Cuban illegals = citizens

[zzzz]

So what about the Cubans who enter this country illegally? They are given special status and are allowed to become citizens and not be deported. Should this double standard be changed? Is there a difference between allowing Cubans citizenship and Mexicans not?The only reason is/was Castro. He has been marginalized now.

I think this policy should be lifted. It not only creates a double standard and discriminates but it entices Cuban to risk their lives to cross that stretch of water. How many Cubans have lost their lives in the attempt? How many Cubans have lost everything trying to buy a boat?

 

[DinoCrisisFan]

Wait, Cubans can come here illegally and become US citizens?

I imagine it would be because they are refugees from a communist dictatorship.

 

[Sallow]

So what about the Cubans who enter this country illegally? They are given special status and are allowed to become citizens and not be deported. Should this double standard be changed? Is there a difference between allowing Cubans citizenship and Mexicans not?The only reason is/was Castro. He has been marginalized now.

I think this policy should be lifted. It not only creates a double standard and discriminates but it entices Cuban to risk their lives to cross that stretch of water. How many Cubans have lost their lives in the attempt? How many Cubans have lost everything trying to buy a boat?

It's pretty assinine.

 

[José]

Originally posted by DinoCrisisFan
I imagine it would be because they are refugees from a communist dictatorship.

Your information is in error, sir. Mexicans and Cubans are refugees from the Third World.

They cannot eat Jeffersonian democracy in case you haven't noticed.

Cubans couldn't care less about elections as long as Castro does not outlaw conga lines.

 

[gunnyrogers55]

if your illegal cuban mexican or any other foreigner from another country if you are here illegal you should be taken out of our great country and not only banned from america for whatever the hell amount time we tell you to be gone but also there country when they get back punish them also.

 

[syrenn]

Illegal is illegal. I don't care who they are, where they came from, or WHY.

Ship them all back to what ever hole they crawled out from.

 

[José]

Illegal is illegal. I don't care who they are, where they came from, or WHY.

Ship them all back to what ever hole they crawled out from.

Indeed.

The unalienable right of US citizens to live in America and demand that other human beings be deported is solidly grounded on the fact that they happened to drop from a vagina in the middle of North America.

 

[Ozmar]

So what about the Cubans who enter this country illegally? They are given special status and are allowed to become citizens and not be deported. Should this double standard be changed? Is there a difference between allowing Cubans citizenship and Mexicans not?The only reason is/was Castro. He has been marginalized now.

I think this policy should be lifted. It not only creates a double standard and discriminates but it entices Cuban to risk their lives to cross that stretch of water. How many Cubans have lost their lives in the attempt? How many Cubans have lost everything trying to buy a boat?

link?

 

[uscitizen]

A good way for cuban spies to get into the USA.

But no politician will have the balls to change the law and alienate all the ex cubans in FL that vote and all their friends and relatives.

 

[zzzz]

So what about the Cubans who enter this country illegally? They are given special status and are allowed to become citizens and not be deported. Should this double standard be changed? Is there a difference between allowing Cubans citizenship and Mexicans not?The only reason is/was Castro. He has been marginalized now.

I think this policy should be lifted. It not only creates a double standard and discriminates but it entices Cuban to risk their lives to cross that stretch of water. How many Cubans have lost their lives in the attempt? How many Cubans have lost everything trying to buy a boat?

link?

Hewre is a short Washington Post article on it for you.
U.S.-Cuba Migration Policy - washingtonpost.com

 

[Ravi]

I imagine it would be because they are refugees from a communist dictatorship.

Yep...now all Mexicans need to do is install a communist leader in their country and they will also be welcomed with open arms.

 

[syrenn]

Illegal is illegal. I don't care who they are, where they came from, or WHY.

Ship them all back to what ever hole they crawled out from.

Indeed.

The unalienable right of US citizens to live in America and demand that other human beings be deported is solidly grounded on the fact that they happened to drop from a vagina in the middle of North America.

Illegal cubans are not dropped from a vagina. They usually float in on a make shift raft.

 

[José]

Illegal is illegal. I don't care who they are, where they came from, or WHY.

Ship them all back to what ever hole they crawled out from.

Indeed.

The unalienable right of US citizens to live in America and demand that other human beings be deported is solidly grounded on the fact that they happened to drop from a vagina in the middle of North America.

Illegal cubans are not dropped from a vagina. They usually float in on a make shift raft.

LOL... just pulling your leg. I firmly support the right of every nation on Earth to enforce its immigration laws.

It's just that when you REALLY think about this whole nationalist thing in a philosophical way you see that the only thing that separates citizens from foreigners is sheer luck, a series of fortuitous circumstances over which both the citizen and the foreigner had no control over (meaning we don't get to choose neither our parents nor the place we are born)

 

[syrenn]

Indeed.

The unalienable right of US citizens to live in America and demand that other human beings be deported is solidly grounded on the fact that they happened to drop from a vagina in the middle of North America.

Illegal cubans are not dropped from a vagina. They usually float in on a make shift raft.

LOL... just pulling your leg. I firmly support the right of every nation on Earth to enforce its immigration laws.

It's just that when you REALLY think about this whole nationalist thing in a philosophical way you see that the only thing that separates citizens from foreigners is sheer luck, a series of fortuitous circumstances over which both the citizen and the foreigner had no control over (meaning we don't get to choose neither our parents nor the place we are born)

I don't disagree with you about the luck part. Its called life. No one has ever said that life is fare.

Illegal cubans are just as illegal as any other illegal. They should not be given any special treatment.

 

[High_Gravity]

So if the regime in Cuba fell, would Cubans still get the special status to come to the US?

 

[JamesInFlorida]

As soon a Cuban lands on US soil-they're no longer "illegal" (providing they declare themselves). That's what you have to wrap your mind around-right or wrong. Therefore there's really no such thing as an illegal Cuban immigrant (or at least a Cuban immigrant without having a pathway at legal status). Any Cuban who makes it over here will declare, pays taxes, and acts just like any other legal-immigrants (because they ARE legal).


PS-if you don't think they should have any special benefits-and their kids shouldn't get them either-by all means support throwing Marco Rubio out of the US Senate.

 

[gekaap]

Is it so difficult to understand why the US might adopt different policies toward illegal immigrants from Cuba as opposed to Mexico?

US diplomatic policy toward Cuba is not so friendly, and the US is willing to extend asylum to Cubans attempting to escape from Cuba. Cuba tends not to be very willing to allow its citizens to leave. Cubans who attempt to come to the US but who are caught and subsequently returned to Cuba usually face imprisonment. Overall, Cubans do not present a very significant contribution to illegal immigration problems in the US, and the two governments have agreements and procedures in place to regulate a legal flow of immigration from Cuba to the US, with potential immigrants having to meet various criteria (they have to have a HS diploma and several years of continuous work history) so as to minimize the individual drawing any negative burden on the US economy. For its part, Cuba makes organized efforts to prevent illegal immigration to the US.

On the other hand, Mexico has diplomatic ties with the US, and there are many avenues for legal immigration into the US. Despite this, massive illegal immigration continues to occur, with the Mexican government favoring opportunities for its citizens to illegally immigrate. Mexico makes no substantial effort to curb illegal immigration to the US. While Mexico's government certainly has significant problems of its own, Mexico is considered a free society, and thus there is no justification to generally consider Mexican immigrants as political refugees of any kind. In recent years, the high level of violence in norther Mexico has been spilling over into the US, causing security concerns. Illegal Mexican immigrants cause a significant drain on the US economy, through wage suppression, lost tax revenues, through collecting welfare benefits, and by using classroom space and thereby necessitating higher expenditures in education.

All things considered, the question of illegal immigration from Mexico vs Cuba present two very different circumstances, and so it's not unreasonable that the US government would approach both scenarios differently.

 

[waltky]

Get ready for the Cuban invasion...

Lawmakers Demand Changes as Cuban Migration to US Surges
December 22, 2016 – President-elect Donald Trump and Congress are facing demands by lawmakers to end the special treatment given to Cuban migrants to the U.S., amid a surge of new arrivals on the border with Mexico following restoration of diplomatic relations with the island nation.

“Every aspect of U.S. policy toward Cuba needs to be reexamined in the new administration,” Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) told CNSNews.com through a spokesman this week. Rubio specifically called for an end to federal benefits to Cubans who come to the U.S., apply for benefits and then collect them after returning to Cuba. “If you’re coming from Cuba, receiving refugee benefits and returning to the island all the time, then you shouldn’t be eligible for refugee benefits from U.S. taxpayers,” he said. “We want to make sure refugee benefits are not creating a financial incentive to come to the U.S.”

Rubio has introduced a bill, “The Cuban Immigrant Work Opportunity Act of 2016‎,” which would end the “automatic eligibility for federal public assistance for Cuban nationals under the Refugee Resettlement Program, while maintaining it for those that have been persecuted that are in need of resettlement assistance.” He has stopped short, however, of calling for an end to the Cuban Adjustment Act of 1966, which confers special immigration status to Cuban refugees and their families who set foot on U.S. soil. The law gives Cubans who make it into the U.S., including their spouses and family members, the right to apply for legal permanent residence within one year – originally two years – of being in the country. The act was amended in 1995 to specify that Cubans detained at sea while trying to enter the U.S. would be sent back to Cuba.

U.S.-bound Cuban migrants arrive at Ciudad Hidalgo on the Guatemala-Mexico border​

Reps. Blake Farenthold (R-Texas) and Henry Cuellar (D-Texas) have introduced a bill to repeal the 1966 law, removing the special rights of Cuban migrants who make it onto U.S. soil to apply for residence. According to the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), the bill would also “address rampant abuse of taxpayer dollars” by ending “automatic eligibility for federal benefits for Cuban nationals under the Refugee Resettlement Program.” The bill calls upon the Social Security Administration to report on how many Cubans living in Cuba are collecting federal benefits such as Supplemental Security Income.

The number of Cuban migrants entering the U.S. “spiked dramatically” after President Obama renewed diplomatic relations at the end of 2014, according to federal immigration records acquired by the Pew research center under a freedom of information request. Some 46,635 Cuban migrants made it to U.S. soil in the first ten months of fiscal year 2016 – more than all of FY 2015, when Cuban arrivals increased 78 percent over 2014, the records showed. A majority of those 46,635 Cuban migrants (64 percent) arrived at the Texas border rather than risking a Caribbean crossing by boat.

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