Debunking the rightwing "class warfare" retard rhetoric

[CrusaderFrank]

That's totally wrong. Either you're stupid or a liar. In either case, we can safely ignore any statistics you post to this forum.

Stop being a distorter you moron, part of the reason why a lot of people are not paying income taxes is because the rich pay most of their taxes on capital gains and dividends which is taxed at a lower rate than income taxes so the super rich who earned 100 million dollars of their dividends and capital gains would only pay may 17 million of that in taxes, a middle class person who makes 30,000 dollars a year will pay proportionally more in income taxes.

It's not just that; income taxes only account for around 40% of federal revenue. Another 40% comes from FICA taxes. The weatlhy pay very little in those taxes compared to everyone else as a percentage of their income.

The wealthy don't depend on the bankrupt Social Security "Trust Fund" either

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Stop being a distorter you moron, part of the reason why a lot of people are not paying income taxes is because the rich pay most of their taxes on capital gains and dividends which is taxed at a lower rate than income taxes so the super rich who earned 100 million dollars of their dividends and capital gains would only pay may 17 million of that in taxes, a middle class person who makes 30,000 dollars a year will pay proportionally more in income taxes.

It's not just that; income taxes only account for around 40% of federal revenue. Another 40% comes from FICA taxes. The weatlhy pay very little in those taxes compared to everyone else as a percentage of their income.

The wealthy don't depend on the bankrupt Social Security "Trust Fund" either

Dude, I don't need strawmen arguments.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Bass 2.O

If no one else will take at this one --- I will...

Black unemployment started to rise when the recession took place, not when Obama took office and please point out what Obama policies cause the black unemployment rate to rise, give the name of said policy(ies) and show how they impacted black unemployment.

In the 1st 2 years of his admin, B.O. (and more significantly Pelosi/Reid) held EVERY ASPECT of the American hostage with legislative uncertainty..

** The healthcare abortion (whateverthefuck it was that nobody read) that hung over the heads of every employer..

** The threat of cap/trade energy policy and the delegation to the EPA of powers to treat CO2 as a pollutant (as I live and breathe).. Hold your breath, we're still not there..

** The bush tax cuts. This one went right up until the last f'in minute and we're STILL arguing about it.

** The wars abroad.. Still no definitive policy or conclusion.

** Frank/Dodd legislation which wasn't really legislation (just an empty place-holder for regs) and is being developed (Slowly) in back room deals by unaccountable bureaucrats..

EVERRY SINGLE ASPECT of the American economy has been held CAPTIVE by the Pelosi/Reid socialist steam roller and now a more neutered Chief Exec. The UNCERTAINTY of all this for employers is why blacks (and whites) will CONTINUE to suffer in the workforce.. Get a clue --- clear the decks. And tell your troops to catch up on their "in boxes"....

One of the things I find so damn amusing about the healthcare debate is how Republitards argue that so called "Obama Care" is going to hurt employers when in reality it stands to benefit employers just as much as the employees. The health care plan is going to be affordable even to the full time worker and McDonald's, that my friends is going to cost employers less money paying for health care for their employees, a simple way to cut costs, now how could it be job killing legislation?

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Obama has continued the decline through his policies. The first to lose millions of jobs after a recession ended. This sis due to regulation, future regulation and the promise of the fair share. Confidence is lacking, people do not want to invest with the uncertainty and the fact that on at least on two occasions screwed investors.

This simply is not a business friendly environment.

Where is proof of all this regulation and point out which policies that are specifically his. Don't beat me in the head with the BS you parrot from Foxnews and their acolytes.

ARE YOU SERIOUS? Are you really serious? My bad I thought you were a serious poster.

But you appear not more then little ole al sharpton. sad really.


Red Tape Rising: Regulation in the Obama Era | The Heritage Foundation

Try to digest the information.

Then stop and ask yourself why regs have gone forward after cap and trade was defeated in bipartisan fashion.

Heritage Foundation, the source of official data without a slant,

 

[Liability]

It's not just that; income taxes only account for around 40% of federal revenue. Another 40% comes from FICA taxes. The weatlhy pay very little in those taxes compared to everyone else as a percentage of their income.

The wealthy don't depend on the bankrupt Social Security "Trust Fund" either

Dude, I don't need strawmen arguments.

Your ample ignorance is showing.

Note the word "either," dimwit.

CF is using that as a kind of counter-example to the shit you had just spewed.

A straw man argument would be IF he had suggested that you had made the argument and he was refuting it. That didn't happen, you mental pygmy. CF was refuting the "argument" which you HAD made by an example of his OWN, dopey.

Your misuse of that term of logic underscores your ignorance.

 

[Full-Auto]

Where is proof of all this regulation and point out which policies that are specifically his. Don't beat me in the head with the BS you parrot from Foxnews and their acolytes.

ARE YOU SERIOUS? Are you really serious? My bad I thought you were a serious poster.

But you appear not more then little ole al sharpton. sad really.


Red Tape Rising: Regulation in the Obama Era | The Heritage Foundation

Try to digest the information.

Then stop and ask yourself why regs have gone forward after cap and trade was defeated in bipartisan fashion.

Heritage Foundation, the source of official data without a slant,

I understand. when you can nit refute. SHOOT THE MESSENGER.


Try google it has that leftwing slant. So you should be right at home.

You might even pick up what the CEOs are saying

Like this one.

Co-Founder of Home Depot Slams Obama - Katie Pavlich


But that might be to far right fo you, so try google once again and type in regulation costs.

Thanks for playing.

 

[Liability]

Black unemployment started to rise when the recession took place, not when Obama took office and please point out what Obama policies cause the black unemployment rate to rise, give the name of said policy(ies) and show how they impacted black unemployment.

Hey, douche, I asked FRANK a question.

Please tell us all how the Obama Administration efforts came close to honoring the promises he made when he sought the jobs programs spending bills.

Are things a whole lot BETTER now thanks to the Obama Administration policies, Basshole?

Or are you content to possibly give honesty a try for a refreshing change of pace, and acknowledge that maybe Crusdaer Frank had a point?

Can't answer the question so you're using fallacious reasoning right?

Wrong, dumbass. Your "questions," as I correctly noted, are irrelevant to the discussion. This comes as no surprise since you obviously lack the ability to keep up.


Did the President make a lot of baseless, cynical dishonest "promises" or didn't he?

Has the situation gotten worse since hee took his turn at the helm, despite his idiotic borrow and spend "programs," or haven't they.

You can evade all you want (which we all see you doing; and we all understand why you're attempting so hard to deflect), but the questions put to you, you pussy, will not simply go away on account of the fact that you deflect and are a puss.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Hey, douche, I asked FRANK a question.

Please tell us all how the Obama Administration efforts came close to honoring the promises he made when he sought the jobs programs spending bills.

Are things a whole lot BETTER now thanks to the Obama Administration policies, Basshole?

Or are you content to possibly give honesty a try for a refreshing change of pace, and acknowledge that maybe Crusdaer Frank had a point?

Can't answer the question so you're using fallacious reasoning right?

Wrong, dumbass. Your "questions," as I correctly noted, are irrelevant to the discussion. This comes as no surprise since you obviously lack the ability to keep up.


Did the President make a lot of baseless, cynical dishonest "promises" or didn't he?

Has the situation gotten worse since hee took his turn at the helm, despite his idiotic borrow and spend "programs," or haven't they.

You can evade all you want (which we all see you doing; and we all understand why you're attempting so hard to deflect), but the questions put to you, you pussy, will not simply go away on account of the fact that you deflect and are a puss.

My questions are relevant Mr Liabilitard in light of the claims you made without providing any support for them, you have to show me money or GTHO my face with your BS. The country was already in the midst of a recession when Obama took over that was already going to get worse, these things run in cycles:

The Business Cycle Phases


As we seen, the country came out of the recession under Obama eventhough growth is slow, so they question of whether we are better or worse off under Obama is relative to what set of criteria you are comparing.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

ARE YOU SERIOUS? Are you really serious? My bad I thought you were a serious poster.

But you appear not more then little ole al sharpton. sad really.


Red Tape Rising: Regulation in the Obama Era | The Heritage Foundation

Try to digest the information.

Then stop and ask yourself why regs have gone forward after cap and trade was defeated in bipartisan fashion.

Heritage Foundation, the source of official data without a slant,

I understand. when you can nit refute. SHOOT THE MESSENGER.


Try google it has that leftwing slant. So you should be right at home.

You might even pick up what the CEOs are saying

Like this one.

Co-Founder of Home Depot Slams Obama - Katie Pavlich


But that might be to far right fo you, so try google once again and type in regulation costs.

Thanks for playing.

You know, when Flaylo posts from Huffington Post you laugh and joke that he cannot be serious, now you want me to take BS with a slant from Heritage Foundation serious? I posted my data from an unbiased source that simply listen tables of data without any slant.

 

[Liability]

Can't answer the question so you're using fallacious reasoning right?

Wrong, dumbass. Your "questions," as I correctly noted, are irrelevant to the discussion. This comes as no surprise since you obviously lack the ability to keep up.


Did the President make a lot of baseless, cynical dishonest "promises" or didn't he?

Has the situation gotten worse since hee took his turn at the helm, despite his idiotic borrow and spend "programs," or haven't they.

You can evade all you want (which we all see you doing; and we all understand why you're attempting so hard to deflect), but the questions put to you, you pussy, will not simply go away on account of the fact that you deflect and are a puss.

My questions are relevant Mr Liabilitard in light of the claims you made without providing any support for them, you have to show me money or GTHO my face with your BS. The country was already in the midst of a recession when Obama took over that was already going to get worse, these things run in cycles:

The Business Cycle Phases


As we seen, the country came out of the recession under Obama eventhough growth is slow, so they question of whether we are better or worse off under Obama is relative to what set of criteria you are comparing.

Your questions mister race-baiting, butthurt, hypocritical gasbag remain irrelevant regardless of how much you whinny to the contrary.

Tell us, ya flaming pussy: HAVE things improved for Americans of African descent since the child-king, President Obama, started plundering the Treasury to provide shovel ready jobs?

Or are you YET ready to acknowledge that they have gotten worse under his stewardship?

Hint: worse. It's ok to be honest. Try it someday.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Getting back to my OP, the suggestion by the rightwing retards in the forum who say that class warfare is being waged are simply parroting and repeating garbage from rightwing pundits from Foxnews and equal retarded bloggers and has nil basis in facts, the data don't support it.

 

[BoycottTheday]

Whats the odds this is what the debate sounds like up on capitol hill

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Wrong, dumbass. Your "questions," as I correctly noted, are irrelevant to the discussion. This comes as no surprise since you obviously lack the ability to keep up.


Did the President make a lot of baseless, cynical dishonest "promises" or didn't he?

Has the situation gotten worse since hee took his turn at the helm, despite his idiotic borrow and spend "programs," or haven't they.

You can evade all you want (which we all see you doing; and we all understand why you're attempting so hard to deflect), but the questions put to you, you pussy, will not simply go away on account of the fact that you deflect and are a puss.

My questions are relevant Mr Liabilitard in light of the claims you made without providing any support for them, you have to show me money or GTHO my face with your BS. The country was already in the midst of a recession when Obama took over that was already going to get worse, these things run in cycles:

The Business Cycle Phases


As we seen, the country came out of the recession under Obama eventhough growth is slow, so they question of whether we are better or worse off under Obama is relative to what set of criteria you are comparing.

Your questions mister race-baiting, butthurt, hypocritical gasbag remain irrelevant regardless of how much you whinny to the contrary.

Tell us, ya flaming pussy: HAVE things improved for Americans of African descent since the child-king, President Obama, started plundering the Treasury to provide shovel ready jobs?

Or are you YET ready to acknowledge that they have gotten worse under his stewardship?

Hint: worse. It's ok to be honest. Try it someday.

You're obviously mad or feigning madness with your mini tantrums, I just gave you food for thought not partisan laced garbage and personal attacks without data. You asked me a subjective question to which I responded properly with a link that deals with business cycles that list some useful information. Stop begging the question which is more fallacious reasoning.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Has the situation gotten worse since hee took his turn at the helm, despite his idiotic borrow and spend "programs," or haven't they.

If you took the time to stop being an ignorant partisan hack and actually educated yourself on the issue, you’d learn there’s little if anything policymakers can do, regardless who is in the WH, regardless his party affiliation:

But this recovery may remain lackluster for years, many economists say, because of heavy household debt, a financial system still damaged by the mortgage crisis, fragile confidence and a government with few good options for supporting growth.

Debt Overhang Slows U.S. Economic Recovery - WSJ.com

If McCain has been elected in 2008, we’d be exactly where we are now, he’d implement the same economic policies as Obama, since McCain would be advised by the same policymakers Obama is being advised by now.

It would be the same for Congress, as the options are just as limited and futile.

Heavy household debt will continue to be the most significant hindrance to recovery, as consumer spending has historically been the engine driving economic growth.

And heavy household debt didn’t appear all of a sudden January 20, 2009; as with all the problems the economy faces, they took years to develop and will take years to resolve.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Whats the odds this is what the debate sounds like up on capitol hill

Odds are it isn't, both sides are simply debating about what's the best solution for corporate America.

 

[BoycottTheday]

You mean what best for the crony capitalists

 

[bripat9643]

Getting back to my OP, the suggestion by the rightwing retards in the forum who say that class warfare is being waged are simply parroting and repeating garbage from rightwing pundits from Foxnews and equal retarded bloggers and has nil basis in facts, the data don't support it.

The rightwing has been saying that for decades, dipstick. They said long before FOX news was even a glimmer on Rupert Murdoch's eye.

I don't know who libtards think their fooling with this meme that all conservatives are simply the brainwashed dupes of rightwing media.

 

[Liability]

Getting back to my OP, the suggestion by the rightwing retards in the forum who say that class warfare is being waged are simply parroting and repeating garbage from rightwing pundits from Foxnews and equal retarded bloggers and has nil basis in facts, the data don't support it.

Getting back to the point:

The OP "contention" is dishonest.

There is NO valid argument to be made that the scumbag in chief isn't engaging in class warfare rhetoric.

He learned it at the teat of his Master, Saul Alinsky.

Public proclamations about taxing aircraft owners is clearly pandering bullshit since no amount of increased "revenue" the government could confiscate in that fashion would make the tiniest fucking DENT in the debt problem. And the Alinsky Acolyte in Chief fucking well KNOWS that.

When he talks about getting "more" from the richest people, he is insidiously arguing to those of us who do not qualify as "rich" that "those people" are ripping all of us off at OUR expense. But again, if ht took every penny the rich people already had (whether or not it had already been taxed), he would not resolve our nations dire debt problem.

he is a pandering class warfare preaching dishonest scumbag.

Defending him with the typical Basshole racist spew doesn't change that fact.

Face facts: President Obama is a fraud and the Basshole is one of his willing (would-be) enablers.

 

[Liability]

My questions are relevant Mr Liabilitard in light of the claims you made without providing any support for them, you have to show me money or GTHO my face with your BS. The country was already in the midst of a recession when Obama took over that was already going to get worse, these things run in cycles:

The Business Cycle Phases


As we seen, the country came out of the recession under Obama eventhough growth is slow, so they question of whether we are better or worse off under Obama is relative to what set of criteria you are comparing.

Your questions mister race-baiting, butthurt, hypocritical gasbag remain irrelevant regardless of how much you whinny to the contrary.

Tell us, ya flaming pussy: HAVE things improved for Americans of African descent since the child-king, President Obama, started plundering the Treasury to provide shovel ready jobs?

Or are you YET ready to acknowledge that they have gotten worse under his stewardship?

Hint: worse. It's ok to be honest. Try it someday.

You're obviously mad or feigning madness with your mini tantrums, I just gave you food for thought not partisan laced garbage and personal attacks without data. You asked me a subjective question to which I responded properly with a link that deals with business cycles that list some useful information. Stop begging the question which is more fallacious reasoning.

Nah. Pussy trolls like you WANT to believe you can get a rise out of us. You fail at that too.

I'm just highlighting your ceaseless dishonesty, Basshole.

"Business cycles" explains exactly diddly and squat -- as you knew when you threw that one against the wall hoping some of it might "stick."

 

[Chris]

The Forbes 400 pay taxes at only a 17% rate.

Why should the billionaires have a lower tax rate than we do?