Death Panels Alive and Well

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    There is a certain jaundiced view, here on this board, characterized by those individuals who will defend any and every pronouncement, and directive because the origin of said device is their chosen political party or political hero.


    So, earlier this year these fools pointed and cackled about those of us characterizing aspects of the so-called healthcare plan as a “Death Panel.”

    Yes…you know who you are, fool.

    1. First the “Death Panel cut costs as follows: “Two years ago the task force recommended that women in their 40s should no longer get routine mammograms, triggering controversy. The recommendation to avoid the PSA test is even more forceful and applies to healthy men of all ages.” Health | Healthy men shouldn't get protest test, panel says | Seattle Times Newspaper

    2. Now, “Healthy men should no longer receive a PSA blood test to screen for prostate cancer because the test does not save lives overall and often leads to more tests and treatments that needlessly cause pain, impotence and incontinence in many, a key government health panel has decided.

    The draft recommendation by the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force, due for official release next week, is based on the results of five well-controlled clinical trials and could substantially change the care given to men 50 and older.”Ibid.

    3. Interviewed about this development, was Dr. David Samadi, a board certified urologic oncologist trained in open traditional and laparoscopic surgery and is an expert in robotic prostatectomy surgery. He is the Vice Chairman, Department of Urology, and Chief of Robotics and Minimally Invasive Surgery at the Mount Sinai Medical Center in New York City. He has dedicated his distinguished career to the early detection, diagnosis and treatment of prostate cancer and is considered one of the most prominent surgeons in his field.

    a. In the interview, he expressed disappointment, if not surprise, explaining that these tests save lives. 40’s and 50’s are far from ‘old,’ and these tests are the reason why America’s medical care, in the area of cancer detection and treatment is far superior to nations with socialized medicine.

    b. Dr. Samadi predicted that colonoscopies would be next on the panel’s list.

    4. This development cannot be fully understood without realizing that leftist political philosophies do not honor human life. This leftist President actually appointed an advocate of widespread sterilization, and depopulation, Dr. John Holdren, as his 'science advisor.'
    He enrolled Communitarians on his healthcare advisory panel, such as Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, a health policy advisor in the Office of Management and Budget and brother of Rahm Emanuel, the president's chief of staff…”is one of those responsible for inserting into the “healthcare bill” the ideas that we no longer should have rights, such as determining what care we can buy, or how long we should live, and doctors should no longer look to the Hippocratic Oath, and the particular patient, but neglect the patient in the interests of ‘social justice,’ and the society as a whole.
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    a. The study further explains how several provisions of Obamacare give insurers, doctors, and hospitals incentives to deny and ration health care to patients. The American Spectator : The Obamacare Disaster

    b. "...a study based on data from 1993 through 1997 found lower cancer survival rates among Canadians than among Americans." Chen VW, Howe HL, Wu XC, Hotes JL, Correa CN (eds). Cancer in North America, 1993-1997. Volume Two: Mortality. Springfield, IL: North American Association of Central Cancer Registries, April 2000

    Death Panels are alive and well.
     
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    The medical industry is now looking at the same response for prostate cancer.

    Healthy men don’t need PSA test for prostate cancer, panel says

    Usually no early warning signs of prostate cancer

    The Center for Public Integrity: Forty percent of Medicare spending on common cancer screenings unnecessary, probe suggests
     
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    So...does this document the warnings that folks gave about ObamaCare....

    ....not care at all, just control of the economy based on withholding costly

    medical treatment.

    Those who will not get the benefits of medical care are the modern rendition of the Russian Kulaks,

    who also suffered when they stood in the way of Leftist janissaries.

    When will people learn what the Left is about...?
     
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    When it's almost too late. American history... :)
     
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