Deception won D-Day

[Decus]

The first thing cadets learn about military tactics is when not to engage in a direct assault on an impregnable fortress. The "secrecy" hype is B.S. Life was cheap back then. Ike had a million draftees and if that is what it took to take Europe he was prepared to do so. The history books are written by the winning side.

FDR was one rotten bastard. The consummate politician.

 

[regent]

The people of that generation voted for FDR four times, and the historians have voted FDR as one of the three greatest American presidents since they began voting. So the people that lived in that period seemed to have thought FDR was great and the historians that have studied that period seem to think he was great, so that leaves some Republicans that don't agree and their evidence is to call FDR names.

 

[nitroz]

We won D-day because the Germans thought we would not invade due to poor conditions (such as rough tide, etc). Also, the German leadership happened to be on short vacation when we invaded.

 

[whitehall]

The people of that generation voted for FDR four times, and the historians have voted FDR as one of the three greatest American presidents since they began voting. So the people that lived in that period seemed to have thought FDR was great and the historians that have studied that period seem to think he was great, so that leaves some Republicans that don't agree and their evidence is to call FDR names.

"People that lived in that time" voted for a dying and perhaps demented president for his 4th term. Democrats knew he was dying so they hand picked a bean counter rube successor and dumped the sitting V.P. while he was on vacation because he was too independent. Harry Truman woke up one morning in April 1945 and found out he was president and he didn't have a clue. FDR's medical records disappeared from a locked vault shortly after his death and democrats covered that one up too. It's possible that FDR was completely disabled by a series of strokes but democrats kept it a secret.

 

[whitehall]

I'm sorry but we didn't "win" D-Day. We established a beachhead in a long day at the cost of a couple of thousand American lives and the lives of a couple of thousand (expendable) innocent French farmers who could not be warned about the pending invasion. The courage of the American soldier was incredible but life was cheap and Americans back home were taught to accept another 30,000 American deaths in the next couple of months and another hundred thousand in the next year.

 

[ThirdTerm]

It was called Operation Fortitude and the German defenders were fooled by the Allies' misinformation on the upcoming invasion plan through controlled leaks of information and they were expecting attacks on Norway and the southern part of France and Rommel took considerable steps to heavily fortify the coastline of Pas de Calais and a fictitious force under General George Patton was positioned in southern England to keep the Germans occupied to defend Pas de Calais, which effectively weakened the German defence on D-Day beaches in Normandy.

 

[Peach]

If we had a president like obama, the D-Day plans would have been leaked to the Germans long before D-Day ever happened.

If the hard core right had influenced more with their anti FDR babble, we would now be speaking German; those of us alive that is.

 

[Unkotare]

Hitler's stupidity played a large part in our winning on D-Day.

 

[Unkotare]

If we had a president like obama, the D-Day plans would have been leaked to the Germans long before D-Day ever happened.

If the hard core right had influenced more with their anti FDR babble, we would now be speaking German; those of us alive that is.

That doesn't make any sense.

 

[Peach]

It was called Operation Fortitude and the German defenders were fooled by the Allies' misinformation on the upcoming invasion plan through controlled leaks of information and they were expecting attacks on Norway and the southern part of France and Rommel took considerable steps to heavily fortify the coastline of Pas de Calais and a fictitious force under General George Patton was positioned in southern England to keep the Germans occupied to defend Pas de Calais, which effectively weakened the German defence on D-Day beaches in Normandy.

Yes, the dead "intelligence officer" * left where the Germans could find him was brilliant. And the Maqui did their share also. Moulin said nothing after hours of torture, he died a true hero. The "freedom fries" crowd should some WWII history, perhaps they can learn about the Resistance/Free French.

*He had died of pneumonia, and was planted, but the Germans never figured it out.