 50 more permanent jobs than we netted from Solyndra, Boo...and the best thing is that it isn't going to cost the taxpayer millions. I note that Rollingstone only wants to talk about "permanent" jobs. How may jobs would be created while the pipeline is actually being built? I'm guessing it's substantially more than 50. Care to take me up on that?

The added jobs are a plus but what makes this pipeline a no brainer is that it's one more source of oil flowing into the US that DOESN'T come from a potential trouble spot...IE...the MiddleEast or Hugo Chavez. If things blow up internationally we'll be kicking ourselves for not giving ourselves more options. Of course since Barry and his progressive pals want to set the price of oil somewhere in the $6.00 a gallon range...he's OK with the huge price spikes we'd be seeing.

After incessant coverage of the failed solar panel maker Solyndra, major TV and print news outlets are now ignoring a report concluding that “the focus on Solyndra is not proportional to its impact.” The Bloomberg Government analysis of the Department of Energy’s 1705 loan guarantee program found that 87 percent of the portfolio is low-risk and that even if all 10 of the higher risk projects defaulted, we’d still have nearly half a billion dollars left in the fund set aside by Congress to cover losses.

Anything that is going to raise the price of gasoline here I am against.

Media Ignore Bloomberg Report Undermining Their Solyndra Hype: "The Focus on Solyndra Is Not Proportional to Its Impact" | ThinkProgress

A Think Progress article saying that all the tax money lost on Solyndra isn't a big deal? That's your response? Come on Boo...why even waste time posting that?

My point is that the pipeline project that Obama just refused to OK would have created thousands of jobs at zero cost to the American taxpayer...something which is in STARK contrast to the hundreds of millions of our tax dollars spent on Solyndra with a result of jobs being lost. Why is this Administration so determined to do stupid things?

Could it be that Obama knows that he is doomed and is doing as much damage as he can before he is escorted OUT of the Oval office...?

 

[Full-Auto]

Because the GOP governors are smart enough to realize what an expensive boondoggle high-speed rail would be......the cost of maintaining the lines would be exorbitant and those costs would be laid right on the states....BO does not know how to create anything that is cost effective....

Here in Seattle we installed some High speed rail.............. 20 miles worth at a cost of a cool billion. Now we can zoom to the airport.

And it will never ever recoup that billion will it?

Highly doubtful. It may take a few lifetimes.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Here in Seattle we installed some High speed rail.............. 20 miles worth at a cost of a cool billion. Now we can zoom to the airport.

And it will never ever recoup that billion will it?

Highly doubtful. It may take a few lifetimes.

It won't ever happen. So it will cost more money than it makes. Typical of any government project

 

[Full-Auto]

And it will never ever recoup that billion will it?

Highly doubtful. It may take a few lifetimes.

It won't ever happen. So it will cost more money than it makes. Typical of any government project

Democrats here created a tax for a certain segment of western washington for transportation. They illegally used tax money for media support of the project. Then it was decided not to go forward. They had to be sued to drop the tax.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Highly doubtful. It may take a few lifetimes.

It won't ever happen. So it will cost more money than it makes. Typical of any government project

Democrats here created a tax for a certain segment of western washington for transportation. They illegally used tax money for media support of the project. Then it was decided not to go forward. They had to be sued to drop the tax.

and liberal governor cristine gregoire has been sucking up "high-speed rail" funds rejected by other states to improve the Amtrak passenger rail line which maybe gets up to "high speeds" of 85mph or so...

 

[The T]

It won't ever happen. So it will cost more money than it makes. Typical of any government project

Democrats here created a tax for a certain segment of western washington for transportation. They illegally used tax money for media support of the project. Then it was decided not to go forward. They had to be sued to drop the tax.

and liberal governor cristine gregoire has been sucking up "high-speed rail" funds rejected by other states to improve the Amtrak passenger rail line which maybe gets up to "high speeds" of 85mph or so...

I'd love to see AMTRAK go to private ownership with ALL railroads rails it is allowed to travel upon pitching in.

CONRAIL (which was formed from 7 failing NE railroads) survived and turned profits and was sold and split between CSX and Norfolk Southern.

 

[Robodoon]

The EPA is a creation of the Globalists. The EPA promotes UN AGENDA 21

"Agenda 21 is a 40-chapter UN document to reorganize the world around socialist, command and control regulation."Michael S. Coffman, Ph. D.

 

[skookerasbil]

Why should we continue to subsidize a dying technology?

Fossil fuels receive 5 times the government subsidies that solar and wind do.

Here's some hints.
That oil will STILL be there later on and the methods for extracting it safely will only get better and the price can only go up. So what's your hurry to get it out now?

A dying technology??? Can I laugh my balls off any harder?

s0n.........time to avoid the crap you read over at Huffington. Indeed........the k00k left on this board best buckle up their chinstraps because in the coming years we are going to be drilling, fracking and clean coaling our asses off.............100% certainty. Every single swinging dick on this board will be long, long in their box beforee fossil fuels become a "dying technology".

Solar and wind are laughable and even by 2020 will not be much more than 5% of our energy.......if that. The days of subsidizing these 19th century technologies will soon be mothballed............because they are a fcukking joke!! When the country owns 16 trillion, you go with the cheap energy s0ns.........its just the way its gonna be.


You can purchase chinstraps at Sports Authority by the way............



ps.........for dolts who missed it..........this past summer, the UN stated that the world going green would cost ONLY 76 trillion!!!!

Even U.N. Admits That Going Green Will Cost $76 Trillion | Fox News

 

[Full-Auto]

it won't ever happen. So it will cost more money than it makes. Typical of any government project

democrats here created a tax for a certain segment of western washington for transportation. They illegally used tax money for media support of the project. Then it was decided not to go forward. They had to be sued to drop the tax.

and liberal governor cristine gregoire has been sucking up "high-speed rail" funds rejected by other states to improve the amtrak passenger rail line which maybe gets up to "high speeds" of 85mph or so...

85 between stops?

yippie!!!!