Damning Ruling Posted in the Mann-v-Ball ‘Trial of the Century’

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    Dr. Mann got the legal beat down he deserved, by the release of the official final judgement, his appeal will be dead on arrival, if the fool goes through with it. It was Dr. Mann who killed his own case in the first place, with his incessant foot dragging over the years.

    From PSI

    Damning Ruling Posted in the Mann-v-Ball ‘Trial of the Century’

    Published on September 19, 2019

    Written by John O'Sullivan

    EXCERPT:

    The Supreme Court of British Columbia has released the damning official final Judgment in the Mann-v-Ball ‘science trial of the century.’

    Honourable Mr Justice Giaschi ruled that Mann’s multi-million-dollar, eight-year libel suit is “dismissed with prejudice” due to Mann’s “inexcusable delay.” (see: Para. 13).

    The key points from the ruling are cited below:

    Honourable Mr Justice Giaschi ruled:

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    Mann should be prosecuted for fraud.
     
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    Guess he just didn't count on the plaintiff asking him to produce his data and methodology.... Imagine that... LOL....
     
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    The Judge didn't consider that important to the Dismissal order request by the Defendant of 21 March, 2019. Here is the actual decision from the Supreme Court of British Columbia, the decision is an easy read for most people who can think beyond 2+2=4 level:

    IN THE SUPREME COURT OF BRITISH COLUMBIA

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    Mann v. Ball,

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    Yeah -- but ---

    The reason for the delay could be beyond the judge's description in that link.. I THOUGHT the defendant had asked for materials from Mann.. I remember hearing that... Materials were never specified, but I ASSUME it had to do with Mann's papers and research... That would explain why the prosecution was "just too busy" to move forward..

    I'll see if I can dig that up...
     
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    That's because mann is a moron.
     
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    Here ya go.. The reason for the unexplained delay....

    Michael Mann Refuses to Produce Data, Loses Case

    What happened was that Dr. Ball asserted a truth defense. He argued that the hockey stick was a deliberate fraud, something that could be proved if one had access to the data and calculations, in particular the R2 regression analysis, underlying it. Mann refused to produce these documents. He was ordered to produce them by the court and given a deadline. He still refused to produce them, so the court dismissed his case.

    The rules of discovery provide that a litigant must make available to opposing parties documents that reasonably bear on the issues in the case. Here, it is absurd for Mann to sue Ball for libel, and then refuse to produce the documents that would have helped to show whether Ball’s statement about him–he belongs in the state pen–was true or false. The logical inference is that the R2 regression analysis and other materials, if produced, would have supported Ball’s claim that the hockey stick was a deliberate fraud on Mann’s part.

    Need a confirming source on that because the link quotes Principia Scientific, which I don't fully trust.. But I saw this from MANY outlets back when the case was fresh....

    This is why I always take terms like "one of the leading scientists" from the press with a whole shaker of salt.. USUALLY, these are just ones that make the most noise and run to the cameras for attention...
     
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    Mark Styne's case here in the US is going to love this...
     
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    He's just the DJTrump of the Climate Science Clan... :113: Always the "go-to" guy to get what the press and politicos want to hear.. And doesn't have to PAY for any of his publicity....
     
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    I hope the good doctor is able to pursue the civil RICO case against mann. That would be DELICIOUS
     
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