David Gergen says Obama could lose because of his blackness

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    CNN political analyist opening said tonight that Obama might be leading in the polls but he doesn't really believe the polls and thinks that Obama could ultimately lose this election because he's black.

    the reality is he's probably more right than wrong on this issue.

    what a sad sad commentary on our country as a whole that a man, who, according to the polls, is who the people want, could end up losing because of long standing racism in this country.
     
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    oh please --not AGAIN--the race card is crap--pure crap. It's a real possiblity that Obama could lose because people prefer McCain. Imagine that. Do you realize how many white men have lost the election and race didn't have a damn thing to do with it ?
     
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    Now I floated this same ideal a few days ago and I was pounced as being an idiot. Now its plausible?
     
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    He has a point.
     
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    I didn't see you say this Crimson but I've been saying this for weeks. People like dillo who want to dismiss this as "playing the race card" are in complete denial about the reality of the situation.

    In THEORY I think there are people would think Obama would make the better President but when they go behind the curtain will they actually pull the lever for him to be president?

    I want to believe they will. I know I will and I'm as white as they come.

    and dillo, I'm not playing the race card, I'm opening up a discussion based on what a WHITE CNN commentator said... how exactly does a white guy play the black race card?
     
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    By laying guilt trips on the audience.
     
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    I think it was the bradley effect people disagreed with. And I,for one, have never called you an idiot. :eusa_whistle:

    Something interesting,though. On CNN, the panel of 25, the ones who were responding really positively to obama (the undecideds).. a lot of them said they'd made up their minds to vote for mccain. i thought that was interesting.
     
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    do you actually think it's a strategic effort? really? or is he simply saying what everyone else thinks but won't speak about?

    Why can't we discuss the fact that Obama actually winning isn't a forgone conclusion just based on the polling numbers?

    There will be people who won't vote for Obama because they disagree with him on policy. but there will ALSO be people who won't vote for him based on nothing more than the color of his skin.

    Flip side to that is there will be people who will vote for him based on nothing more than the color of his skin even if they know nothing about his policies and plans.
     
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    Care to elaborate on what you think the significance of that is ?
     
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    The thing is Obama is far from radical. He's really not from the liberal wing of the Democratic party in a way that Barbara Mikulski or Ted Kennedy are.

    Obama is a lot closer to Bill Clinton, than he is to Barbara Boxer.

    You know what? If Obama had white skin, spoke with a southern accent, and came from North Carolina, he would be up by 15 points in the polls.

    I'm convinced of that.
     
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