Current law and police work catch guys selling illegal guns in Chicago, no new laws needed...

[2aguy]

Here you go.....we already have all the laws we need to catch people selling illegal guns....we don't need to register guns, we don't need to have universal background checks......we can already catch people who are selling guns for profit to criminals.......

Try to understand that, anti gunners.....




Five indicted in Michigan to Chicago straw purchasing scheme

Five men have been indicted in a straw purchasing scheme that brought at least nine handguns from Michigan to Chicago, the U.S. Attorney’s Office announced Tuesday.

The indictment alleges Michigan residents Cornelius Battle and Dalrick Drain bought guns from licensed dealers in Kalamazoo, Michigan, and then sold them to Chicago resident Nathaniel McElroy for higher prices. Battle and Drain allegedly falsified information on the required paperwork, saying they were buying the guns for themselves.

 

[BULLDOG]

Yes, those were what is known as straw purchasers. Not the same as individual sellers who can legally sell their guns to anybody without any background check, paperwork, or records of any kind. They aren't even required to ask the purchaser's name.

 

[2aguy]

Yes, those were what is known as straw purchasers. Not the same as individual sellers who can legally sell their guns to anybody without any background check, paperwork, or records of any kind. They aren't even required to ask the purchaser's name.

And of course you have no idea what you are talking about with this issue.....the criminal buying the gun....can already be arrested for buying the gun....using current laws and current police work. Selling private property is not a crime.....you want to make it a crime. The anti gun leadership want to use universal background checks to get universal gun registration...they could give a rats ass about criminals getting guns from private sellers....all they want is to get universal background checks so that they can then demand universal gun registration...you can't have universal background checks without registering all guns...other wise you won't know who originally had the gun.

And criminals will still get guns even if you mandated a background check for private sales......these guys...they went to a licensed gun dealer....filled out the paperwork, went through the background check, the gun store kept records of the sale....

And the licensed gun dealer even asked them their names......and they even told the dealer their names....

And they took those legally purchased guns, having gone through all of your hoops....and sold the guns to felons......

Universal background checks will be passed by the same people because they can pass background checks....criminals will use those people to buy their guns and if they want a gun a private seller has, they will use friends and family and other straw buyers who can already pass background checks...making your post silly and pointless....

 

[BULLDOG]

Yes, those were what is known as straw purchasers. Not the same as individual sellers who can legally sell their guns to anybody without any background check, paperwork, or records of any kind. They aren't even required to ask the purchaser's name.

And of course you have no idea what you are talking about with this issue.....the criminal buying the gun....can already be arrested for buying the gun....using current laws and current police work. Selling private property is not a crime.....you want to make it a crime. The anti gun leadership want to use universal background checks to get universal gun registration...they could give a rats ass about criminals getting guns from private sellers....all they want is to get universal background checks so that they can then demand universal gun registration...you can't have universal background checks without registering all guns...other wise you won't know who originally had the gun.

And criminals will still get guns even if you mandated a background check for private sales......these guys...they went to a licensed gun dealer....filled out the paperwork, went through the background check, the gun store kept records of the sale....

And the licensed gun dealer even asked them their names......and they even told the dealer their names....

And they took those legally purchased guns, having gone through all of your hoops....and sold the guns to felons......

Universal background checks will be passed by the same people because they can pass background checks....criminals will use those people to buy their guns and if they want a gun a private seller has, they will use friends and family and other straw buyers who can already pass background checks...making your post silly and pointless....

Who wants people to stop selling private property? I just want to keep people who can't legally buy guns from buying guns. Universal background checks will help with that.

 

[2aguy]

Yes, those were what is known as straw purchasers. Not the same as individual sellers who can legally sell their guns to anybody without any background check, paperwork, or records of any kind. They aren't even required to ask the purchaser's name.

And of course you have no idea what you are talking about with this issue.....the criminal buying the gun....can already be arrested for buying the gun....using current laws and current police work. Selling private property is not a crime.....you want to make it a crime. The anti gun leadership want to use universal background checks to get universal gun registration...they could give a rats ass about criminals getting guns from private sellers....all they want is to get universal background checks so that they can then demand universal gun registration...you can't have universal background checks without registering all guns...other wise you won't know who originally had the gun.

And criminals will still get guns even if you mandated a background check for private sales......these guys...they went to a licensed gun dealer....filled out the paperwork, went through the background check, the gun store kept records of the sale....

And the licensed gun dealer even asked them their names......and they even told the dealer their names....

And they took those legally purchased guns, having gone through all of your hoops....and sold the guns to felons......

Universal background checks will be passed by the same people because they can pass background checks....criminals will use those people to buy their guns and if they want a gun a private seller has, they will use friends and family and other straw buyers who can already pass background checks...making your post silly and pointless....

Who wants people to stop selling private property? I just want to keep people who can't legally buy guns from buying guns. Universal background checks will help with that.

No....you want to keep normal, law abiding citizens from selling their guns....criminals can already be arrested for buying, owning or carrying a gun...we can do that right now, under current law.

Universal background checks will not help with that...the same way current, federally mandated background checks did not stop these guys from selling guns to criminals.....did you read the post? Because that seems to have gotten past you....

 

[2aguy]

Yes, those were what is known as straw purchasers. Not the same as individual sellers who can legally sell their guns to anybody without any background check, paperwork, or records of any kind. They aren't even required to ask the purchaser's name.

And of course you have no idea what you are talking about with this issue.....the criminal buying the gun....can already be arrested for buying the gun....using current laws and current police work. Selling private property is not a crime.....you want to make it a crime. The anti gun leadership want to use universal background checks to get universal gun registration...they could give a rats ass about criminals getting guns from private sellers....all they want is to get universal background checks so that they can then demand universal gun registration...you can't have universal background checks without registering all guns...other wise you won't know who originally had the gun.

And criminals will still get guns even if you mandated a background check for private sales......these guys...they went to a licensed gun dealer....filled out the paperwork, went through the background check, the gun store kept records of the sale....

And the licensed gun dealer even asked them their names......and they even told the dealer their names....

And they took those legally purchased guns, having gone through all of your hoops....and sold the guns to felons......

Universal background checks will be passed by the same people because they can pass background checks....criminals will use those people to buy their guns and if they want a gun a private seller has, they will use friends and family and other straw buyers who can already pass background checks...making your post silly and pointless....

Who wants people to stop selling private property? I just want to keep people who can't legally buy guns from buying guns. Universal background checks will help with that.

How will universal background checks work?

To repeat...

These guys...passed current, federally mandated background checks.....they filled out paperwork, they even gave the gun store their actual names....and they went with their guns that they took a background check to get, and sold them to criminals.......

 

[BULLDOG]

Yes, those were what is known as straw purchasers. Not the same as individual sellers who can legally sell their guns to anybody without any background check, paperwork, or records of any kind. They aren't even required to ask the purchaser's name.

And of course you have no idea what you are talking about with this issue.....the criminal buying the gun....can already be arrested for buying the gun....using current laws and current police work. Selling private property is not a crime.....you want to make it a crime. The anti gun leadership want to use universal background checks to get universal gun registration...they could give a rats ass about criminals getting guns from private sellers....all they want is to get universal background checks so that they can then demand universal gun registration...you can't have universal background checks without registering all guns...other wise you won't know who originally had the gun.

And criminals will still get guns even if you mandated a background check for private sales......these guys...they went to a licensed gun dealer....filled out the paperwork, went through the background check, the gun store kept records of the sale....

And the licensed gun dealer even asked them their names......and they even told the dealer their names....

And they took those legally purchased guns, having gone through all of your hoops....and sold the guns to felons......

Universal background checks will be passed by the same people because they can pass background checks....criminals will use those people to buy their guns and if they want a gun a private seller has, they will use friends and family and other straw buyers who can already pass background checks...making your post silly and pointless....

Who wants people to stop selling private property? I just want to keep people who can't legally buy guns from buying guns. Universal background checks will help with that.

No....you want to keep normal, law abiding citizens from selling their guns....criminals can already be arrested for buying, owning or carrying a gun...we can do that right now, under current law.

Universal background checks will not help with that...the same way current, federally mandated background checks did not stop these guys from selling guns to criminals.....did you read the post? Because that seems to have gotten past you....

Don't try to tell me what I want, you idiot. You have enough trouble figuring out what you want.

 

[BULLDOG]

Yes, those were what is known as straw purchasers. Not the same as individual sellers who can legally sell their guns to anybody without any background check, paperwork, or records of any kind. They aren't even required to ask the purchaser's name.

And of course you have no idea what you are talking about with this issue.....the criminal buying the gun....can already be arrested for buying the gun....using current laws and current police work. Selling private property is not a crime.....you want to make it a crime. The anti gun leadership want to use universal background checks to get universal gun registration...they could give a rats ass about criminals getting guns from private sellers....all they want is to get universal background checks so that they can then demand universal gun registration...you can't have universal background checks without registering all guns...other wise you won't know who originally had the gun.

And criminals will still get guns even if you mandated a background check for private sales......these guys...they went to a licensed gun dealer....filled out the paperwork, went through the background check, the gun store kept records of the sale....

And the licensed gun dealer even asked them their names......and they even told the dealer their names....

And they took those legally purchased guns, having gone through all of your hoops....and sold the guns to felons......

Universal background checks will be passed by the same people because they can pass background checks....criminals will use those people to buy their guns and if they want a gun a private seller has, they will use friends and family and other straw buyers who can already pass background checks...making your post silly and pointless....

Who wants people to stop selling private property? I just want to keep people who can't legally buy guns from buying guns. Universal background checks will help with that.

How will universal background checks work?

To repeat...

These guys...passed current, federally mandated background checks.....they filled out paperwork, they even gave the gun store their actual names....and they went with their guns that they took a background check to get, and sold them to criminals.......

#6

 

[2aguy]

Yes, those were what is known as straw purchasers. Not the same as individual sellers who can legally sell their guns to anybody without any background check, paperwork, or records of any kind. They aren't even required to ask the purchaser's name.

And of course you have no idea what you are talking about with this issue.....the criminal buying the gun....can already be arrested for buying the gun....using current laws and current police work. Selling private property is not a crime.....you want to make it a crime. The anti gun leadership want to use universal background checks to get universal gun registration...they could give a rats ass about criminals getting guns from private sellers....all they want is to get universal background checks so that they can then demand universal gun registration...you can't have universal background checks without registering all guns...other wise you won't know who originally had the gun.

And criminals will still get guns even if you mandated a background check for private sales......these guys...they went to a licensed gun dealer....filled out the paperwork, went through the background check, the gun store kept records of the sale....

And the licensed gun dealer even asked them their names......and they even told the dealer their names....

And they took those legally purchased guns, having gone through all of your hoops....and sold the guns to felons......

Universal background checks will be passed by the same people because they can pass background checks....criminals will use those people to buy their guns and if they want a gun a private seller has, they will use friends and family and other straw buyers who can already pass background checks...making your post silly and pointless....

Who wants people to stop selling private property? I just want to keep people who can't legally buy guns from buying guns. Universal background checks will help with that.

How will universal background checks work?

To repeat...

These guys...passed current, federally mandated background checks.....they filled out paperwork, they even gave the gun store their actual names....and they went with their guns that they took a background check to get, and sold them to criminals.......

#6

Yes....I know....you can't answer this question because universal background checks are everything I said they are.....but thanks for playing.

 

[BULLDOG]

Yes, those were what is known as straw purchasers. Not the same as individual sellers who can legally sell their guns to anybody without any background check, paperwork, or records of any kind. They aren't even required to ask the purchaser's name.

And of course you have no idea what you are talking about with this issue.....the criminal buying the gun....can already be arrested for buying the gun....using current laws and current police work. Selling private property is not a crime.....you want to make it a crime. The anti gun leadership want to use universal background checks to get universal gun registration...they could give a rats ass about criminals getting guns from private sellers....all they want is to get universal background checks so that they can then demand universal gun registration...you can't have universal background checks without registering all guns...other wise you won't know who originally had the gun.

And criminals will still get guns even if you mandated a background check for private sales......these guys...they went to a licensed gun dealer....filled out the paperwork, went through the background check, the gun store kept records of the sale....

And the licensed gun dealer even asked them their names......and they even told the dealer their names....

And they took those legally purchased guns, having gone through all of your hoops....and sold the guns to felons......

Universal background checks will be passed by the same people because they can pass background checks....criminals will use those people to buy their guns and if they want a gun a private seller has, they will use friends and family and other straw buyers who can already pass background checks...making your post silly and pointless....

Who wants people to stop selling private property? I just want to keep people who can't legally buy guns from buying guns. Universal background checks will help with that.

How will universal background checks work?

To repeat...

These guys...passed current, federally mandated background checks.....they filled out paperwork, they even gave the gun store their actual names....and they went with their guns that they took a background check to get, and sold them to criminals.......

#6

Yes....I know....you can't answer this question because universal background checks are everything I said they are.....but thanks for playing.

I've answered that question for you at least a couple of dozen times. Looks like I need to start numbering my answers to you, since you keep asking the same ones, and I keep answering them so often

 

[2aguy]

And of course you have no idea what you are talking about with this issue.....the criminal buying the gun....can already be arrested for buying the gun....using current laws and current police work. Selling private property is not a crime.....you want to make it a crime. The anti gun leadership want to use universal background checks to get universal gun registration...they could give a rats ass about criminals getting guns from private sellers....all they want is to get universal background checks so that they can then demand universal gun registration...you can't have universal background checks without registering all guns...other wise you won't know who originally had the gun.

And criminals will still get guns even if you mandated a background check for private sales......these guys...they went to a licensed gun dealer....filled out the paperwork, went through the background check, the gun store kept records of the sale....

And the licensed gun dealer even asked them their names......and they even told the dealer their names....

And they took those legally purchased guns, having gone through all of your hoops....and sold the guns to felons......

Universal background checks will be passed by the same people because they can pass background checks....criminals will use those people to buy their guns and if they want a gun a private seller has, they will use friends and family and other straw buyers who can already pass background checks...making your post silly and pointless....

Who wants people to stop selling private property? I just want to keep people who can't legally buy guns from buying guns. Universal background checks will help with that.

How will universal background checks work?

To repeat...

These guys...passed current, federally mandated background checks.....they filled out paperwork, they even gave the gun store their actual names....and they went with their guns that they took a background check to get, and sold them to criminals.......

#6

Yes....I know....you can't answer this question because universal background checks are everything I said they are.....but thanks for playing.

I've answered that question for you at least a couple of dozen times. Looks like I need to start numbering my answers to you, since you keep asking the same ones, and I keep answering them so often

No...you never answer that question.....you can't say, pixy dust will solve the gun problem...and then asked how will pixie dust solve the gun problem, restate....pixie dust will solve the gun problem.

That is all you do...you say "universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns...." Then, when asked, how it will do that, you say "universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns....'' Repeat......I show you over and over that they won't do anything......and you answer "Universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns...."

You actually have to answer the question with information...not just repeat the empty phrase....

 

[BULLDOG]

Who wants people to stop selling private property? I just want to keep people who can't legally buy guns from buying guns. Universal background checks will help with that.

How will universal background checks work?

To repeat...

These guys...passed current, federally mandated background checks.....they filled out paperwork, they even gave the gun store their actual names....and they went with their guns that they took a background check to get, and sold them to criminals.......

#6

Yes....I know....you can't answer this question because universal background checks are everything I said they are.....but thanks for playing.

I've answered that question for you at least a couple of dozen times. Looks like I need to start numbering my answers to you, since you keep asking the same ones, and I keep answering them so often

No...you never answer that question.....you can't say, pixy dust will solve the gun problem...and then asked how will pixie dust solve the gun problem, restate....pixie dust will solve the gun problem.

That is all you do...you say "universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns...." Then, when asked, how it will do that, you say "universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns....'' Repeat......I show you over and over that they won't do anything......and you answer "Universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns...."

You actually have to answer the question with information...not just repeat the empty phrase....

You're fun to poke occasionally, but your style of crazy gets old soon.

 

[2aguy]

How will universal background checks work?

To repeat...

These guys...passed current, federally mandated background checks.....they filled out paperwork, they even gave the gun store their actual names....and they went with their guns that they took a background check to get, and sold them to criminals.......

#6

Yes....I know....you can't answer this question because universal background checks are everything I said they are.....but thanks for playing.

I've answered that question for you at least a couple of dozen times. Looks like I need to start numbering my answers to you, since you keep asking the same ones, and I keep answering them so often

No...you never answer that question.....you can't say, pixy dust will solve the gun problem...and then asked how will pixie dust solve the gun problem, restate....pixie dust will solve the gun problem.

That is all you do...you say "universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns...." Then, when asked, how it will do that, you say "universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns....'' Repeat......I show you over and over that they won't do anything......and you answer "Universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns...."

You actually have to answer the question with information...not just repeat the empty phrase....

You're fun to poke occasionally, but your style of crazy gets old soon.

and you still didn't answer how universal background checks will actually work any better than current federally mandated background checks work.....

 

[2aguy]

How will universal background checks work?

To repeat...

These guys...passed current, federally mandated background checks.....they filled out paperwork, they even gave the gun store their actual names....and they went with their guns that they took a background check to get, and sold them to criminals.......

#6

Yes....I know....you can't answer this question because universal background checks are everything I said they are.....but thanks for playing.

I've answered that question for you at least a couple of dozen times. Looks like I need to start numbering my answers to you, since you keep asking the same ones, and I keep answering them so often

No...you never answer that question.....you can't say, pixy dust will solve the gun problem...and then asked how will pixie dust solve the gun problem, restate....pixie dust will solve the gun problem.

That is all you do...you say "universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns...." Then, when asked, how it will do that, you say "universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns....'' Repeat......I show you over and over that they won't do anything......and you answer "Universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns...."

You actually have to answer the question with information...not just repeat the empty phrase....

You're fun to poke occasionally, but your style of crazy gets old soon.

I bet you think BRAWNDO is what plants want too.......

 

[BULLDOG]

#6

Yes....I know....you can't answer this question because universal background checks are everything I said they are.....but thanks for playing.

I've answered that question for you at least a couple of dozen times. Looks like I need to start numbering my answers to you, since you keep asking the same ones, and I keep answering them so often

No...you never answer that question.....you can't say, pixy dust will solve the gun problem...and then asked how will pixie dust solve the gun problem, restate....pixie dust will solve the gun problem.

That is all you do...you say "universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns...." Then, when asked, how it will do that, you say "universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns....'' Repeat......I show you over and over that they won't do anything......and you answer "Universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns...."

You actually have to answer the question with information...not just repeat the empty phrase....

You're fun to poke occasionally, but your style of crazy gets old soon.

and you still didn't answer how universal background checks will actually work any better than current federally mandated background checks work.....

Didn't say they would work better. I said they would work in addition to current background checks. The more purchasers are checked, the more guns are kept out of bad guy's hands.

 

[BULLDOG]

#6

Yes....I know....you can't answer this question because universal background checks are everything I said they are.....but thanks for playing.

I've answered that question for you at least a couple of dozen times. Looks like I need to start numbering my answers to you, since you keep asking the same ones, and I keep answering them so often

No...you never answer that question.....you can't say, pixy dust will solve the gun problem...and then asked how will pixie dust solve the gun problem, restate....pixie dust will solve the gun problem.

That is all you do...you say "universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns...." Then, when asked, how it will do that, you say "universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns....'' Repeat......I show you over and over that they won't do anything......and you answer "Universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns...."

You actually have to answer the question with information...not just repeat the empty phrase....

You're fun to poke occasionally, but your style of crazy gets old soon.

I bet you think BRAWNDO is what plants want too.......

I'm sure you bet on a lot of stupid shit.

 

[2aguy]

Yes....I know....you can't answer this question because universal background checks are everything I said they are.....but thanks for playing.

I've answered that question for you at least a couple of dozen times. Looks like I need to start numbering my answers to you, since you keep asking the same ones, and I keep answering them so often

No...you never answer that question.....you can't say, pixy dust will solve the gun problem...and then asked how will pixie dust solve the gun problem, restate....pixie dust will solve the gun problem.

That is all you do...you say "universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns...." Then, when asked, how it will do that, you say "universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns....'' Repeat......I show you over and over that they won't do anything......and you answer "Universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns...."

You actually have to answer the question with information...not just repeat the empty phrase....

You're fun to poke occasionally, but your style of crazy gets old soon.

and you still didn't answer how universal background checks will actually work any better than current federally mandated background checks work.....

Didn't say they would work better. I said they would work in addition to current background checks. The more purchasers are checked, the more guns are kept out of bad guy's hands.

And I have shown this isn't true......as this thread shows......as Chicago shows...and the 9,616 gun murders in the country show.....as Baltimore, D.C......and all the other cities show...criminals are not stopped by background checks......they won't be stopped by universal background checks...

 

[miketx]

Yes, those were what is known as straw purchasers. Not the same as individual sellers who can legally sell their guns to anybody without any background check, paperwork, or records of any kind. They aren't even required to ask the purchaser's name.

And of course you have no idea what you are talking about with this issue.....the criminal buying the gun....can already be arrested for buying the gun....using current laws and current police work. Selling private property is not a crime.....you want to make it a crime. The anti gun leadership want to use universal background checks to get universal gun registration...they could give a rats ass about criminals getting guns from private sellers....all they want is to get universal background checks so that they can then demand universal gun registration...you can't have universal background checks without registering all guns...other wise you won't know who originally had the gun.

And criminals will still get guns even if you mandated a background check for private sales......these guys...they went to a licensed gun dealer....filled out the paperwork, went through the background check, the gun store kept records of the sale....

And the licensed gun dealer even asked them their names......and they even told the dealer their names....

And they took those legally purchased guns, having gone through all of your hoops....and sold the guns to felons......

Universal background checks will be passed by the same people because they can pass background checks....criminals will use those people to buy their guns and if they want a gun a private seller has, they will use friends and family and other straw buyers who can already pass background checks...making your post silly and pointless....

Who wants people to stop selling private property? I just want to keep people who can't legally buy guns from buying guns. Universal background checks will help with that.

Yeah right. Except when they don't do the check and sell the gun anyway.

 

[BULLDOG]

I've answered that question for you at least a couple of dozen times. Looks like I need to start numbering my answers to you, since you keep asking the same ones, and I keep answering them so often

No...you never answer that question.....you can't say, pixy dust will solve the gun problem...and then asked how will pixie dust solve the gun problem, restate....pixie dust will solve the gun problem.

That is all you do...you say "universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns...." Then, when asked, how it will do that, you say "universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns....'' Repeat......I show you over and over that they won't do anything......and you answer "Universal background checks will help stop criminals from getting guns...."

You actually have to answer the question with information...not just repeat the empty phrase....

You're fun to poke occasionally, but your style of crazy gets old soon.

and you still didn't answer how universal background checks will actually work any better than current federally mandated background checks work.....

Didn't say they would work better. I said they would work in addition to current background checks. The more purchasers are checked, the more guns are kept out of bad guy's hands.

And I have shown this isn't true......as this thread shows......as Chicago shows...and the 9,616 gun murders in the country show.....as Baltimore, D.C......and all the other cities show...criminals are not stopped by background checks......they won't be stopped by universal background checks...

#2

 

[BULLDOG]

Yes, those were what is known as straw purchasers. Not the same as individual sellers who can legally sell their guns to anybody without any background check, paperwork, or records of any kind. They aren't even required to ask the purchaser's name.

And of course you have no idea what you are talking about with this issue.....the criminal buying the gun....can already be arrested for buying the gun....using current laws and current police work. Selling private property is not a crime.....you want to make it a crime. The anti gun leadership want to use universal background checks to get universal gun registration...they could give a rats ass about criminals getting guns from private sellers....all they want is to get universal background checks so that they can then demand universal gun registration...you can't have universal background checks without registering all guns...other wise you won't know who originally had the gun.

And criminals will still get guns even if you mandated a background check for private sales......these guys...they went to a licensed gun dealer....filled out the paperwork, went through the background check, the gun store kept records of the sale....

And the licensed gun dealer even asked them their names......and they even told the dealer their names....

And they took those legally purchased guns, having gone through all of your hoops....and sold the guns to felons......

Universal background checks will be passed by the same people because they can pass background checks....criminals will use those people to buy their guns and if they want a gun a private seller has, they will use friends and family and other straw buyers who can already pass background checks...making your post silly and pointless....

Who wants people to stop selling private property? I just want to keep people who can't legally buy guns from buying guns. Universal background checks will help with that.

Yeah right. Except when they don't do the check and sell the gun anyway.

That's what they are doing now. There is no requirement to do a check for person to person sales.