Dear "Conservatives"....

Who the hell are you ?

I'll support who I want, where I want, when I want.

In this case, he's less a BOS than the current BOS-In-Chief we have now.

Eat crap and die.
 
...if you support the Massachusetts liberal known as Mitt Romney you are not a conservative, you are just a Republican that will support whatever bag of shit they send you.

At least the Paul people have the balls to support a losing candidate that truly ebndorses their beliefs.

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Sorry to disillusion you but I've been supporting Romney since 2008. No one sent him to me.
 
This is the way it has been and will continue to be for some time regarding presidential elections.

Suppose there are 10 voters each election. 3 voters always vote republican (because they believe the party is always right), 3 other voters always vote democrat (because they believe the party is always right), and the other 4 voters are independent and always vote for the lesser of the "two evils" (because they believe that both parties are wrong but they prefer the least worse candidate for a given election cycle.)

The 4 voters who vote for the "lesser of two evils" prop up the system. If they were to take their 4 votes and give them to a reform candidate then they wouldn't have to vote for the lesser of two evils.

The vote total would be.
4 votes 40% towards reform candidate
3 votes 30% towards democrat
3 votes 30% towards republican

But if one independent voter decides to vote for a "lesser of the two evil candidates" then the reform vote fails, because either the democrat or republican gets majority vote at that point. The 3 remaining voters realize that their votes will be waisted if just one independent votes for either of the two parties, thus all independents vote for the "less of two evils" even though all the independents would prefer a reform party.

Both Republican and Democrat Parties realize that they will never lose duopoly power because independent voters would have to unify perfectly (if one independent votes for either of the two parties the reform is broken). Thus Republican's and Democrat's are never held accountable because they will never be replaced by a third party. Additionally, since both parties are unaccountable, they can honestly accuse each other of wrong doing. Thus perpetuating the "lesser of two evil" voting system.
 
Who the hell are you ?

I'll support who I want, where I want, when I want.

In this case, he's less a BOS than the current BOS-In-Chief we have now.

Eat crap and die.

So you are a Repblican, not a conservative. The two aren' mutually inclusive.

When you vote for a liberal for his nations highest office in November, you will demonstrate that you aren't a conservative.
 
...if you support the Massachusetts liberal known as Mitt Romney you are not a conservative, you are just a Republican that will support whatever bag of shit they send you.

At least the Paul people have the balls to support a losing candidate that truly ebndorses their beliefs.

Sign in below....



Sorry to disillusion you but I've been supporting Romney since 2008. No one sent him to me.

So you've been a liberal since 2008? Or has it been longer?
 
This is the way it has been and will continue to be for some time regarding presidential elections.

Suppose there are 10 voters each election. 3 voters always vote republican (because they believe the party is always right), 3 other voters always vote democrat (because they believe the party is always right), and the other 4 voters are independent and always vote for the lesser of the "two evils" (because they believe that both parties are wrong but they prefer the least worse candidate for a given election cycle.)

The 4 voters who vote for the "lesser of two evils" prop up the system. If they were to take their 4 votes and give them to a reform candidate then they wouldn't have to vote for the lesser of two evils.

The vote total would be.
4 votes 40% towards reform candidate
3 votes 30% towards democrat
3 votes 30% towards republican

But if one independent voter decides to vote for a "lesser of the two evil candidates" then the reform vote fails, because either the democrat or republican gets majority vote at that point. The 3 remaining voters realize that their votes will be waisted if just one independent votes for either of the two parties, thus all independents vote for the "less of two evils" even though all the independents would prefer a reform party.

Both Republican and Democrat Parties realize that they will never lose duopoly power because independent voters would have to unify perfectly (if one independent votes for either of the two parties the reform is broken). Thus Republican's and Democrat's are never held accountable because they will never be replaced by a third party. Additionally, since both parties are unaccountable, they can honestly accuse each other of wrong doing. Thus perpetuating the "lesser of two evil" voting system.

That's a lot of bandwidth to simpl point out that people vote out of expediency abandon no conviction.

I already know his.

Hence the thread,
 
...if you support the Massachusetts liberal known as Mitt Romney you are not a conservative, you are just a Republican that will support whatever bag of shit they send you.

At least the Paul people have the balls to support a losing candidate that truly ebndorses their beliefs.

Sign in below....



Sorry to disillusion you but I've been supporting Romney since 2008. No one sent him to me.

So you've been a liberal since 2008? Or has it been longer?


If by "liberal" you mean someone who lives a conservative lifestyle by choice and prefers to allow others their own choice rather than trying to legislate morality, but who appreciates competence and achievement in economic realms, then much longer than just 2008.
 
...if you support the Massachusetts liberal known as Mitt Romney you are not a conservative, you are just a Republican that will support whatever bag of shit they send you.

At least the Paul people have the balls to support a losing candidate that truly ebndorses their beliefs.

Sign in below....



Are you and the Nader followers going to get together for a Losers Orgy?
 
Who the hell are you ?

I'll support who I want, where I want, when I want.

In this case, he's less a BOS than the current BOS-In-Chief we have now.

Eat crap and die.

So you are a Repblican, not a conservative. The two aren' mutually inclusive.

When you vote for a liberal for his nations highest office in November, you will demonstrate that you aren't a conservative.

It's a tough call for conservatives. Obama is the most liberal of all choices. Voting for a third party candidate is a huge risk because it would likely hand the election to Obama. True conservatives will go for the least liberal candidate that has a chance of winning. Many moderates support Romney and others will hold their nose and vote for Romney because they consider him the lesser of two evils.

Cain was my guy and the left went after him with a vengeance. Couldn't have a conservative black or they couldn't have claimed the right was racist. It's really not about race. Cain represented what I believe and once he was out, I rooted for Paul, but know he doesn't have a chance. If I vote for Paul, it's just taking away a vote for Romney, who has a real chance of beating Obama.
 
As a moderate who has voted for Republicans in the past, it's not that I see Romney as a liberal or a conservative, it's that I don't really know what he is. There's no consistency with the guy.

I find it troubling that a person could totally reverse themselves on practically every important issue in under 5 years.

I get attacked from the right now when I say I still support their ideas of cap-and-trade and the individual mandate.

I feel that a Romney presidency would be like John Boehner's tenure in the House, where they start out center-right but then totally cave and then only pass hard-right bills, like the idiotic one they passed today that pays for the extension of lower student loan interest rates by cutting preventive medicine for women, like cancer screenings.

America is #1 at early cancer detection, but apparently the Republicans in Washington have a problem with that.

Their extreme stubbornness on everything is a result of an extreme wing that has hijacked the party.

Early cancer screenings should not be under assault at this time, but it is, and for that reason I just can't vote Republican this time. It's like you vote for them for two or three specific reasons, but then they create 8 problems that were totally unnecessary after they get elected.
 
I am as far right off the charts.
but,to get rid of inplace garbage we have....
putting the back behind romney.
if,by any chance he picks paul as VP
you bama bots have no chance in hell,as paul has a corner of your voting pool
disillusioned hope and change voters in 08
now smartened up
one key component hes been consistant with
i lived in MA from 05 to 08
and before the socialists finally voted in deval patrick
he was SLAUGHTER on illegal immigration
refused IDs and good vital items to illegals
fucked em royally
 
And he is one frealing hell of a businessperson,ill hand that to him as well.
it at least appears he wants to listen to the base...
rather than be megalomaniac like obama...doing his own thing.
 
And he is one frealing hell of a businessperson,ill hand that to him as well.
it at least appears he wants to listen to the base...
rather than be megalomaniac like obama...doing his own thing.

When has Obama done his own thing?

He was for the Republican plan on cap-and-trade and the individual mandate.

He kept Gitmo open.

Extended the Bush tax cuts.

The guy's been a nice moderate Republican to this point. I think the far right would really be shitting their pants at this point had he passed single-payer and nationalized the banking and oil industries.

And if he didn't save GM, the same mother fuckers who hate him for saving it would be accusing him of hating cars.
 
For conservatives the election doesn’t have anything to do with Romney, what he believes or doesn’t believe is irrelevant; whether Romney is a liberal or conservative is irrelevant.

What conservatives are voting for is what they imagine a Romney administration would look like, the actual administrators – appointed, not elected – who will run the country, rightwing extremists and partisan hacks who will determine the actual day to day policies, and make the actual day to day decisions.

And conservatives imagine most of these appointees will be hardcore conservative ideologues; conservatives won’t be voting for Romney, they’ll be voting for the likes of Karl Rove, Scooter Libby, Condoleezza Rice, Andrew Card, Alberto Gonzales, Karen Hughes, and Dick Cheney.

Indeed, the fact that Romney is weak and indecisive makes him even more attractive to conservatives, Romney will stay out of the way, act ‘presidential,’ as another republican shadow government manipulates the Nation from behind the scenes.

In essence they see Romney as another GWB, a clueless dolt content with being a vacuous figurehead.
 
Who the hell are you ?

I'll support who I want, where I want, when I want.

In this case, he's less a BOS than the current BOS-In-Chief we have now.

Eat crap and die.

So you are a Repblican, not a conservative. The two aren' mutually inclusive.

When you vote for a liberal for his nations highest office in November, you will demonstrate that you aren't a conservative.

It's a tough call for conservatives. Obama is the most liberal of all choices. Voting for a third party candidate is a huge risk because it would likely hand the election to Obama. True conservatives will go for the least liberal candidate that has a chance of winning. Many moderates support Romney and others will hold their nose and vote for Romney because they consider him the lesser of two evils.

Cain was my guy and the left went after him with a vengeance. Couldn't have a conservative black or they couldn't have claimed the right was racist. It's really not about race. Cain represented what I believe and once he was out, I rooted for Paul, but know he doesn't have a chance. If I vote for Paul, it's just taking away a vote for Romney, who has a real chance of beating Obama.

If Cain had nothing to hide, he wouldn't have crumpled like a house of cards when the going got tough. But he had plenty to hide.

Our two-party system doesn't allow for a third party. A vote for a third party simply takes a vote away from the party which has a chance of winning.
 
If you vote for either Obama or Mitt you might be either conservative or a liberal, but that won't make either of them either of those. What you'll be getting is either triddle-dee or twiddle-dum of the same Insiders Internationalist cabal that's run this nation into the crapper

Some of you still believe Obama is a liberal?

Even after seeing him sign both the ACA and NDAA, you still think Obama is a liberal? Even after keeping GITMO open?

:lol:


Jesus! ~ you people are dense.
 
Who the hell are you ?

I'll support who I want, where I want, when I want.

In this case, he's less a BOS than the current BOS-In-Chief we have now.

Eat crap and die.

So you are a Repblican, not a conservative. The two aren' mutually inclusive.

When you vote for a liberal for his nations highest office in November, you will demonstrate that you aren't a conservative.

What a sophomoric attempt to suggest that every election is not simply a choice between two candidates.

I'm certain that in your lithium-watch-battery brain you believe you can cause anyone not to vote against this failure in the White House.....

.....wrong.
 

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