Debates at Convention:Power Belongs to States and People of the States

[Bush92]

BRIA 25 2 The Major Debates at the Constitutional Convention - Constitutional Rights Foundation
Federal government has gown in size and power far beyond what the Founders felt was safe. If Republican Party controls 31 state legislatures and both houses of federal legislative branch...then how can Democrats still control power?

 

[Skylar]

BRIA 25 2 The Major Debates at the Constitutional Convention - Constitutional Rights Foundation
Federal government has gown in size and power far beyond what the Founders felt was safe. If Republican Party controls 31 state legislatures and both houses of federal legislative branch...then how can Democrats still control power?

Because the republicans in congress are divided. The democrats aren't.

 

[Bush92]

BRIA 25 2 The Major Debates at the Constitutional Convention - Constitutional Rights Foundation
Federal government has gown in size and power far beyond what the Founders felt was safe. If Republican Party controls 31 state legislatures and both houses of federal legislative branch...then how can Democrats still control power?

Because the republicans in congress are divided. The democrats aren't.

There is the 4th and 5thbranches of government. Democratic Party union controlled federal bureaucracy and liberal news media.

 

[Skylar]

BRIA 25 2 The Major Debates at the Constitutional Convention - Constitutional Rights Foundation
Federal government has gown in size and power far beyond what the Founders felt was safe. If Republican Party controls 31 state legislatures and both houses of federal legislative branch...then how can Democrats still control power?

Because the republicans in congress are divided. The democrats aren't.

There is the 4th and 5thbranches of government. Democratic Party union controlled federal bureaucracy and liberal news media.

Meaningless gibberish. Republicans can't bring the votes to the table in congress due to their own slow disintegration.

The democrats are comparatively united and can bring the votes. Its that simple.

 

[regent]

With the first two major conservative political parties gone into limbo, we may be witnessing the third conservative party, the Republican, ready for their final dive into the history books. America needs a conservative party, but they have understand that running a Trump hastens their demise, so it would be in their best interests. and America's, to keep him out of the White House.

 

[Bush92]

BRIA 25 2 The Major Debates at the Constitutional Convention - Constitutional Rights Foundation
Federal government has gown in size and power far beyond what the Founders felt was safe. If Republican Party controls 31 state legislatures and both houses of federal legislative branch...then how can Democrats still control power?

Because the republicans in congress are divided. The democrats aren't.

There is the 4th and 5thbranches of government. Democratic Party union controlled federal bureaucracy and liberal news media.

Meaningless gibberish. Republicans can't bring the votes to the table in congress due to their own slow disintegration.

The democrats are comparatively united and can bring the votes. Its that simple.

Republicans are united. That's all media crap.

 

[Bush92]

With the first two major conservative political parties gone into limbo, we may be witnessing the third conservative party, the Republican, ready for their final dive into the history books. America needs a conservative party, but they have understand that running a Trump hastens their demise, so it would be in their best interests. and America's, to keep him out of the White House.

Disagree. Why do Republicans control 31state houses? When Hillary loses the Democrats will split and say that they should have ran Bernie. I remember in 2008 media pundits were talking about the "demise of the GOP." 2010 the took back the House. 2014 took back Senate...BIG. No. Republican Party is fine. It's the Democrats that will split. Look at how well Bernie whites and Hillary blacks got along at convention.

 

[Skylar]

BRIA 25 2 The Major Debates at the Constitutional Convention - Constitutional Rights Foundation
Federal government has gown in size and power far beyond what the Founders felt was safe. If Republican Party controls 31 state legislatures and both houses of federal legislative branch...then how can Democrats still control power?

Because the republicans in congress are divided. The democrats aren't.

There is the 4th and 5thbranches of government. Democratic Party union controlled federal bureaucracy and liberal news media.

Meaningless gibberish. Republicans can't bring the votes to the table in congress due to their own slow disintegration.

The democrats are comparatively united and can bring the votes. Its that simple.

Republicans are united. That's all media crap.

Nope. They're not. You're willfully blind to the divisions within the Republican party.

And your willful blindness doesn't magically make those divisions disappear.

 

[Bush92]

BRIA 25 2 The Major Debates at the Constitutional Convention - Constitutional Rights Foundation
Federal government has gown in size and power far beyond what the Founders felt was safe. If Republican Party controls 31 state legislatures and both houses of federal legislative branch...then how can Democrats still control power?

Because the republicans in congress are divided. The democrats aren't.

There is the 4th and 5thbranches of government. Democratic Party union controlled federal bureaucracy and liberal news media.

Meaningless gibberish. Republicans can't bring the votes to the table in congress due to their own slow disintegration.

The democrats are comparatively united and can bring the votes. Its that simple.

Republicans are united. That's all media crap.

Nope. They're not. You're willfully blind to the divisions within the Republican party.

And your willful blindness doesn't magically make those divisions disappear.

Two choices...vote Trump or vote to ruin the Republic. It cannot withstand even another year of a liberal in executive office. We tester on brink of disaster.

 

[Skylar]

Because the republicans in congress are divided. The democrats aren't.

There is the 4th and 5thbranches of government. Democratic Party union controlled federal bureaucracy and liberal news media.

Meaningless gibberish. Republicans can't bring the votes to the table in congress due to their own slow disintegration.

The democrats are comparatively united and can bring the votes. Its that simple.

Republicans are united. That's all media crap.

Nope. They're not. You're willfully blind to the divisions within the Republican party.

And your willful blindness doesn't magically make those divisions disappear.

Two choices...vote Trump or vote to ruin the Republic. It cannot withstand even another year of a liberal in executive office. We tester on brink of disaster.

False Dichotomy fallacy. You're just offering generic fear mongering backed by nothing but your own willful blindness.

Which is meaningless.

 

[Bush92]

There is the 4th and 5thbranches of government. Democratic Party union controlled federal bureaucracy and liberal news media.

Meaningless gibberish. Republicans can't bring the votes to the table in congress due to their own slow disintegration.

The democrats are comparatively united and can bring the votes. Its that simple.

Republicans are united. That's all media crap.

Nope. They're not. You're willfully blind to the divisions within the Republican party.

And your willful blindness doesn't magically make those divisions disappear.

Two choices...vote Trump or vote to ruin the Republic. It cannot withstand even another year of a liberal in executive office. We tester on brink of disaster.

False Dichotomy fallacy. You're just offering generic fear mongering backed by nothing but your own willful blindness.

Which is meaningless.

I have lived long enough and seen enough to tell you...if you love America you will vote for they candidate that scares the establishment the most. It sure as the fuck is not Hillary. Think about it it lemmings.

 

[ScienceRocks]

This is a joke, right?

If this was so we would of stuck with the articles of confederation that kept nearly all the power at the state level. If this was true the federal government wouldn't have the supremacy cause and the ability to manage things across state lines.

The truth is the constitution allows for what we have today and granted the supreme court judicial review through case law to keep things with the times.

 

[Skylar]

Meaningless gibberish. Republicans can't bring the votes to the table in congress due to their own slow disintegration.

The democrats are comparatively united and can bring the votes. Its that simple.

Republicans are united. That's all media crap.

Nope. They're not. You're willfully blind to the divisions within the Republican party.

And your willful blindness doesn't magically make those divisions disappear.

Two choices...vote Trump or vote to ruin the Republic. It cannot withstand even another year of a liberal in executive office. We tester on brink of disaster.

False Dichotomy fallacy. You're just offering generic fear mongering backed by nothing but your own willful blindness.

Which is meaningless.

I have lived long enough and seen enough to tell you...if you love America you will vote for they candidate that scares the establishment the most. It sure as the fuck is not Hillary. Think about it it lemmings.

You can't even tell that there are deep divisions within the republicans party. Demonstrating that your 'long enough' clearly isn't.

You're expressing your fears, feelings and desires. Which has little to nothing to do with the world we actually live in. Your feelings aren't actually evidence.

 

[Bush92]

Republicans are united. That's all media crap.

Nope. They're not. You're willfully blind to the divisions within the Republican party.

And your willful blindness doesn't magically make those divisions disappear.

Two choices...vote Trump or vote to ruin the Republic. It cannot withstand even another year of a liberal in executive office. We tester on brink of disaster.

False Dichotomy fallacy. You're just offering generic fear mongering backed by nothing but your own willful blindness.

Which is meaningless.

I have lived long enough and seen enough to tell you...if you love America you will vote for they candidate that scares the establishment the most. It sure as the fuck is not Hillary. Think about it it lemmings.

You can't even tell that there are deep divisions within the republicans party. Demonstrating that your 'long enough' clearly isn't.

You're expressing your fears, feelings and desires. Which has little to nothing to do with the world we actually live in. Your feelings aren't actually evidence.

Let me tell you something Marxist...I've lived in this world you have created...but I will not go down without a fight and I can assure you I will go on to my last breath and my last drop of American blood to oppose your kind of anti- American behavior.

 

[Bush92]

This is a joke, right?

If this was so we would of stuck with the articles of confederation that kept nearly all the power at the state level. If this was true the federal government wouldn't have the supremacy cause and the ability to manage things across state lines.

The truth is the constitution allows for what we have today and granted the supreme court judicial review through case law to keep things with the times.

What are you babbling about communist trickster.

 

[Bush92]

My love for my country is only matched by my love for family. God bless Donald Trump.

 

[Bush92]

This is a joke, right?

If this was so we would of stuck with the articles of confederation that kept nearly all the power at the state level. If this was true the federal government wouldn't have the supremacy cause and the ability to manage things across state lines.

The truth is the constitution allows for what we have today and granted the supreme court judicial review through case law to keep things with the times.

What are you babbling about communist trickster.

Don't love America mutch huh Mattt? The "necessary and proper clause" was a not supposed to to be a blank fucking check!

 

[regent]

BRIA 25 2 The Major Debates at the Constitutional Convention - Constitutional Rights Foundation
Federal government has gown in size and power far beyond what the Founders felt was safe. If Republican Party controls 31 state legislatures and both houses of federal legislative branch...then how can Democrats still control power?

Because the republicans in congress are divided. The democrats aren't.

There is the 4th and 5thbranches of government. Democratic Party union controlled federal bureaucracy and liberal news media.

Our second president, Adams, and his conservative Congress tried to shut the media down with the Sedition Act, which made any criticism of the government guilty of sedition. People were arrested for saying bad words about Adams and the Federalist government. That was the end of the first conservative party in America.

 

[Bush92]

BRIA 25 2 The Major Debates at the Constitutional Convention - Constitutional Rights Foundation
Federal government has gown in size and power far beyond what the Founders felt was safe. If Republican Party controls 31 state legislatures and both houses of federal legislative branch...then how can Democrats still control power?

Because the republicans in congress are divided. The democrats aren't.

There is the 4th and 5thbranches of government. Democratic Party union controlled federal bureaucracy and liberal news media.

Our second president, Adams, and his conservative Congress tried to shut the media down with the Sedition Act, which made any criticism of the government guilty of sedition. People were arrested for saying bad words about Adams and the Federalist government. That was the end of the first conservative party in America.

Wrong. Adams was a liberal federalist and Jefferson and Madison fled from arrest and wrote the Virginia and Kentucky Resolves.

 

[regent]

As long as you have the power to decide liberal and conservative not much chance of getting a point across. In US history books the Federalists are listed as conservative as the conservative party as compared to the liberals of that day, the Republicans. The Republicans of Jefferson's day have no connection to today's Republican party. Might try reading a little history of America's beginnings.