DACA "Kids" Should Be Deported

[protectionist]

The law is that those who came here illegally (without inspection from immigration authorities) must be deported. It's true that people who came here as kids didn't do it with criminal or malicious intent. Nevertheless, they are in an illegal status, and Obama's DACA policy was done illegally.

It is truly tough for these people, when they,e been here and become accustomed to life in America, but granting them special favors brings up a couple of questions >>

1. What special favors are the kids of AMERICAN criminals being given ? Their parents having been separated from them by incarceration in prisons (some for life; others, the death penalty)

2. What about people who came here illegally as kids, but have been adults now for 10 or 20 years ? Have they sought to become American citizens ? (or chosen to remain in illegal status) If they chose to remain illegal, why should they get favors ?

 

[MindWars]

And Trump haters don't like when we want good for our own people in our own Country, they're that stupid.

 

[protectionist]

The DACA kids (now adults ) are taking jobs away from Americans, depriving US business of sales, adding to overpopulation, etc

 

[EverCurious]

Don't get too attached to the idea of deporting the Dreamers. I suspect President Trump is going to pardon the lot of them when Congress drops the ball... (He's always had a soft spot for the Dreamers)

 

[busybee01]

The law is that those who came here illegally (without inspection from immigration authorities) must be deported. It's true that people who came here as kids didn't do it with criminal or malicious intent. Nevertheless, they are in an illegal status, and Obama's DACA policy was done illegally.

It is truly tough for these people, when they,e been here and become accustomed to life in America, but granting them special favors brings up a couple of questions >>

1. What special favors are the kids of AMERICAN criminals being given ? Their parents having been separated from them by incarceration in prisons (some for life; others, the death penalty)

2. What about people who came here illegally as kids, but have been adults now for 10 or 20 years ? Have they sought to become American citizens ? (or chosen to remain in illegal status) If they chose to remain illegal, why should they get favors ?

Apparently Trump does not agree with you except he is afraid to admit it. He has tweeted that Dreamers will not be deported and says he will revisit the issue if Congress fails to pass legislation. He clearly does not want to send them back.

 

[protectionist]

Apparently Trump does not agree with you except he is afraid to admit it. He has tweeted that Dreamers will not be deported and says he will revisit the issue if Congress fails to pass legislation. He clearly does not want to send them back.

:When it comes to Trump matters, "apparently" is a word to use AFTER all is said and done. Time will tell - that's the best gauge for things in Trump mode.

 

[waltky]

What happens when migrant children are deported home...

What happens when migrant children are deported home
15 Aug.`18 - Central American migrant children face intensified violence and poverty when they're deported back to their home countries, according to a new UNICEF report released today.

Migrant children fleeing violence and poverty in their home countries are even more vulnerable if they’re deported back once they arrive in the U.S. and Mexico, in part because they return to worse conditions than those that prompted them to leave in the first place, the U.N.’s agency for children said in a report released today. “I think a lot of people don’t understand how much worse it can actually be for people when they are pushed back” to their home countries, said Christopher Tidey, a communication specialist for the United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF) and a lead author on this latest report. “It’s not just as simple as going home,” he added.

Migrant children from Honduras and Mexico play at the Senda de Vida migrant shelter in Reynosa, in Tamaulipas state, Mexico​

The UNICEF report said the children decide to make the journey north to Mexico and the U.S. from northern Central America — specifically, El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, where gangs have virtually taken over as the local authority. Their daily lives are marked by poverty and a lack of social services. These same conditions are intensified and new problems can develop once the U.S. and Mexico decides to deport them, UNICEF said in its report, which includes summaries of interviews it conducted with migrant families. That migrant children could face worsened conditions upon their forced return isn’t a new idea. But it’s one that could be neglected when it comes to coverage of the region or policy proposals in dealing with the crisis, Tidey told the PBS NewsHour. Here’s a closer look at the agency’s findings:

Who’s affected, and why do they leave?

Between January and June of this year, UNICEF said more than 96,000 migrants, including more than 24,000 women and children, returned to their home countries after being deported from Mexico and the U.S. And that number appears to be growing, aided in part by the increased cooperation between Mexico and the U.S. under the Southern Border Plan, launched in 2014 to strengthen border security and apprehensions along Mexico’s border with Guatemala. The majority of migrant children are being pushed back to their home countries from Mexico, in part because of the Southern Border Plan, Tidey said.

A Honduras deportee from the U.S., embraces a relative as he arrives with others, outside the Migrant Center San Pedro Sula, Honduras​

Family reunification is another motivating factor for why migrant children leave their home countries. UNICEF cited a 2016 survey that found nearly 32 percent of migrant children who were deported back to their home country of Honduras said reunification with family who had already made the journey north was the main reason for fleeing their home. Of those who were returned to El Salvador, 28 percent said family reunification was their main motivating factor, according to a separate 2018 survey.

What conditions do migrant children face when they’re forced to return to their home countries?

See also:

Why the government doesn’t always know what happens to unaccompanied migrant children
Aug 16, 2018 - A Department of Health and Human Services official told members of a senate subcommittee Thursday that his agency, charged with overseeing the care of immigrant children who arrive in the U.S. without parents or legal guardians, is not responsible for ensuring the children’s welfare once they are handed over to the custody of sponsors.

Senators on the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs investigations subcommittee hearing blasted immigration officials, including U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps Commander Jonathan D. White, over what they described as a lack of progress on improving the “unaccompanied alien children” program that shelters unaccompanied migrant youth and places them with sponsors while they await their immigration court proceedings. More than 200,000 unaccompanied migrant children have entered the U.S. since 2012, according to a Senate staff report released Wednesday, often to escape violence and poverty in their home countries. The interagency “UAC” program they are placed into upon arrival is managed by the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Health and Human Services, and for years, it has been criticized for a lack of oversight that can makes migrant children more vulnerable to human trafficking and abuse.

Occupants at Casa Padre, an immigrant shelter for unaccompanied minors, in Brownsville, Texas, are seen in this photo provided by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services​

Investigations into the program began in 2015, when members of the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations first learned about a case in which Health and Human Services failed to properly vet sponsors, putting eight Guatemalan children into the custody of human traffickers who forced them to work 12-hour shifts at an egg farm in Ohio. “We have a serious problem on our hands: these children are at risk of trafficking and abuse,” Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, said at Thursday’s hearing. “When these children do not appear for their immigration proceedings they lose their chance to argue for immigration relief, and many remain in this country illegally,” he added.

The hearing and the report highlighted many of the program’s shortcomings, emphasizing that despite a number of recommendations offered by the subcommittee over three years, little progress had been made to improve the program and ensure the children’s welfare. Here’s a look at four problems with the program, according to members of the subcommittee:

It isn’t clear who is legally responsible for the well-being of children once they leave the shelters.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

No, they should not.

DACA participants' immigration status is not the result of a failure on the part of the participants.

Most came to the United States legally, and subsequently lost that status through no fault of their own.

This is Congress' responsibility to address, and amend immigration law to accommodate DACA participants.

 

[Rustic]

No, they should not.

DACA participants' immigration status is not the result of a failure on the part of the participants.

Most came to the United States legally, and subsequently lost that status through no fault of their own.

This is Congress' responsibility to address, and amend immigration law to accommodate DACA participants.

The problem with all of these illegal aliens is the problems they bring with them… We don’t want their fucking problems

 

[AveryJarhman]

In all seriousness, do you believe American OR foreign born people are acting in the best interests of their CHILDREN, as well as their community and Nation, when they intentionally introduce newborns, infants, toddlers, children and teens to a traumatic, potentially life scarring childhood upbringing fraught with struggles, depression, sorrow, uncertainty, community violence, community FEAR, demeaning government handouts, resentment, sadness, hardships and PAIN?

Honestly, I have very little respect for adults IRRESPONSIBLY teaching and conditioning their children and teens, to believe it is okay to scoff at, and DISREGARD criminal or civil Rules of Law established by the American people, as well as any other Nation.

If Americans genuinely care about our planet's children they would do everything in their power to EDUCATE our foreign born neighbors about a potentially life scarring medical disease/condition: "Childhood Trauma" aka "Adverse Childhood Experiences" (#ACEs).

During a March 11, 2018 '60 Minutes' segment titled, "Treating Trauma," Oprah Winfrey, a 'Childhood Trauma' (#ACEs) victim-survivor, shared knowledge regarding an easily PREVENTABLE, though potentially life scarring *CHILD CARE* PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.

EYE-OPENING knowledge Oprah exuberantly declares is a "game changer."

YouTube search terms: "Oprah Winfrey, Fixing The 'Hole In Your Soul'"



If Americans genuinely care about our planet's children, in addition to EDUCATION, they would offer our foreign born neighbors an unlimited supply of SAFE, effective birth control devices that would allow for a HEALTHY sex life, while preventing CHILDREN from irresponsibly being introduced to an UNHEALTHY, potentially life scarring childhood upbringing.

Peace.
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American *(Children's)* Lives Matter; Take Pride In Parenting; End Our National Health Crisis; Child Abuse and Neglect;