D.C. crime shows, gun laws don't stop criminals, keeping them locked up stops criminals....

2aguy

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The gun control laws in D.C. are insane....and they aren't stopping criminals from killing each other with guns. The problem isn't normal gun owners who own and carry guns for self defense......the problem is that democrat judges keep letting repeat gun offenders out of jail on bond, and out of prison on short sentences.....why is it that anti-gunners don't care about this? That is, if lowering gun murder rates is the real goal....? We know they don't really care about criminals with guns...they show this with their policies and when they let known violent gun offenders out of jail over and over again........



DC Police Chief Discovers That Gun Control Laws Do Nothing About a Revolving Door Criminal Justice System - The Truth About Guns

Washington, D.C. has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation and a serious crime problem. Much of that is likely due to the Districtā€™s decidedly lenient treatment of violent felons. Now, after a week spent dealing with eight dead bodies, D.C.ā€™s top cop thinks maybe keeping offenders in prison might be a more effective way to DO SOMETHING.

About 70% of the people arrested with guns in D.C. have had prior arrests for firearm-related offenses. In 2018, nearly half the people arrested for homicide had prior gun arrests.


ā€œItā€™s very disturbing to me to see people who we know are potentially going to be involved in violent behavior and weā€™re not appropriately dealing with them when we get them the first time,ā€ (Police Chief Peter) Newsham said.

He wants more to be done to make sure gun offenders are being held accountable.

This is the actual solution to gun crime......

I support a life sentence on any criminal who uses a gun for an actual gun crime..... and 30 years if a criminal is caught in possession of a gun, even if they are not using it at that moment for crime.

This will dry up gun crime over night. Criminals will stop using guns for robberies, rapes and murders.....and those who do will be gone forever......

Criminals will also stop walking around with guns in their pants......which is the leading cause of random gang shootings in our cities. if they are stopped by police, with a gun in their pants, they are gone for 30 years...they will stop carrying those guns, and random gang violence will end.

You implement this with two other things...

1) No More Bargaining Away the Gun Charge.........it must be against the law to bargain away a gun charge as part of a plea deal....this stops.

2) When a criminal is arrested for any crime, and booked in...they will be read the announcement that any use of a crime is a life sentence without parole, owning or carrying a gun as a felon is a 30 year sentence without parole....when they are released from custody...the same will be read to them again....when they meet their parole officer it will be read to them again.....the U.S. government will also buy and send out Public announcements on this policy on t.v. radio. and cable......

That is how you stop gun crime over night.

Mass shooters are different..... but with only 93 people killed in mass public shootings in 2018, they are not the major problem in gun crime.

The value in my plan......it actually targets the individuals actually using guns to commit crimes and murder people....

It does not require new background check laws, it does not require gun licensing, licensing gun owners, gun registration, new taxes, fees or regulations on guns...

By making gun crime a life sentence, criminals will stop using guns for crime and will stop carrying guns around for protection.....

Also....a nurse, with a legal gun, driving from Pennsylvania, to New Jersey, will not be considered a gun criminal.....that will end. Criminals with a record of crime, caught with a gun will get 30 years, no deals.....and criminals who use guns for actual crime...robbing the local store, rape, robbery, murder.....life without parole...

This, of course, eliminates the need for more gun control laws...we can already do this.....
Mass shooters

1) end gun free zones

2) get the media to stop covering mass shootings like it is the Oscars.....

3) We are already seeing this...get people who know these nuts to report these nuts....

4) Make sure the police who know these nuts arrest these nuts when they have the chance so they will pop on background checks....
What does each do to stop mass shooters....

1) keeps shooters from targeting people, since they target gun free zones.

2) The media not covering it like they are the criminal oscars deters copycats...just like they stopped covering teen suicides to stop the copycat effect

3) The only way to stop mass shooters, since they commit no other crime, is for family, coworkers and neighbors to report their violent behavior....the Odessa shooter should have felonies for the crimes he was committing but they didn't report his shooting his weapon from his front porch....

4) The Parkland shooter had 33 contacts with police and numerous contacts with police at his school.....due to Obama's "Promise Program" the police never arrested him for the felonies he committed....so he didn't pop on the background check..
 
This is why D.C. has a gun crime problem.....it is not because normal people own guns for self defense....

DC Poised to Triple Down on Early Release of Violent Criminals

One defendant killed an innocent 7-year-old child. Another shot a 24-year-old mother in the back. Others kidnapped a woman, held her in the back of a stolen van, and repeatedly gang-raped her.

These and about 583 other violent offendersā€”including murderers, rapists, and child molestersā€”could soon be let out of prison if Charles Allen, a D.C. Council member, has his way.

Allen recently proposed the Second Look Amendment Act of 2019, which would allow violent felons to get out of prison earlyā€”even if they havenā€™t had a parole hearingā€”and would prevent the judge from considering the nature of the crime(s) they committed.
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The 2016 Act

In 2016, the D.C. City Council, at Allenā€™s urging, passed a law to reform the criminal justice system for young offenders. The Comprehensive Youth Justice Amendment Act of 2016 substantially revised how D.C. law handles youthful offenders charged in adult court. Section 301 of the law is called the Incarceration Reduction Amendment Act of 2016.

This act, which went into effect on April 4, 2017, gave 16- and 17-year-old offenders who were convicted in the Superior Court (D.C.ā€™s adult criminal court) an opportunity to get out of prison early.

To be clear, the law does not apply to all 16- and 17-year-old offenders, but only those convicted in Superior Court (D.C.ā€™s adult criminal court). Thatā€™s an important distinction, because youths charged in Superior Court are those who are tried as adults because they have committed particularly heinous crimesā€”murder, rape, child molestation, and the like. The rest stay in juvenile court.

 
Seriously.....can any of the anti-gunners out there explain this? If stopping gun crime is your real issue....I know it isn't...but let's pretend....then why aren't you guys complaining about this crap....?

If my plan was in effect, this killer would still be in prison........and lives would be saved...

In a recent article criticizing the newly proposed law, former Assistant U.S. Attorney Glenn Kirschner, who led the homicide division in the U.S. Attorneyā€™s Office, shared the story of David Bailey, who had killed three people (two by shooting, one by stabbing) in two separate incidents by the time he was 17.

A judge released Bailey early under the 2016 law despite disciplinary infractions committed in prison (one of the factors the law required the judge to consider), a history of violence, and opposition from the victimsā€™ families.
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The 2018 amendment, innocuously called the Omnibus Public Safety and Justice Amendment Act of 2018, took effect in May and did four things.

First, it eliminated the ā€œnature of the offenseā€ as a factor that the judge must consider in deciding whether a sentence reduction is warranted. How the defendant murdered, raped, strangled, mutilated, stabbed, burned, or otherwise harmed another person is now supposed to be completely irrelevant to the judgeā€™s decision.

In other words, in determining whether itā€™s safe to release a violent criminal back into the community, the judge cannot consider any of the circumstances surrounding the defendantā€™s past violent act(s).


 

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