Cutting taxes sounds great till

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    Cutting taxes sounds great till those cuts affect you. America is understanding more every day about what is going on here since the election. Tax cutting has consequences and when most all the cuts go to help one sector of the nation while everything else is force to either cut benefits or programs or make the general public do without or get by with less.

    What were told is govt is costing us too much, and it should be cut. Putting money in the hands of people who will create jobs was/is being the big push behind most tax cuts, but where are the JOBS?

    People who have money have proven that if you can get to this point where you can use that money you can increase your wealth and never lift a finger, create a job, start a business or help anyone but their own self worth.

    So what is the new group in congress all about, there is only one thing that shows up at every step of the process, make the rich have a better oppertunity to get wealthier and those in the middle made to pick up more of the cost of running our nation and our local govts.

    So we get to that point when we have the top 20% who have anything they want, the next 20% who have a decent life and then the rest of you that have so little chance to improve it will be sad.
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    Oh, oh, oh, pick me Mister Kottaire.

    Cutting taxes sound great until the economy improves, companies start investing and hiring, people and businesses work less hard to avoid taxes and government revenue goes up as it has for every tax cut in history.

    Hmmm...I thought I had that one, but they still sound great...
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    People who's moral compass changes as the situation effects them have no moral compass and are void of integrity.

    Where are the jobs? Such an asanine questions presumes it's someone elses job to make sure you have a job in the first place. Newsflash: it isn't.
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    The post assumes that all money belongs to the government and they only let us use it for a little while. Government cannot create wealth, it can only confiscate money and redistribute it. The people who take the risks and hire and produce the goods we all enjoy are the people who really run the Country. Politicians work for the people and the sooner they understand that fact the longer they are going to enjoy their terms in government. Jobs are going overseas because politicians think they can legislate progress and productivity. The preamble of Constitution stated the duty of the federal government in two sentences. "To provide for the common defense" and "to promote the general welfare".
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    No you can't just make a bogus statement and blame everyone for being poor as just wanting it that way because they are not trying, like everyone has the same oppertunity out there and there is a good job for every American that wants one.

    But it is the job of the govt to make sure things are fair for all the people and that we do not end up with a HIARCHEY in the USA.

    but this is what tax cuts that mainly go to the rich are/have/will do.
    Hoffman: Did tax cuts create jobs? | Vtdigger.org
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    Good grief.
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    from above:

    Read more at link.
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    Of course there isn't. No one has ever promised anyone such a thing as a job for everyone that wants one.

    There are all kinds of jobs out there readily available. That you may not have the skills to do that job isn't anyone elses fault but your own.
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    It's not

    The fucking

    Government's

    JOB

    To support you!


    Get it? Idiot stick!

    We have a fucking ENTITLEMENT society right now that would NEVER survive the revolution, the frontier, the dust bowl, or even the fucking 50s!
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    HEY DUMB FUCK, this country doesn't belong to a select group to run it as their own.

    So why did they need to pass those tax cuts under republicans that they have said will create jobs if the money is put in their hands. Oh thats right it's their money and they own nothing more than anyone else, as matter of fact those who don't earn enough aren't doing their share as they don't pay enough.

    And yes whether you want to lie about it, the tax cuts that mainly go to the rich were sold on the FACT THAT THEY WOULD CREATE JOBS.

    OH BUT WE GET IT< IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JOBS, IT"S YOU BELIEVE ITS YOUR's AN WE SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE ANY FROM YOU.

    We had a name for you guys when I grew up, it was spoiled brats, who want everything and didn't care about anyone else, YES SPOILED BRATS.
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    And I can guarantee you that a shit head like you wouldn't survive, you would be squashed like the worm you are.
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    There have been no tax cuts in many years. Why do liberals have to lie and act as if "the rich" are paying less taxes than everyone else? Fact is their tax RATES are much higher than everyone eleses. Even if everyone had the same tax rate, the upper class would still be paying a lot more taxes than anyone else.

    What BENEFITS people more? A job or a government handout?
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    Cutting taxes would be great. I'd love to have more money in my paycheck. Not sure why you think being affected by allowing me to keep more of my hard earned money would be a bad thing.
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    This has been covered so many times its getting a little old.
    The Libs think that if you make money somebody else must have lost money.
    When in fact the only reason you dont make it in life is because your a lazy slob.
    The Libs think it's OK to confiscate your hard earned money by way of taxs and give it to the lazy slob.
    I live when the Libs scream "where is my fair share" !!!!! It's out there....you just have to work for it.
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    We need to keep taxes through the roof as there are now until we pay off the debt that the last 30 presidents/Congresses have racked up, while cutting spending by about 90%.

    Then we should cut taxes by about 90%, however economic freedom isn't something bureacrats want the people to have or certain big businesses who buy off those same bureacrats.

    Economic freedom for the masses means less control for the tiny groups who have power over them.
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    The rich don't get tax cuts. The Rich pay their taxes. Fifty percent of Americans, whom I guess we can classify as "poor" get tax cuts really big tax cuts,, cause they pay ZERO FEDERAL INCOME taxes and most of the time get "REFUNDS" on the taxes they don't pay..:lol::lol::lol: you communist bastards need a new story I think.. :lol::lol::lol::lol:
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    And yet in the noble effort to accomplish this fairness the reality of government is that it creates exactly that hierarchy that it set out to avoid and the more it creates that hierarchy the more it tries and the more hierarchy it creates.

    Why? Because the way to prevent the hierarchy is through choice. Choice of consumers, choice of labor. Only government can remove choice and it does. Which creates that which it set out to avoid. You can spin and rationalize and justify what you're doing and why, but until you open your eyes to the reality of your efforts, you and yours will continue to foster what you are fighting.
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    But wait, Kaz, taxes are lower than they've been in 60 years; and have been for the last 10 years. Why is the economy in the crapper?
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    You're wrong bud. It has nothing to do with greed or one group trying keep another group down. It's that, as another said, it is not government's job to provide for your standard of living. That's YOUR job. So stop your insolent pssing and moaning, go out, and DO YOUR FUCKING JOB.
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    Hip HIp Hooray,, he needs to get his lazy ass off the internet and go get a job.
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