Curfew in Chicago

[chanel]

CHICAGO (STMW) - Parents who let their kids under 12 stay out past 8:30 p.m. on weekdays and 9 p.m. on weekends will pay a heavy price beginning Sept. 18, under a City Council crackdown launched Thursday at the urging of Mayor Rahm Emanuel and Police Supt. Garry McCarthy.

“I grew up with a curfew,” Emanuel said earlier this week. “When the lights on the street went on, you took your tail and made it home and in the house. And that’s what I believe is the right policy for the safety and security of our kids.

“It doesn’t mean that, because you have, kids are gonna be safe. But it means that we’re aligning good parenting and the laws of the city to make sure that our children are gonna be safe.”

WLS 890AM

Good idea?

 

[Si modo]

I had the same rules - street lights went on and you better be back at home. But, that was what MY parents did. I think all parents should do the same. But, should a government make it a law?

No.

 

[martybegan]

CHICAGO (STMW) - Parents who let their kids under 12 stay out past 8:30 p.m. on weekdays and 9 p.m. on weekends will pay a heavy price beginning Sept. 18, under a City Council crackdown launched Thursday at the urging of Mayor Rahm Emanuel and Police Supt. Garry McCarthy.

“I grew up with a curfew,” Emanuel said earlier this week. “When the lights on the street went on, you took your tail and made it home and in the house. And that’s what I believe is the right policy for the safety and security of our kids.

“It doesn’t mean that, because you have, kids are gonna be safe. But it means that we’re aligning good parenting and the laws of the city to make sure that our children are gonna be safe.”

WLS 890AM

Good idea?

Just more government takeover of parental responsibilites.

Considering the time when it gets dark changes daily from 4 PM to 9 PM the reference to the street lights coming on is kind of silly.

Just more typical "lets do something to make the poeple we are doing something" legislation that will have zero impact on crime.

 

[Tank]

Somebody has to parent these black kids.

 

[blastoff]

Even though curfew sounds good to me I'm curious this day in age about the legality of such laws. Seems like lots of things are considered a violation of peoples' rights in some way, shape, or form, so is some lawyer gonna test curfew laws in Chicago or elsewhere?

 

[Two Thumbs]

CHICAGO (STMW) - Parents who let their kids under 12 stay out past 8:30 p.m. on weekdays and 9 p.m. on weekends will pay a heavy price beginning Sept. 18, under a City Council crackdown launched Thursday at the urging of Mayor Rahm Emanuel and Police Supt. Garry McCarthy.

“I grew up with a curfew,” Emanuel said earlier this week. “When the lights on the street went on, you took your tail and made it home and in the house. And that’s what I believe is the right policy for the safety and security of our kids.

“It doesn’t mean that, because you have, kids are gonna be safe. But it means that we’re aligning good parenting and the laws of the city to make sure that our children are gonna be safe.”

WLS 890AM

Good idea?

curfews are nothing short of tyranny.

It's the city telling parents how to parent and it conditions the kids to do as the government says.

I knew when to be home, my parents made that very clear.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Why do liberals hate the poor?

 

[B. Kidd]

Curfew would work in Chicago about as much as it would work in Juarez.

 

[waltky]

Guess the gangstas haven't made a New Year's resolution to stop shootin' people...

Despite New Year, Chicago Violence Continues
January 23, 2017 - There were three multiple-victim shootings this weekend on the streets of Chicago.

Tucked into the third row of a minivan, talking on FaceTime with a friend, Angela Wojcik wasn't paying much attention to the conversation of her boyfriend and his acquaintances in the front of the vehicle as it sat parked in West Town on Sunday morning. That was until the percussion of gunfire began shortly before 9 a.m. "The driver was bleeding from the mouth," said Wojcik, who lives in the suburbs and spent the previous night out at various clubs in the city. Police later identified the driver as a 26-year-old man who was shot in the lip. "It was blood over his whole face. It was so surreal," Wojcik said. Her boyfriend, 30, was hit twice in the right calf. The front passenger, who police said was a 25-year-old man shot in the left shoulder, appeared to be in the worst condition of the three, Wojcik said. "No one screamed," Wojcik said. "But I was FaceTiming with my friend Robert, and he was freaking out."

All three were taken to Stroger Hospital, where their conditions were stabilized, police said. It was the second triple shooting of the morning Sunday. The other happened around 6:30 a.m. Hours later there was another shooting with multiple victims, this one leaving four people wounded at 12:15 p.m. in the 1800 block of West 63rd Street in the Englewood neighborhood. In all, 10 people were wounded in multiple-victim shootings within less than six hours Sunday morning and early Sunday afternoon. "We've had quite a few multiple-victim incidents this weekend," said Officer Jose Estrada, a Chicago police spokesman. There were six triple shootings from Friday afternoon to early Sunday afternoon, in addition to the quadruple shooting.

Police investigate the scene on the 1500 block of West Huron Street in Chicago, Ill. where three people were shot​

The most seriously injured in the Englewood shooting was a 26-year-old man who suffered a gunshot wound to the right eye and was taken by a family member to St. Bernard Hospital before being transferred to Stroger Hospital in critical condition, police said. The others wounded were: Another 26-year-old man, shot in the right buttocks and left foot; a 56-year-old woman, shot multiple times in the left leg; and a 48-year-old woman shot in the right hip. All three were taken to Advocate Christ Medical Center, where their conditions were stabilized. The four were in a convenience store when they heard gunshots and ran outside, where four armed men or boys shot them, police said. The four attackers got into a white sedan and fled the scene. No one was in custody.

In the first of the three multiple-victim attacks, three people were shot about 6:30 a.m. Sunday in the 3500 block of South Calumet Avenue in the Ida B. Wells/Darrow Homes neighborhood, according to police, correcting earlier information that the shooting happened on Rhodes Avenue. A 22-year-old man was shot in the left leg and was taken by a friend to Mercy Hospital. He was later transferred to Stroger Hospital, where his condition was stabilized. A 24-year-old man was shot in the left leg, and his condition was stabilized at Northwestern Memorial Hospital. A 23-year-old woman was shot in the leg, and her condition was stabilized at Northwestern Memorial Hospital. The victims weren't being cooperative, and police had no narrative information on the shooting.

Other shootings:

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Just build trumpian walls around all of the bad neighborhoods and airdrop food and provisions periodically. They're all already on welfare anyway. Let Mexico pay for those walls, too.
Escape From New York kinda thing.

 

[waltky]

Granny says, "Dat's right - send in the Nat'l. Guard an' put `em under martial law...

Chicago mayor welcomes help, warns against deploying troops
January 25, 2017 — A day after President Donald Trump declared he was ready to "send in the Feds" if Chicago can't reduce its homicides, Mayor Rahm Emanuel warned against deploying the National Guard, saying it would hurt efforts to restore trust in the police.

Trump offered no details on what kind of federal intervention he was suggesting or if it could involve troops, but the mayor cautioned that using the military could make matters worse. "We're going through a process of reinvigorating community policing, building trust between the community and law enforcement," the mayor told reporters Wednesday. Sending troops "is antithetical to the spirit of community policing." He said he welcomed federal help battling "gangs, guns and drugs." On Tuesday night, Trump tweeted: "If Chicago doesn't fix the horrible 'carnage' going on, 228 shootings in 2017 with 42 killings (up 24% from 2016), I will send in the Feds!" If the president was suggesting the use of federal troops, such a plan could face practical and constitutional obstacles. A law dating back to 1878 prohibits the deployment of federal troops to do the jobs of domestic police, with some rarely invoked exceptions. In his campaign, Trump talked regularly about getting tough on crime, sometimes singling out Chicago, which was in the midst of a year in which the death toll soared to 762 — the most killings in the city in nearly two decades and more than New York and Los Angeles combined.

His tweet also came less than two weeks after the Justice Department issued a scathing report that found years of civil rights violations by Chicago police. The investigation was launched after the release of a video showing the 2014 death of a black teenager who was shot 16 times by a white officer. The Justice Department documented cases in which officers shot people who did not pose a threat and used stun guns for no other reason except that people refused officers' commands. Emanuel, a Democrat who once worked as former President Barack Obama's White House chief of staff, said the police department already partners with federal agencies such as the FBI and the Drug Enforcement Administration to combat crime, including efforts to halt the flow of illegal guns pouring into Chicago from elsewhere. He said he would like to see that cooperation "expanded dramatically." On Tuesday night, the mayor told WTTW's "Chicago Tonight" that he welcomed government assistance in the form of more money to hire officers and more resources to track illegal guns. But he also bluntly said the government has not done nearly enough, something he reiterated on Wednesday.

Over the years, he said, when it comes to after-school activities, summer jobs and other youth programs, the government "has walked away." Trump's tweet came a day after Emanuel criticized Trump for worrying about the size of the crowd at his inauguration. The figures cited by Trump are the same as those published Monday in the Chicago Tribune. The tweet was posted about the time Tuesday evening that the figures were cited on Fox television's "O'Reilly Factor." The numbers were slightly different from the latest tally by the Chicago Police Department. As of Tuesday, police said, 234 people have been shot in 2017, including 38 who died. At this point last year, 227 people had been shot, including 33 deaths. Department spokesman Anthony Guglielmi explained that the department's numbers are slightly different because they do not include shootings by officers, shootings that were considered "justified," such as those that were in self-defense, and shootings that were investigated by state police because they occurred on expressways.

It appears that the president's numbers for homicides came from the county's medical examiner's office, Guglielmi said. Earlier this month, before he took office, Trump tweeted that Emanuel should ask for federal help if he isn't able to bring down the number of homicides. Rep. Luis Gutierrez, a Chicago Democrat, called the president the "tweeter-in-chief" and said Trump would "rather spend his time on Twitter" than look for ways to reduce gun violence. "The president wants publicity and to be seen beating up on Democratic elected officials and appearing hostile to a big city like Chicago in the eyes of his suburban and rural voters," Gutierrez said. Another Chicago Democrat, Rep. Mike Quigley, called Trump's threat "reckless and misguided" and a "gross overreach of federal power." He called on the president to increase funding for federal programs that he said were cut by Republicans but would help local law enforcement. He also called on Trump to support "commonsense, pragmatic gun laws."

Chicago mayor welcomes help, warns against deploying troops

 

[EverCurious]

I don't think it's possible to restore "faith in the police" -- these folks don't want police because most of them are criminals. Thing about criminals is they can be quite charismatic with the public. Gangs, if you think about it, are not much different than a cult, just substitute religion with a high or fast money. I imagine like cults, gangs too have leaders who are able to connect with their people - perhaps not on the same "family" level that old time mobs did, but I presume it's kind of the same deal. What else could inspire these folks to engage in life threatening turf wars and stuff? Ego only goes so far, there has to be a level of respect - be that respect for showing off to someone in the gang or what-have-you.

So you'll not dispel the hatred for police with these folks because the police are a threat to their "family" - taking away the family members freedom or shooting them, it doesn't particularly matter, either way taking out one member ultimately harms the entire family - less able to defend turf, less money coming in from drug sales, tricks, robberies, etc. All of it ultimately "trickles down" in a gang.

 

[waltky]

Chicago's South Shore area is a jungle...

Seven Shot Dead in Four-Block Area of Chicago
April 4, 2017 - Over 12 hours Thursday, seven people were found shot to death within a four-block area of the South Shore neighborhood.

The first call of a person shot dead in the South Shore neighborhood came in shortly after noon Thursday. A woman, four months pregnant, had been found in her home with a gunshot wound to the head, according to Chicago police. Less than four hours later, four men were killed when a gunman opened fire at a chicken and fish restaurant less than five blocks east. Before the day was done, a man and a woman were shot to death just after 11 p.m. in a car in front of the South Shore Cultural Center not far away, police said. “Again in South Shore?” a woman wondered out loud as she walked past the latest crime scene, at 71st Street and South Shore Drive.

Over 12 hours Thursday, seven people were found shot to death within a four-block area of the South Shore neighborhood. The burst of violence brought the number of people shot in Chicago this year to at least 740, according to data collected by the Chicago Tribune. There have been at least 140 homicides. In the latest fatal shooting in South Shore, a couple were in a silver van when a black Jeep pulled alongside and someone inside fired shots, police said. The van slammed into a pole just north of the Metra tracks. Police found a 27-year-old man in the back seat with a gunshot wound to the side of his body, and a 23-year-old woman in the front passenger seat with a gunshot wound to the head. Both were pronounced dead at the scene. A third man in the car was uninjured.

A woman in a White Sox cap ran to the tracks screaming. “That’s my boyfriend!” she cried out. A train approached sounding its horn, and the guard rails began to come down around her. A police officer grabbed her and pulled her off the tracks. The train rolled east, blocking her view of the crashed minivan. Police believe the shooters were targeting one or more people in the van. Seven hours earlier, around 3:50 p.m., four young men were fatally shot at Nadia Fish and Chicken at 2704 E. 75th St., police said. A gunman approached the restaurant and fired shots. It was not clear how many of the four were inside or outside the restaurant at the time. Dillon Jackson, 20, was found dead outside the restaurant. His brother, Raheem Jackson, 19, was found against a tree. Emmanuel Stokes, 28, was inside the restaurant with Edwin Davis, 32.

Just after noon, 26-year-old Patrice L. Calvin, four months pregnant, was found dead less than four blocks away. She had suffered a gunshot wound to the head in a home in the 7500 block of South Luella Avenue. She was pronounced dead at 12:27 p.m., according to the Cook County medical examiner’s office. She lived on the block where police said she was found, according to the office. Relatives exchanged hugs in the rain outside the three-story beige brick apartment building on the southeast corner of 75th and Luella where Calvin had lived. It was not clear whether any of the shootings were related.

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