Cultural Racism Raises It"s Head in Israel

[patrickcaturday]

Israel to triple demolition rate for illegal Bedouin construction

2010 should see 700 illegal structures destroyed and the plowing of 9,000 dunams of land to prevent new construction.
By Yanir Yagna | Feb.18, 2010 | 2:47 AM
The Interior Ministry, the Israel Lands Administration and the southern district of the Israel Police have jointly resolved to triple the demolition rate of illegal construction in the scattered Bedouin communities in the Negev. The decision came at a meeting about a month ago.
According to data obtained by Haaretz, 2009 saw an increase over the previous year in the demolition of illegal Bedouin homes and efforts to prevent illegal Bedouin construction. Last year, 254 structures were destroyed.
In 2008, the figure was 225 illegal structures. Sources at the joint agency meeting said illegal Bedouin construction in the Negev is not only continuing despite these enforcement efforts but is even increasing. This year should see 700 illegal structures destroyed and the deep plowing of 9,000 dunams of land to prevent new construction.
Ibrahim Al-Wakili, who heads the Regional Council of Unrecognized Villages, warned of an explosive situation if demolition even doubles.
"The Bedouin in unrecognized villages don't constitute any kind of obstacle to the development of the Negev, and the state must involve us just as [it does] other residents of the Negev," Al-Wakili said. "Even if they triple the demolitions," he added, "it won't help, if the state has no solution for people who for the past 60 years have suffered neglect. At least they shouldn't begin an intensified demolition campaign. The village residents cannot be put in a situation in which there is just demolition. It won't help. From the moment you press on the balloon too much, ultimately something happens. We call on the prime minister and all of those responsible for the demolitions not to bring people to the brink of despair. This is not healthy for any of the parties [involved]." .....

Israel to triple demolition rate for illegal Bedouin construction - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

Israel panel backs legalizing West Bank outposts
July 9, 2012 RSS Feed Print

By AMY TEIBEL, Associated Press
JERUSALEM (AP) — A government-commissioned report released Monday has recommended that Israel legalize dozens of unsanctioned West Bank settlement outposts, a move that would defy international opposition to settling land Palestinians want for a future state.
The report, written by a committee with pro-settler sympathies, also reaffirmed Israel's longstanding position, at odds with most of the world, that the West Bank is not occupied territory and therefore Israel has the legal right to settle it.
If endorsed by the government, the recommendations could give Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ammunition to support new settlement activity and fend off pressure from a Supreme Court that has ordered the government to take action against the existing outposts.
Netanyahu welcomed the panel's work and said he would bring its conclusions to a special forum that would decide whether to adopt them. Recommendations include annulling past Supreme Court rulings and legal orders to facilitate settlement construction.
Jewish settlements are at the heart of a three-year-old impasse in Mideast peace efforts. The Palestinians say they will not resume negotiations until Israel freezes settlement construction.
The outposts are unsanctioned enclaves that Jewish settlers began erecting in the 1990s to sidestep Israel's commitment to stop building new settlements. There are dozens of outposts, in addition to about 120 full-fledged settlements...
.
...Palestinian spokesman Ghassan Khatib immediately denounced the report's conclusions.
"This is in complete contradiction with international law and with specific resolutions of the United Nations ... and in contradiction with the official policy of almost every single country in the world," Khatib said. "We also think that such positions contradict the international efforts to establish peace based on two states, one of them in the territories occupied in 1967."
Netanyahu set up the committee in January to examine land use issues in the West Bank after concluding that a 2005 report on unauthorized settlement outposts was tainted by leftist bias. The author of the report, which had been commissioned by then-Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, a staunch settlement champion, was a former state prosecutor who ran for parliament on the dovish Meretz Party's ticket after leaving the civil service.
The new committee was headed by former Supreme Court Justice Edmond Levy, who opposed Israel's 2005 Gaza Strip withdrawal. It was considered sympathetic to setters and was expected to issue the recommendation to legalize outposts.
Although they skirted official approval procedures, government officials knew the outposts were being built and supplied them with the infrastructure hookups and military protection given to sanctioned settlements. About 100 outposts, home to several thousand Israelis, dot the West Bank, in addition to more than 120 full-fledged settlements.
The Israeli government had promised the U.S. in 2003 to tear down two dozen outposts built a decade ago but it has never honored that commitment.
The 2005 report on outposts by Talia Sasson was sharply critical of government complicity in their construction and noted that dozens were built on Palestinian-owned land, in violation of Israeli law. Israel's Supreme Court recently rebuffed the Netanyahu government's efforts to preserve one of the outposts, and it is due to be demolished next month. A second outpost was evacuated this month in spite of Netanyahu's efforts to avert the settlers' eviction.
The report made public on Monday proposed that procedures be streamlined to legalize the outposts and allow for new settlement construction. Committee member Alan Baker, a former legal adviser to the Foreign Ministry who is now a fellow at a conservative think-tank, said the outposts were not authorized because of international pressure and urged their approval.
"Nothing here was inherently illegal," he said.

Israel panel backs legalizing West Bank outposts - US News and World Report

If people wish to truly understand the cultural racism that exists in Israeli policy and politics they will examine the above articles with a careful eye. I Have provided links so that the complete articles can be accessed.

To summarize the situation that we are dealing with we must recognize that we are dealing with two different groups of illegal settlements. one Jewish and the other Bedouin. They are not treated equally, the only real difference between the two is that one is of the Jewish Culture and the other is of the Muslim culture. They both concern themselves with Israeli citizens that serve in the IDF and pay taxes. The differences as I stated earlier are ones of politics, policy, and racism.

The Israeli Settlements are illegal under Israeli Law as determined by the Israeli Supreme Court because they are built on land that the Court has ruled is Palestinian. Yet they are provided with the necessary infrastructure, water, electric, and sewage, that are necessary. Also they are defended by the IDF. Also the Netanyahu administration is seeking to overturn the Court's ruling and indeed they are seeking to expand the settlements.

The only reasons that the Bedouin Settlements are illegal are 1) they are not Jewish and 2) they are not given the necessary permits to build permanent structures. They are not provided with the necessary infrastructure in order to provide decent living conditions and the only time they see the IDF is when it is there to demolish their homes. The Netanyahu Administration does not seek to help or work with these people. Indeed the only time these people hear from the government is when it wants to take more of their land or it wants to charge them for the demolition and destruction of their property.

Can anyone give me a good reason why these people are treated so differently by their own government. As far as I can see the only reason is religious identity, and THAT SMACKS OF CULTURAL RACISM !!!

 

[SAYIT]

Israel to triple demolition rate for illegal Bedouin construction

2010 should see 700 illegal structures destroyed and the plowing of 9,000 dunams of land to prevent new construction.
By Yanir Yagna | Feb.18, 2010 | 2:47 AM
The Interior Ministry, the Israel Lands Administration and the southern district of the Israel Police have jointly resolved to triple the demolition rate of illegal construction in the scattered Bedouin communities in the Negev. The decision came at a meeting about a month ago.
According to data obtained by Haaretz, 2009 saw an increase over the previous year in the demolition of illegal Bedouin homes and efforts to prevent illegal Bedouin construction. Last year, 254 structures were destroyed.
In 2008, the figure was 225 illegal structures. Sources at the joint agency meeting said illegal Bedouin construction in the Negev is not only continuing despite these enforcement efforts but is even increasing. This year should see 700 illegal structures destroyed and the deep plowing of 9,000 dunams of land to prevent new construction.
Ibrahim Al-Wakili, who heads the Regional Council of Unrecognized Villages, warned of an explosive situation if demolition even doubles.
"The Bedouin in unrecognized villages don't constitute any kind of obstacle to the development of the Negev, and the state must involve us just as [it does] other residents of the Negev," Al-Wakili said. "Even if they triple the demolitions," he added, "it won't help, if the state has no solution for people who for the past 60 years have suffered neglect. At least they shouldn't begin an intensified demolition campaign. The village residents cannot be put in a situation in which there is just demolition. It won't help. From the moment you press on the balloon too much, ultimately something happens. We call on the prime minister and all of those responsible for the demolitions not to bring people to the brink of despair. This is not healthy for any of the parties [involved]." .....

Israel to triple demolition rate for illegal Bedouin construction - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

Israel panel backs legalizing West Bank outposts
July 9, 2012 RSS Feed Print

By AMY TEIBEL, Associated Press
JERUSALEM (AP) — A government-commissioned report released Monday has recommended that Israel legalize dozens of unsanctioned West Bank settlement outposts, a move that would defy international opposition to settling land Palestinians want for a future state.
The report, written by a committee with pro-settler sympathies, also reaffirmed Israel's longstanding position, at odds with most of the world, that the West Bank is not occupied territory and therefore Israel has the legal right to settle it.
If endorsed by the government, the recommendations could give Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ammunition to support new settlement activity and fend off pressure from a Supreme Court that has ordered the government to take action against the existing outposts.
Netanyahu welcomed the panel's work and said he would bring its conclusions to a special forum that would decide whether to adopt them. Recommendations include annulling past Supreme Court rulings and legal orders to facilitate settlement construction.
Jewish settlements are at the heart of a three-year-old impasse in Mideast peace efforts. The Palestinians say they will not resume negotiations until Israel freezes settlement construction.
The outposts are unsanctioned enclaves that Jewish settlers began erecting in the 1990s to sidestep Israel's commitment to stop building new settlements. There are dozens of outposts, in addition to about 120 full-fledged settlements...
.
...Palestinian spokesman Ghassan Khatib immediately denounced the report's conclusions.
"This is in complete contradiction with international law and with specific resolutions of the United Nations ... and in contradiction with the official policy of almost every single country in the world," Khatib said. "We also think that such positions contradict the international efforts to establish peace based on two states, one of them in the territories occupied in 1967."
Netanyahu set up the committee in January to examine land use issues in the West Bank after concluding that a 2005 report on unauthorized settlement outposts was tainted by leftist bias. The author of the report, which had been commissioned by then-Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, a staunch settlement champion, was a former state prosecutor who ran for parliament on the dovish Meretz Party's ticket after leaving the civil service.
The new committee was headed by former Supreme Court Justice Edmond Levy, who opposed Israel's 2005 Gaza Strip withdrawal. It was considered sympathetic to setters and was expected to issue the recommendation to legalize outposts.
Although they skirted official approval procedures, government officials knew the outposts were being built and supplied them with the infrastructure hookups and military protection given to sanctioned settlements. About 100 outposts, home to several thousand Israelis, dot the West Bank, in addition to more than 120 full-fledged settlements.
The Israeli government had promised the U.S. in 2003 to tear down two dozen outposts built a decade ago but it has never honored that commitment.
The 2005 report on outposts by Talia Sasson was sharply critical of government complicity in their construction and noted that dozens were built on Palestinian-owned land, in violation of Israeli law. Israel's Supreme Court recently rebuffed the Netanyahu government's efforts to preserve one of the outposts, and it is due to be demolished next month. A second outpost was evacuated this month in spite of Netanyahu's efforts to avert the settlers' eviction.
The report made public on Monday proposed that procedures be streamlined to legalize the outposts and allow for new settlement construction. Committee member Alan Baker, a former legal adviser to the Foreign Ministry who is now a fellow at a conservative think-tank, said the outposts were not authorized because of international pressure and urged their approval.
"Nothing here was inherently illegal," he said.

Israel panel backs legalizing West Bank outposts - US News and World Report

If people wish to truly understand the cultural racism that exists in Israeli policy and politics they will examine the above articles with a careful eye. I Have provided links so that the complete articles can be accessed.

To summarize the situation that we are dealing with we must recognize that we are dealing with two different groups of illegal settlements. one Jewish and the other Bedouin. They are not treated equally, the only real difference between the two is that one is of the Jewish Culture and the other is of the Muslim culture. They both concern themselves with Israeli citizens that serve in the IDF and pay taxes. The differences as I stated earlier are ones of politics, policy, and racism.

The Israeli Settlements are illegal under Israeli Law as determined by the Israeli Supreme Court because they are built on land that the Court has ruled is Palestinian. Yet they are provided with the necessary infrastructure, water, electric, and sewage, that are necessary. Also they are defended by the IDF. Also the Netanyahu administration is seeking to overturn the Court's ruling and indeed they are seeking to expand the settlements.

The only reasons that the Bedouin Settlements are illegal are 1) they are not Jewish and 2) they are not given the necessary permits to build permanent structures. They are not provided with the necessary infrastructure in order to provide decent living conditions and the only time they see the IDF is when it is there to demolish their homes. The Netanyahu Administration does not seek to help or work with these people. Indeed the only time these people hear from the government is when it wants to take more of their land or it wants to charge them for the demolition and destruction of their property.

Can anyone give me a good reason why these people are treated so differently by their own government. As far as I can see the only reason is religious identity, and THAT SMACKS OF CULTURAL RACISM !!!

I don't understand your obsession with what you consider to be cultural racism in Israel when it is so prevelant world wide. Your double standard smacks of cutural racism.

 

[patrickcaturday]

Israel to triple demolition rate for illegal Bedouin construction

2010 should see 700 illegal structures destroyed and the plowing of 9,000 dunams of land to prevent new construction.
By Yanir Yagna | Feb.18, 2010 | 2:47 AM
The Interior Ministry, the Israel Lands Administration and the southern district of the Israel Police have jointly resolved to triple the demolition rate of illegal construction in the scattered Bedouin communities in the Negev. The decision came at a meeting about a month ago.
According to data obtained by Haaretz, 2009 saw an increase over the previous year in the demolition of illegal Bedouin homes and efforts to prevent illegal Bedouin construction. Last year, 254 structures were destroyed.
In 2008, the figure was 225 illegal structures. Sources at the joint agency meeting said illegal Bedouin construction in the Negev is not only continuing despite these enforcement efforts but is even increasing. This year should see 700 illegal structures destroyed and the deep plowing of 9,000 dunams of land to prevent new construction.
Ibrahim Al-Wakili, who heads the Regional Council of Unrecognized Villages, warned of an explosive situation if demolition even doubles.
"The Bedouin in unrecognized villages don't constitute any kind of obstacle to the development of the Negev, and the state must involve us just as [it does] other residents of the Negev," Al-Wakili said. "Even if they triple the demolitions," he added, "it won't help, if the state has no solution for people who for the past 60 years have suffered neglect. At least they shouldn't begin an intensified demolition campaign. The village residents cannot be put in a situation in which there is just demolition. It won't help. From the moment you press on the balloon too much, ultimately something happens. We call on the prime minister and all of those responsible for the demolitions not to bring people to the brink of despair. This is not healthy for any of the parties [involved]." .....

Israel to triple demolition rate for illegal Bedouin construction - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

Israel panel backs legalizing West Bank outposts
July 9, 2012 RSS Feed Print

By AMY TEIBEL, Associated Press
JERUSALEM (AP) — A government-commissioned report released Monday has recommended that Israel legalize dozens of unsanctioned West Bank settlement outposts, a move that would defy international opposition to settling land Palestinians want for a future state.
The report, written by a committee with pro-settler sympathies, also reaffirmed Israel's longstanding position, at odds with most of the world, that the West Bank is not occupied territory and therefore Israel has the legal right to settle it.
If endorsed by the government, the recommendations could give Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ammunition to support new settlement activity and fend off pressure from a Supreme Court that has ordered the government to take action against the existing outposts.
Netanyahu welcomed the panel's work and said he would bring its conclusions to a special forum that would decide whether to adopt them. Recommendations include annulling past Supreme Court rulings and legal orders to facilitate settlement construction.
Jewish settlements are at the heart of a three-year-old impasse in Mideast peace efforts. The Palestinians say they will not resume negotiations until Israel freezes settlement construction.
The outposts are unsanctioned enclaves that Jewish settlers began erecting in the 1990s to sidestep Israel's commitment to stop building new settlements. There are dozens of outposts, in addition to about 120 full-fledged settlements...
.
...Palestinian spokesman Ghassan Khatib immediately denounced the report's conclusions.
"This is in complete contradiction with international law and with specific resolutions of the United Nations ... and in contradiction with the official policy of almost every single country in the world," Khatib said. "We also think that such positions contradict the international efforts to establish peace based on two states, one of them in the territories occupied in 1967."
Netanyahu set up the committee in January to examine land use issues in the West Bank after concluding that a 2005 report on unauthorized settlement outposts was tainted by leftist bias. The author of the report, which had been commissioned by then-Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, a staunch settlement champion, was a former state prosecutor who ran for parliament on the dovish Meretz Party's ticket after leaving the civil service.
The new committee was headed by former Supreme Court Justice Edmond Levy, who opposed Israel's 2005 Gaza Strip withdrawal. It was considered sympathetic to setters and was expected to issue the recommendation to legalize outposts.
Although they skirted official approval procedures, government officials knew the outposts were being built and supplied them with the infrastructure hookups and military protection given to sanctioned settlements. About 100 outposts, home to several thousand Israelis, dot the West Bank, in addition to more than 120 full-fledged settlements.
The Israeli government had promised the U.S. in 2003 to tear down two dozen outposts built a decade ago but it has never honored that commitment.
The 2005 report on outposts by Talia Sasson was sharply critical of government complicity in their construction and noted that dozens were built on Palestinian-owned land, in violation of Israeli law. Israel's Supreme Court recently rebuffed the Netanyahu government's efforts to preserve one of the outposts, and it is due to be demolished next month. A second outpost was evacuated this month in spite of Netanyahu's efforts to avert the settlers' eviction.
The report made public on Monday proposed that procedures be streamlined to legalize the outposts and allow for new settlement construction. Committee member Alan Baker, a former legal adviser to the Foreign Ministry who is now a fellow at a conservative think-tank, said the outposts were not authorized because of international pressure and urged their approval.
"Nothing here was inherently illegal," he said.

Israel panel backs legalizing West Bank outposts - US News and World Report

If people wish to truly understand the cultural racism that exists in Israeli policy and politics they will examine the above articles with a careful eye. I Have provided links so that the complete articles can be accessed.

To summarize the situation that we are dealing with we must recognize that we are dealing with two different groups of illegal settlements. one Jewish and the other Bedouin. They are not treated equally, the only real difference between the two is that one is of the Jewish Culture and the other is of the Muslim culture. They both concern themselves with Israeli citizens that serve in the IDF and pay taxes. The differences as I stated earlier are ones of politics, policy, and racism.

The Israeli Settlements are illegal under Israeli Law as determined by the Israeli Supreme Court because they are built on land that the Court has ruled is Palestinian. Yet they are provided with the necessary infrastructure, water, electric, and sewage, that are necessary. Also they are defended by the IDF. Also the Netanyahu administration is seeking to overturn the Court's ruling and indeed they are seeking to expand the settlements.

The only reasons that the Bedouin Settlements are illegal are 1) they are not Jewish and 2) they are not given the necessary permits to build permanent structures. They are not provided with the necessary infrastructure in order to provide decent living conditions and the only time they see the IDF is when it is there to demolish their homes. The Netanyahu Administration does not seek to help or work with these people. Indeed the only time these people hear from the government is when it wants to take more of their land or it wants to charge them for the demolition and destruction of their property.

Can anyone give me a good reason why these people are treated so differently by their own government. As far as I can see the only reason is religious identity, and THAT SMACKS OF CULTURAL RACISM !!!

I don't understand your obsession with what you consider to be cultural racism in Israel when it is so prevelant world wide. Your double standard smacks of cutural racism.

First of all my apologies for the double post but the first one did not have the title correct and I tried to correct it, oh well .

First of all your post is what is ment by killing the messenger, the only reason that I can see that you would do this is that you cannot adress the issues raised in my OP. I am not obsessed with this I am concerned with it all over the world to include but not limited to the Romani in Europe, the People in Rewanda, and the Native Americans in both North America and South America. This does not detract from my concern for the Bedouins as we as US Citizens help pay for their oppression. Now deal with the differences between the two sets of Illegal Settlements or go nitpick someone else.

 

[SAYIT]

I don't understand your obsession with what you consider to be cultural racism in Israel when it is so prevelant world wide. Your double standard smacks of cutural racism.

First of all my apologies for the double post but the first one did not have the title correct and I tried to correct it, oh well .

First of all your post is what is ment by killing the messenger, the only reason that I can see that you would do this is that you cannot adress the issues raised in my OP. I am not obsessed with this I am concerned with it all over the world to include but not limited to the Romani in Europe, the People in Rewanda, and the Native Americans in both North America and South America. This does not detract from my concern for the Bedouins as we as US Citizens help pay for their oppression. Now deal with the differences between the two sets of Illegal Settlements or go nitpick someone else.

First of all, this is a public forum and if you don't like what or how I post, feel free to leave and second of all your "concern" for the Rwandans would ring far more true if you could spell the word. Nah, you're just a one trick pony, Princess.

 

[docmauser1]

Israel to triple demolition rate for illegal Bedouin construction

And the significance of it is, exactly, what?

 

[SAYIT]

I don't understand your obsession with what you consider to be cultural racism in Israel when it is so prevelant world wide. Your double standard smacks of cutural racism.

First of all my apologies for the double post but the first one did not have the title correct and I tried to correct it, oh well .

First of all your post is what is ment by killing the messenger, the only reason that I can see that you would do this is that you cannot adress the issues raised in my OP. I am not obsessed with this I am concerned with it all over the world to include but not limited to the Romani in Europe, the People in Rewanda, and the Native Americans in both North America and South America. This does not detract from my concern for the Bedouins as we as US Citizens help pay for their oppression. Now deal with the differences between the two sets of Illegal Settlements or go nitpick someone else.

First of all, this is a public forum and if you don't like what or how I post, feel free to leave and second of all your "concern" for the Rwandans would ring far more true if you could spell the word. Nah, you're just a one trick pony, Princess.

 

[patrickcaturday]

First of all my apologies for the double post but the first one did not have the title correct and I tried to correct it, oh well .

First of all your post is what is ment by killing the messenger, the only reason that I can see that you would do this is that you cannot adress the issues raised in my OP. I am not obsessed with this I am concerned with it all over the world to include but not limited to the Romani in Europe, the People in Rewanda, and the Native Americans in both North America and South America. This does not detract from my concern for the Bedouins as we as US Citizens help pay for their oppression. Now deal with the differences between the two sets of Illegal Settlements or go nitpick someone else.

First of all, this is a public forum and if you don't like what or how I post, feel free to leave and second of all your "concern" for the Rwandans would ring far more true if you could spell the word. Nah, you're just a one trick pony, Princess.

You are right that it is a public forum and you are free to post any garbage that you wish to post. I just find that your attempts to divert are ludicrous and indicate to me that you are unable to deal with the fact that Israel might be racist to the core. Go ahead post what you want it just makes you more laughable and an object of pity, but it is your dime.

 

[MHunterB]

If it hadn't been for the Arab League's conspiring to despoil and eject the entire Jewish citizenry from each of their member nations 'way back in 1947, then the OP might be something besides completely biased drivel.

As demonstrations of 'cultural racism' go, the Arab League's was pretty blatant. So was Jordan's ethnic cleansing of E.Jerusalem in '49.

Since the OP doesn't express the slightest concern for either of those crimes against humanity, I find his 'concern' suspiciously one-sided.

 

[patrickcaturday]

If it hadn't been for the Arab League's conspiring to despoil and eject the entire Jewish citizenry from each of their member nations 'way back in 1947, then the OP might be something besides completely biased drivel.

As demonstrations of 'cultural racism' go, the Arab League's was pretty blatant. So was Jordan's ethnic cleansing of E.Jerusalem in '49.

Since the OP doesn't express the slightest concern for either of those crimes against humanity, I find his 'concern' suspiciously one-sided.

How the Arabs treated the Jewish People was truely henious !!! However the way that you are treating the questions raised in the OP is equally henious !!! Seems to me that no one wishes to deal with the obvious crimes that Israel is committing they would rather divert and try to cast me in the most negative light they can, it doesn't bother me as I have come to expect it!!!
I do not find your views " suspiciously one sided ", I find them completely one sided !!! Here I will make your life easier for you , from now on just post;

ISRAEL GOOD !!! ALL OTHERS BAD BAD BAD !!!

 

[Hossfly]

If it hadn't been for the Arab League's conspiring to despoil and eject the entire Jewish citizenry from each of their member nations 'way back in 1947, then the OP might be something besides completely biased drivel.

As demonstrations of 'cultural racism' go, the Arab League's was pretty blatant. So was Jordan's ethnic cleansing of E.Jerusalem in '49.

Since the OP doesn't express the slightest concern for either of those crimes against humanity, I find his 'concern' suspiciously one-sided.

How the Arabs treated the Jewish People was truely henious !!! However the way that you are treating the questions raised in the OP is equally henious !!! Seems to me that no one wishes to deal with the obvious crimes that Israel is committing they would rather divert and try to cast me in the most negative light they can, it doesn't bother me as I have come to expect it!!!
I do not find your views " suspiciously one sided ", I find them completely one sided !!! Here I will make your life easier for you , from now on just post;

ISRAEL GOOD !!! ALL OTHERS BAD BAD BAD !!!

I want to see filmed proof by an accredited photographer from AP, UPI, Reuters. Get the drift? No Pallywood productions.

 

[sealadaigh]

Israel to triple demolition rate for illegal Bedouin construction

2010 should see 700 illegal structures destroyed and the plowing of 9,000 dunams of land to prevent new construction.
By Yanir Yagna | Feb.18, 2010 | 2:47 AM
The Interior Ministry, the Israel Lands Administration and the southern district of the Israel Police have jointly resolved to triple the demolition rate of illegal construction in the scattered Bedouin communities in the Negev. The decision came at a meeting about a month ago.
According to data obtained by Haaretz, 2009 saw an increase over the previous year in the demolition of illegal Bedouin homes and efforts to prevent illegal Bedouin construction. Last year, 254 structures were destroyed.
In 2008, the figure was 225 illegal structures. Sources at the joint agency meeting said illegal Bedouin construction in the Negev is not only continuing despite these enforcement efforts but is even increasing. This year should see 700 illegal structures destroyed and the deep plowing of 9,000 dunams of land to prevent new construction.
Ibrahim Al-Wakili, who heads the Regional Council of Unrecognized Villages, warned of an explosive situation if demolition even doubles.
"The Bedouin in unrecognized villages don't constitute any kind of obstacle to the development of the Negev, and the state must involve us just as [it does] other residents of the Negev," Al-Wakili said. "Even if they triple the demolitions," he added, "it won't help, if the state has no solution for people who for the past 60 years have suffered neglect. At least they shouldn't begin an intensified demolition campaign. The village residents cannot be put in a situation in which there is just demolition. It won't help. From the moment you press on the balloon too much, ultimately something happens. We call on the prime minister and all of those responsible for the demolitions not to bring people to the brink of despair. This is not healthy for any of the parties [involved]." .....

Israel to triple demolition rate for illegal Bedouin construction - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

Israel panel backs legalizing West Bank outposts
July 9, 2012 RSS Feed Print

By AMY TEIBEL, Associated Press
JERUSALEM (AP) — A government-commissioned report released Monday has recommended that Israel legalize dozens of unsanctioned West Bank settlement outposts, a move that would defy international opposition to settling land Palestinians want for a future state.
The report, written by a committee with pro-settler sympathies, also reaffirmed Israel's longstanding position, at odds with most of the world, that the West Bank is not occupied territory and therefore Israel has the legal right to settle it.
If endorsed by the government, the recommendations could give Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ammunition to support new settlement activity and fend off pressure from a Supreme Court that has ordered the government to take action against the existing outposts.
Netanyahu welcomed the panel's work and said he would bring its conclusions to a special forum that would decide whether to adopt them. Recommendations include annulling past Supreme Court rulings and legal orders to facilitate settlement construction.
Jewish settlements are at the heart of a three-year-old impasse in Mideast peace efforts. The Palestinians say they will not resume negotiations until Israel freezes settlement construction.
The outposts are unsanctioned enclaves that Jewish settlers began erecting in the 1990s to sidestep Israel's commitment to stop building new settlements. There are dozens of outposts, in addition to about 120 full-fledged settlements...
.
...Palestinian spokesman Ghassan Khatib immediately denounced the report's conclusions.
"This is in complete contradiction with international law and with specific resolutions of the United Nations ... and in contradiction with the official policy of almost every single country in the world," Khatib said. "We also think that such positions contradict the international efforts to establish peace based on two states, one of them in the territories occupied in 1967."
Netanyahu set up the committee in January to examine land use issues in the West Bank after concluding that a 2005 report on unauthorized settlement outposts was tainted by leftist bias. The author of the report, which had been commissioned by then-Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, a staunch settlement champion, was a former state prosecutor who ran for parliament on the dovish Meretz Party's ticket after leaving the civil service.
The new committee was headed by former Supreme Court Justice Edmond Levy, who opposed Israel's 2005 Gaza Strip withdrawal. It was considered sympathetic to setters and was expected to issue the recommendation to legalize outposts.
Although they skirted official approval procedures, government officials knew the outposts were being built and supplied them with the infrastructure hookups and military protection given to sanctioned settlements. About 100 outposts, home to several thousand Israelis, dot the West Bank, in addition to more than 120 full-fledged settlements.
The Israeli government had promised the U.S. in 2003 to tear down two dozen outposts built a decade ago but it has never honored that commitment.
The 2005 report on outposts by Talia Sasson was sharply critical of government complicity in their construction and noted that dozens were built on Palestinian-owned land, in violation of Israeli law. Israel's Supreme Court recently rebuffed the Netanyahu government's efforts to preserve one of the outposts, and it is due to be demolished next month. A second outpost was evacuated this month in spite of Netanyahu's efforts to avert the settlers' eviction.
The report made public on Monday proposed that procedures be streamlined to legalize the outposts and allow for new settlement construction. Committee member Alan Baker, a former legal adviser to the Foreign Ministry who is now a fellow at a conservative think-tank, said the outposts were not authorized because of international pressure and urged their approval.
"Nothing here was inherently illegal," he said.

Israel panel backs legalizing West Bank outposts - US News and World Report

If people wish to truly understand the cultural racism that exists in Israeli policy and politics they will examine the above articles with a careful eye. I Have provided links so that the complete articles can be accessed.

To summarize the situation that we are dealing with we must recognize that we are dealing with two different groups of illegal settlements. one Jewish and the other Bedouin. They are not treated equally, the only real difference between the two is that one is of the Jewish Culture and the other is of the Muslim culture. They both concern themselves with Israeli citizens that serve in the IDF and pay taxes. The differences as I stated earlier are ones of politics, policy, and racism.

The Israeli Settlements are illegal under Israeli Law as determined by the Israeli Supreme Court because they are built on land that the Court has ruled is Palestinian. Yet they are provided with the necessary infrastructure, water, electric, and sewage, that are necessary. Also they are defended by the IDF. Also the Netanyahu administration is seeking to overturn the Court's ruling and indeed they are seeking to expand the settlements.

The only reasons that the Bedouin Settlements are illegal are 1) they are not Jewish and 2) they are not given the necessary permits to build permanent structures. They are not provided with the necessary infrastructure in order to provide decent living conditions and the only time they see the IDF is when it is there to demolish their homes. The Netanyahu Administration does not seek to help or work with these people. Indeed the only time these people hear from the government is when it wants to take more of their land or it wants to charge them for the demolition and destruction of their property.

Can anyone give me a good reason why these people are treated so differently by their own government. As far as I can see the only reason is religious identity, and THAT SMACKS OF CULTURAL RACISM !!!

I don't understand your obsession with what you consider to be cultural racism in Israel when it is so prevelant world wide. Your double standard smacks of cutural racism.

dude, you crack me up. you feign horror at a refugee situation going on in mali and claim it is relevant to the israel palestine board...and yet you seem to want to shuffle off to the shadows what could be considered acts of genocide against the bedouin people by the israeli people and government.

ur yoo shure yoo ain't one a them thar damn radial islamonasty muslime animinal terrists pretendin' to be a joo just to make the koszher brothers and sisters look bad...because if you are, glory be to gawd, praise jesus, and woooo-eeee dang, you are doin' a helluva job, boy.

 

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I don't understand your obsession with what you consider to be cultural racism in Israel when it is so prevelant world wide. Your double standard smacks of cutural racism.

First of all my apologies for the double post but the first one did not have the title correct and I tried to correct it, oh well .

First of all your post is what is ment by killing the messenger, the only reason that I can see that you would do this is that you cannot adress the issues raised in my OP. I am not obsessed with this I am concerned with it all over the world to include but not limited to the Romani in Europe, the People in Rewanda, and the Native Americans in both North America and South America. This does not detract from my concern for the Bedouins as we as US Citizens help pay for their oppression. Now deal with the differences between the two sets of Illegal Settlements or go nitpick someone else.

don't play their diversion game or they will have you running all over the place. they are trying to run a guilt trip on you and taking advantage of your genuine concern for people.

lol...maybe they should just put their little heads together and make a laundary list of all the wrongs that have been done to the jews all the way back to the pharoah and all the bad things done by muslims and catholics since forever...and include a daily update about all the things wrong in the world today, so people can cut and paste it and say this is deplorable...and then, maybe, pro-palestinian and humanitarian posters can post on the human rights abuses and acts of genocide commited by israeli jews against the arab population. but don't bet on it.

here is a little heads up. you will rarely see any wrong doing by a jew or israeli condemned by a jew or zionist. you have seen this phenomenon on this board. it allows them to ignore their culpability for supporting such atrocities, humanitarian abuses, and acts of genocide. anything works to allow this lack of culpability...you make a typo on spelling "R(e)ewandan" because thr letter 'e" is between the "R"and "w" and that will make the genocide of the israeli bedouins go away.

just raise a glass of good irish uisge, jameson's top shelf..not bushmill's...made in co. antrim and they drug their feet on signing the macbride principles...they say you can taste the bigotry in every drop...and say "next year in al quds" with the realisation that it may not be next year but it sure as hell won't take two friggin' millenium.

 

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ur yoo shure yoo ain't one a them thar damn radial islamonasty muslime animinal terrists pretendin' to be a joo just to make the koszher brothers and sisters look bad...because if you are, glory be to gawd, praise jesus, and woooo-eeee dang, you are doin' a helluva job, boy.

Hilarious drivel!

 

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First of all, this is a public forum and if you don't like what or how I post, feel free to leave and second of all your "concern" for the Rwandans would ring far more true if you could spell the word. Nah, you're just a one trick pony, Princess.

You are right that it is a public forum and you are free to post any garbage that you wish to post. I just find that your attempts to divert are ludicrous and indicate to me that you are unable to deal with the fact that Israel might be racist to the core. Go ahead post what you want it just makes you more laughable and an object of pity, but it is your dime.

You post does not prove that "Israel is racist to the core" but does prove that you are.

 

[SAYIT]

If it hadn't been for the Arab League's conspiring to despoil and eject the entire Jewish citizenry from each of their member nations 'way back in 1947, then the OP might be something besides completely biased drivel.

As demonstrations of 'cultural racism' go, the Arab League's was pretty blatant. So was Jordan's ethnic cleansing of E.Jerusalem in '49.

Since the OP doesn't express the slightest concern for either of those crimes against humanity, I find his 'concern' suspiciously one-sided.

How the Arabs treated the Jewish People was truely henious !!! However the way that you are treating the questions raised in the OP is equally henious !!! Seems to me that no one wishes to deal with the obvious crimes that Israel is committing they would rather divert and try to cast me in the most negative light they can, it doesn't bother me as I have come to expect it!!!
I do not find your views " suspiciously one sided ", I find them completely one sided !!! Here I will make your life easier for you , from now on just post;

ISRAEL GOOD !!! ALL OTHERS BAD BAD BAD !!!

It is not only not necessary but extremely unnecessary that we all deal with what you consider to be "the obvious crimes that Israel is committing" and the fact that you consider Israel to be "racist to the core" when we have "people" like you running around like Chicken Little screaming "the sky is falling, the sky falling!"
It isn't Israel's racism and bigotry you are exposing, Princess, it's your own.

 

[SAYIT]

If people wish to truly understand the cultural racism that exists in Israeli policy and politics they will examine the above articles with a careful eye. I Have provided links so that the complete articles can be accessed.

To summarize the situation that we are dealing with we must recognize that we are dealing with two different groups of illegal settlements. one Jewish and the other Bedouin. They are not treated equally, the only real difference between the two is that one is of the Jewish Culture and the other is of the Muslim culture. They both concern themselves with Israeli citizens that serve in the IDF and pay taxes. The differences as I stated earlier are ones of politics, policy, and racism.

The Israeli Settlements are illegal under Israeli Law as determined by the Israeli Supreme Court because they are built on land that the Court has ruled is Palestinian. Yet they are provided with the necessary infrastructure, water, electric, and sewage, that are necessary. Also they are defended by the IDF. Also the Netanyahu administration is seeking to overturn the Court's ruling and indeed they are seeking to expand the settlements.

The only reasons that the Bedouin Settlements are illegal are 1) they are not Jewish and 2) they are not given the necessary permits to build permanent structures. They are not provided with the necessary infrastructure in order to provide decent living conditions and the only time they see the IDF is when it is there to demolish their homes. The Netanyahu Administration does not seek to help or work with these people. Indeed the only time these people hear from the government is when it wants to take more of their land or it wants to charge them for the demolition and destruction of their property.

Can anyone give me a good reason why these people are treated so differently by their own government. As far as I can see the only reason is religious identity, and THAT SMACKS OF CULTURAL RACISM !!!

I don't understand your obsession with what you consider to be cultural racism in Israel when it is so prevelant world wide. Your double standard smacks of cutural racism.

dude, you crack me up. you feign horror at a refugee situation going on in mali and claim it is relevant to the israel palestine board...and yet you seem to want to shuffle off to the shadows what could be considered acts of genocide against the bedouin people by the israeli people and government.

ur yoo shure yoo ain't one a them thar damn radial islamonasty muslime animinal terrists pretendin' to be a joo just to make the koszher brothers and sisters look bad...because if you are, glory be to gawd, praise jesus, and woooo-eeee dang, you are doin' a helluva job, boy.

You mean just as you and Pat the Cat feign horror here at what PatCat clearly considers to be the crime story of the century? You still try hard, Princess, but you still come up short.

 

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Armenian residents of Jerusalem's Old City are protesting a municipal decision to designate a parking lot in the area solely for Jews, although part of it stands on land belonging to the Armenian Patriarchate.

Parking is a major problem in the Old City, and some residents of the Jewish Quarter claim it is one reason secular families have been moving out. One of the parking lots serving this quarter is adjacent to the Armenian Quarter and is partially built on land owned by the Patriarchate, though the land has been leased by the Jewish Quarter Development Company since the 1970s.

For decades, the parking lot was open to all, though Jewish Quarter residents paid far less for a parking sticker than their Armenian neighbors. But around two years ago, Armenians were forbidden to park there.

"One day I came home from work and the lot was closed," said Mussa Marizian, an Armenian Quarter resident whose windows overlook the parking lot. "The quarter's management decided we shouldn't park there; they just got rid of us. Jews who live in the Muslim Quarter are allowed to park there, but I, who live right on top of the parking lot, am not allowed."

Jerusalem's Armenians outraged as city approves Jews-only parking lot in Old City - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

 

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Armenian residents of Jerusalem's Old City are protesting a municipal decision to designate a parking lot in the area solely for Jews, although part of it stands on land belonging to the Armenian Patriarchate.

Parking is a major problem in the Old City, and some residents of the Jewish Quarter claim it is one reason secular families have been moving out. One of the parking lots serving this quarter is adjacent to the Armenian Quarter and is partially built on land owned by the Patriarchate, though the land has been leased by the Jewish Quarter Development Company since the 1970s.

For decades, the parking lot was open to all, though Jewish Quarter residents paid far less for a parking sticker than their Armenian neighbors. But around two years ago, Armenians were forbidden to park there.

"One day I came home from work and the lot was closed," said Mussa Marizian, an Armenian Quarter resident whose windows overlook the parking lot. "The quarter's management decided we shouldn't park there; they just got rid of us. Jews who live in the Muslim Quarter are allowed to park there, but I, who live right on top of the parking lot, am not allowed."

Jerusalem's Armenians outraged as city approves Jews-only parking lot in Old City - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

gimme some odds on sayit chiming in and bemoaning the fact that some cities in his vicinity are beginning to charge for street parking on sunday or some other such ridiculous comment...the injustice of it all whine whine whine.

what next..."jews only" water fountains right next to "kafir only" water fountains...and it is an easy money bet on which one has all the water.

no...israel is not an apartheid state. not at all.

 

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Armenian residents of Jerusalem's Old City are protesting a municipal decision to designate a parking lot in the area solely for Jews, although part of it stands on land belonging to the Armenian Patriarchate.

And the objections were legally rejected. Cool. Bth., we should admire israeli openness, shouldn't we?