Cruz: IG report shows Obama admin's stunning abuse of power

[iceberg]

just stop dude. you know exactly what i'm talking about. nothing at all was found on trump and RUSSIA connections yet many on the left swear it happened and Muellers report was scathing to trump. yet they can never point out which part of the report is so "scathing" they tell you to look it up.

now THIS is scathing and barr & co say MORE is coming.

are you going to tell me what the FBI did to trump was ok? cause if you do, you're saying it's ok to do to ANYONE much less someone running for office.

do you really hate trump so bad you're willing to pretty much toss out our rights along the way to TRY and get rid of him? this is way beyond ORANGE MAN BAD crap. this is setting the tone for how they can spy on us moving forward. your family. your friends.

you.

you ok with all that? cause if they can do it to someone like trump, we ain't shit.

You've never read the Mueller report or even a summary? That is willful ignorance on your part. You like things spoon fed? Okay, baby bird...

Major Findings

​

1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.

2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.

3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.

4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.

5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.

6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.

7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.

8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.

9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.

10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.

11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.

12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.

13. During the presidential transition, Jared Kushner and Eric Prince engaged in secret back channel communications with Russian agents. (1) Kushner suggested to the Russian Ambassador that they use a secure communication line from within the Russian Embassy to speak with Russian Generals; and (2) Prince and Kushner’s friend Rick Gerson conducted secret back channel meetings with a Putin agent to develop a plan for U.S.-Russian relations.

14. During the presidential transition, in coordination with other members of the Transition Team, Michael Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador to prevent a tit for tat Russian response to the Obama administration’s imposition of sanctions for election interference; the Russians agreed not to retaliate saying they wanted a good relationship with the incoming administration.

well that explains why he's in jail now huh?

now compare these actions to the FISA report please with the same scrutiny.

i double dog dare you.

You're insane.

and y'all are straight up partisan idiots.

Yes, I am partisan. Admit it quite happily. The irony is that you are just as partisan. Self loathing is so ugly....

i'm protecting rights overall. if partisan means i don't engage in 100% attack at all costs against trump OR ANYONE then sign me up.

the actions you are covering up / excusing will come back to you with more. that's how this shit built up to this point. what the FBI did was wrong and it would be wrong to ANY CANDIDATE much less any of us.

but if they can get away with doing this to trump you may giggle and laugh. but you'll cry turds out the eyeballs when it happens to you.

and it will.

 

[Billiejeens]

just stop dude. you know exactly what i'm talking about. nothing at all was found on trump and RUSSIA connections yet many on the left swear it happened and Muellers report was scathing to trump. yet they can never point out which part of the report is so "scathing" they tell you to look it up.

now THIS is scathing and barr & co say MORE is coming.

are you going to tell me what the FBI did to trump was ok? cause if you do, you're saying it's ok to do to ANYONE much less someone running for office.

do you really hate trump so bad you're willing to pretty much toss out our rights along the way to TRY and get rid of him? this is way beyond ORANGE MAN BAD crap. this is setting the tone for how they can spy on us moving forward. your family. your friends.

you.

you ok with all that? cause if they can do it to someone like trump, we ain't shit.

You've never read the Mueller report or even a summary? That is willful ignorance on your part. You like things spoon fed? Okay, baby bird...

Major Findings

​

1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.

2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.

3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.

4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.

5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.

6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.

7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.

8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.

9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.

10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.

11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.

12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.

13. During the presidential transition, Jared Kushner and Eric Prince engaged in secret back channel communications with Russian agents. (1) Kushner suggested to the Russian Ambassador that they use a secure communication line from within the Russian Embassy to speak with Russian Generals; and (2) Prince and Kushner’s friend Rick Gerson conducted secret back channel meetings with a Putin agent to develop a plan for U.S.-Russian relations.

14. During the presidential transition, in coordination with other members of the Transition Team, Michael Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador to prevent a tit for tat Russian response to the Obama administration’s imposition of sanctions for election interference; the Russians agreed not to retaliate saying they wanted a good relationship with the incoming administration.

well that explains why he's in jail now huh?

now compare these actions to the FISA report please with the same scrutiny.

i double dog dare you.

I do my due diligence...you obviously don't.

Key Findings

The inspector general found no basis for conservative claims that partisan hostility to Mr Trump had influenced the bureau's probe.

"We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions to open the four individual investigations," he said.

Mr Horowitz also did not find that the FBI's mistakes were intentional.

The investigation was opened "in compliance with department and FBI policies", the report said.

Mr Horowitz also found the FBI's use of confidential informants was in compliance with agency rules.
​

So, I will ask again, what was "done" to Trump?

You conviently forgot one major "key finding": That the steele dossier was a bunch of lies used to get an illegal FISA warrant on carter page.

The Dossier was not the basis for the surveillance on Paige. Oh and...

Mr Horowitz also did not find that the FBI's mistakes were intentional.​

First off - It's Page.

The CIA told the FBI that there was no need to surveil Page that Page had done some work for them.
The FBI told them to piss up a rope that overthrowing US Presidents was Domestic Work and fell under the prevue of the FBI and not the CIA.

 

[Seawytch]

You've never read the Mueller report or even a summary? That is willful ignorance on your part. You like things spoon fed? Okay, baby bird...

Major Findings

​

1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.

2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.

3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.

4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.

5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.

6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.

7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.

8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.

9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.

10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.

11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.

12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.

13. During the presidential transition, Jared Kushner and Eric Prince engaged in secret back channel communications with Russian agents. (1) Kushner suggested to the Russian Ambassador that they use a secure communication line from within the Russian Embassy to speak with Russian Generals; and (2) Prince and Kushner’s friend Rick Gerson conducted secret back channel meetings with a Putin agent to develop a plan for U.S.-Russian relations.

14. During the presidential transition, in coordination with other members of the Transition Team, Michael Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador to prevent a tit for tat Russian response to the Obama administration’s imposition of sanctions for election interference; the Russians agreed not to retaliate saying they wanted a good relationship with the incoming administration.

well that explains why he's in jail now huh?

now compare these actions to the FISA report please with the same scrutiny.

i double dog dare you.

You're insane.

and y'all are straight up partisan idiots.

Yes, I am partisan. Admit it quite happily. The irony is that you are just as partisan. Self loathing is so ugly....

i'm protecting rights overall. if partisan means i don't engage in 100% attack at all costs against trump OR ANYONE then sign me up.

the actions you are covering up / excusing will come back to you with more. that's how this shit built up to this point. what the FBI did was wrong and it would be wrong to ANY CANDIDATE much less any of us.

but if they can get away with doing this to trump you may giggle and laugh. but you'll cry turds out the eyeballs when it happens to you.

and it will.

The FBI was not wrong. The IG report says the FBI was fully justified and not partisan in their investigation. Yes, they made mistakes, but were not wrong to investigate in the first place.

 

[DBA]

well that explains why he's in jail now huh?

now compare these actions to the FISA report please with the same scrutiny.

i double dog dare you.

I do my due diligence...you obviously don't.

Key Findings

The inspector general found no basis for conservative claims that partisan hostility to Mr Trump had influenced the bureau's probe.

"We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions to open the four individual investigations," he said.

Mr Horowitz also did not find that the FBI's mistakes were intentional.

The investigation was opened "in compliance with department and FBI policies", the report said.

Mr Horowitz also found the FBI's use of confidential informants was in compliance with agency rules.
​

So, I will ask again, what was "done" to Trump?

You conviently forgot one major "key finding": That the steele dossier was a bunch of lies used to get an illegal FISA warrant on carter page.

The Dossier was not the basis for the surveillance on Paige. Oh and...

Mr Horowitz also did not find that the FBI's mistakes were intentional.​

Bullshit. IG report says otherwise:

"Nevertheless, we found that members of the [counterintelligence] team failed to meet the basic obligation to ensure that the Carter Page FISA applications were ‘scrupulously accurate,'” the report reads. This is because the counterintelligence team used unverified hearsay from Steele — and only the information from Steele — as evidence to justify eavesdropping."

IG Report: No FISA Warrant On Carter Page Without Steele Dossier

The FBI did not use the Steele dossier to open Russia probe
A key accusation among Trump’s allies has been that the FBI predicated its investigation of Trump campaign officials Carter Page, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and Michael Flynn on information the bureau received from former British spy Christopher Steele.

But Horowitz found that the Crossfire Hurricane team — the code name agents gave to the Russia inquiry — did not receive Steele’s election reporting materials until after the investigation had already been opened using information about Papadopoulos the team received from an allied nation.
​

Inspector general’s report on Russia probe: Key takeaways

Read up on what happened with Papdopoulos. FBI corruption.

Why would they lie about the dossier and withold evidence in an attempt to get the FISA warrant? They lied and misled the FISA court by leaving out known information from informants that disputed the dossier. Why did a Democratic lawyer alter a document to mislead the FISA court? No policitcal bias? Have you read some of the texts from these folks? Their actions(hiding information and misleading the FISA court), coupled with many of their texts, is a damning indictment of their objectivity. You know it. Everybody knows it, but the MSM doesn't report it. They don't want an informed electorate because they would lose.

 

[Seawytch]

You've never read the Mueller report or even a summary? That is willful ignorance on your part. You like things spoon fed? Okay, baby bird...

Major Findings

​

1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.

2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.

3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.

4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.

5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.

6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.

7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.

8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.

9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.

10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.

11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.

12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.

13. During the presidential transition, Jared Kushner and Eric Prince engaged in secret back channel communications with Russian agents. (1) Kushner suggested to the Russian Ambassador that they use a secure communication line from within the Russian Embassy to speak with Russian Generals; and (2) Prince and Kushner’s friend Rick Gerson conducted secret back channel meetings with a Putin agent to develop a plan for U.S.-Russian relations.

14. During the presidential transition, in coordination with other members of the Transition Team, Michael Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador to prevent a tit for tat Russian response to the Obama administration’s imposition of sanctions for election interference; the Russians agreed not to retaliate saying they wanted a good relationship with the incoming administration.

well that explains why he's in jail now huh?

now compare these actions to the FISA report please with the same scrutiny.

i double dog dare you.

I do my due diligence...you obviously don't.

Key Findings

The inspector general found no basis for conservative claims that partisan hostility to Mr Trump had influenced the bureau's probe.

"We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions to open the four individual investigations," he said.

Mr Horowitz also did not find that the FBI's mistakes were intentional.

The investigation was opened "in compliance with department and FBI policies", the report said.

Mr Horowitz also found the FBI's use of confidential informants was in compliance with agency rules.
​

So, I will ask again, what was "done" to Trump?

You conviently forgot one major "key finding": That the steele dossier was a bunch of lies used to get an illegal FISA warrant on carter page.

The Dossier was not the basis for the surveillance on Paige. Oh and...

Mr Horowitz also did not find that the FBI's mistakes were intentional.​

First off - It's Page.

The CIA told the FBI that there was no need to surveil Page that Page had done some work for them.
The FBI told them to piss up a rope that overthrowing US Presidents was Domestic Work and fell under the prevue of the FBI and not the CIA.

Yes, and?

 

[colfax_m]

Still buying into Russia what?

just stop dude. you know exactly what i'm talking about. nothing at all was found on trump and RUSSIA connections yet many on the left swear it happened and Muellers report was scathing to trump. yet they can never point out which part of the report is so "scathing" they tell you to look it up.

now THIS is scathing and barr & co say MORE is coming.

are you going to tell me what the FBI did to trump was ok? cause if you do, you're saying it's ok to do to ANYONE much less someone running for office.

do you really hate trump so bad you're willing to pretty much toss out our rights along the way to TRY and get rid of him? this is way beyond ORANGE MAN BAD crap. this is setting the tone for how they can spy on us moving forward. your family. your friends.

you.

you ok with all that? cause if they can do it to someone like trump, we ain't shit.

You've never read the Mueller report or even a summary? That is willful ignorance on your part. You like things spoon fed? Okay, baby bird...

Major Findings

​

1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.

2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.

3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.

4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.

5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.

6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.

7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.

8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.

9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.

10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.

11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.

12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.

13. During the presidential transition, Jared Kushner and Eric Prince engaged in secret back channel communications with Russian agents. (1) Kushner suggested to the Russian Ambassador that they use a secure communication line from within the Russian Embassy to speak with Russian Generals; and (2) Prince and Kushner’s friend Rick Gerson conducted secret back channel meetings with a Putin agent to develop a plan for U.S.-Russian relations.

14. During the presidential transition, in coordination with other members of the Transition Team, Michael Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador to prevent a tit for tat Russian response to the Obama administration’s imposition of sanctions for election interference; the Russians agreed not to retaliate saying they wanted a good relationship with the incoming administration.

well that explains why he's in jail now huh?

now compare these actions to the FISA report please with the same scrutiny.

i double dog dare you.

I do my due diligence...you obviously don't.

Key Findings

The inspector general found no basis for conservative claims that partisan hostility to Mr Trump had influenced the bureau's probe.

"We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions to open the four individual investigations," he said.

Mr Horowitz also did not find that the FBI's mistakes were intentional.

The investigation was opened "in compliance with department and FBI policies", the report said.

Mr Horowitz also found the FBI's use of confidential informants was in compliance with agency rules.
​

So, I will ask again, what was "done" to Trump?

and i ask you again - are you ok with the tactics used to get FISA warrants against trump?

they WILL be used again and again and next time likely against people are you supporting. will that be cool then or will you whine like a partisan bitch like you are now?

$20 on door #2 here.

There was no FISA warrant on Trump, only on Carter Page. That story about Obama tapping Trump’s wires turns out to have been bullshit.

 

[colfax_m]

The democrats can celebrate the Horowitz report saying that the FBI started the Russia investigation properly.
That is not the issue, the issue is the FBI's spying on the Trump campaign and illegally setting up Flynn, Popadopulous, and Carter Page.
The Durham investigation will indict the guilty, and then the democrats can whine about a "banana republic" when they get caught.

There’s no “setting up” if Flynn and Papadopoulos. Page was never indicted.

 

[Seawytch]

I do my due diligence...you obviously don't.

Key Findings

The inspector general found no basis for conservative claims that partisan hostility to Mr Trump had influenced the bureau's probe.

"We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions to open the four individual investigations," he said.

Mr Horowitz also did not find that the FBI's mistakes were intentional.

The investigation was opened "in compliance with department and FBI policies", the report said.

Mr Horowitz also found the FBI's use of confidential informants was in compliance with agency rules.
​

So, I will ask again, what was "done" to Trump?

You conviently forgot one major "key finding": That the steele dossier was a bunch of lies used to get an illegal FISA warrant on carter page.

The Dossier was not the basis for the surveillance on Paige. Oh and...

Mr Horowitz also did not find that the FBI's mistakes were intentional.​

Bullshit. IG report says otherwise:

"Nevertheless, we found that members of the [counterintelligence] team failed to meet the basic obligation to ensure that the Carter Page FISA applications were ‘scrupulously accurate,'” the report reads. This is because the counterintelligence team used unverified hearsay from Steele — and only the information from Steele — as evidence to justify eavesdropping."

IG Report: No FISA Warrant On Carter Page Without Steele Dossier

The FBI did not use the Steele dossier to open Russia probe
A key accusation among Trump’s allies has been that the FBI predicated its investigation of Trump campaign officials Carter Page, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and Michael Flynn on information the bureau received from former British spy Christopher Steele.

But Horowitz found that the Crossfire Hurricane team — the code name agents gave to the Russia inquiry — did not receive Steele’s election reporting materials until after the investigation had already been opened using information about Papadopoulos the team received from an allied nation.
​

Inspector general’s report on Russia probe: Key takeaways

Read up on what happened with Papdopoulos. FBI corruption.

Why would they lie about the dossier and withold evidence in an attempt to get the FISA warrant? They lied and misled the FISA court by leaving out known information from informants that disputed the dossier. Why did a Democratic lawyer alter a document to mislead the FISA court? No policitcal bias? Have you read some of the texts from these folks? Their actions(hiding information and misleading the FISA court), coupled with many of their texts, is a damning indictment of their objectivity. You know it. Everybody knows it, but the MSM doesn't report it. They don't want an informed electorate because they would lose.

Expand your sources.

You want to talk about partisan texts? You sure?

“If you hear talk of a special prosecutor … I will volunteer to work [on] the Clinton Foundation,” a supervising agent wrote the day after Trump won, also comparing Trump’s election to "watching a Superbowl comeback."

The supervising agent explained to Horowitz that he expected Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton to win, “but as the returns [came] in … it was just energizing to me to see ... [because] I didn't want a criminal to be in the White House."

Two other agents also discussed the results of the election.

“Trump!” the first agent wrote.

“Hahaha. Shit just got real,” the second agent replied.

“Yes it did,” the first agent said.

"I saw a lot of scared MFers on ... [my way to work] this morning. Start looking for new jobs fellas. Haha,” the second agent said.

“LOL,” the first responded.​

 

[Billiejeens]

well that explains why he's in jail now huh?

now compare these actions to the FISA report please with the same scrutiny.

i double dog dare you.

I do my due diligence...you obviously don't.

Key Findings

The inspector general found no basis for conservative claims that partisan hostility to Mr Trump had influenced the bureau's probe.

"We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions to open the four individual investigations," he said.

Mr Horowitz also did not find that the FBI's mistakes were intentional.

The investigation was opened "in compliance with department and FBI policies", the report said.

Mr Horowitz also found the FBI's use of confidential informants was in compliance with agency rules.
​

So, I will ask again, what was "done" to Trump?

You conviently forgot one major "key finding": That the steele dossier was a bunch of lies used to get an illegal FISA warrant on carter page.

The Dossier was not the basis for the surveillance on Paige. Oh and...

Mr Horowitz also did not find that the FBI's mistakes were intentional.​

First off - It's Page.

The CIA told the FBI that there was no need to surveil Page that Page had done some work for them.
The FBI told them to piss up a rope that overthrowing US Presidents was Domestic Work and fell under the prevue of the FBI and not the CIA.

Yes, and?

That's it.

 

[colfax_m]

You've never read the Mueller report or even a summary? That is willful ignorance on your part. You like things spoon fed? Okay, baby bird...

Major Findings

​

1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.

2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.

3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.

4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.

5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.

6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.

7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.

8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.

9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.

10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.

11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.

12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.

13. During the presidential transition, Jared Kushner and Eric Prince engaged in secret back channel communications with Russian agents. (1) Kushner suggested to the Russian Ambassador that they use a secure communication line from within the Russian Embassy to speak with Russian Generals; and (2) Prince and Kushner’s friend Rick Gerson conducted secret back channel meetings with a Putin agent to develop a plan for U.S.-Russian relations.

14. During the presidential transition, in coordination with other members of the Transition Team, Michael Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador to prevent a tit for tat Russian response to the Obama administration’s imposition of sanctions for election interference; the Russians agreed not to retaliate saying they wanted a good relationship with the incoming administration.

well that explains why he's in jail now huh?

now compare these actions to the FISA report please with the same scrutiny.

i double dog dare you.

I do my due diligence...you obviously don't.

Key Findings

The inspector general found no basis for conservative claims that partisan hostility to Mr Trump had influenced the bureau's probe.

"We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions to open the four individual investigations," he said.

Mr Horowitz also did not find that the FBI's mistakes were intentional.

The investigation was opened "in compliance with department and FBI policies", the report said.

Mr Horowitz also found the FBI's use of confidential informants was in compliance with agency rules.
​

So, I will ask again, what was "done" to Trump?

You conviently forgot one major "key finding": That the steele dossier was a bunch of lies used to get an illegal FISA warrant on carter page.

The Dossier was not the basis for the surveillance on Paige. Oh and...

Mr Horowitz also did not find that the FBI's mistakes were intentional.​

First off - It's Page.

The CIA told the FBI that there was no need to surveil Page that Page had done some work for them.
The FBI told them to piss up a rope that overthrowing US Presidents was Domestic Work and fell under the prevue of the FBI and not the CIA.

Well, that’s made up.

 

[iceberg]

just stop dude. you know exactly what i'm talking about. nothing at all was found on trump and RUSSIA connections yet many on the left swear it happened and Muellers report was scathing to trump. yet they can never point out which part of the report is so "scathing" they tell you to look it up.

now THIS is scathing and barr & co say MORE is coming.

are you going to tell me what the FBI did to trump was ok? cause if you do, you're saying it's ok to do to ANYONE much less someone running for office.

do you really hate trump so bad you're willing to pretty much toss out our rights along the way to TRY and get rid of him? this is way beyond ORANGE MAN BAD crap. this is setting the tone for how they can spy on us moving forward. your family. your friends.

you.

you ok with all that? cause if they can do it to someone like trump, we ain't shit.

You've never read the Mueller report or even a summary? That is willful ignorance on your part. You like things spoon fed? Okay, baby bird...

Major Findings

​

1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.

2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.

3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.

4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.

5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.

6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.

7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.

8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.

9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.

10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.

11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.

12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.

13. During the presidential transition, Jared Kushner and Eric Prince engaged in secret back channel communications with Russian agents. (1) Kushner suggested to the Russian Ambassador that they use a secure communication line from within the Russian Embassy to speak with Russian Generals; and (2) Prince and Kushner’s friend Rick Gerson conducted secret back channel meetings with a Putin agent to develop a plan for U.S.-Russian relations.

14. During the presidential transition, in coordination with other members of the Transition Team, Michael Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador to prevent a tit for tat Russian response to the Obama administration’s imposition of sanctions for election interference; the Russians agreed not to retaliate saying they wanted a good relationship with the incoming administration.

well that explains why he's in jail now huh?

now compare these actions to the FISA report please with the same scrutiny.

i double dog dare you.

I do my due diligence...you obviously don't.

Key Findings

The inspector general found no basis for conservative claims that partisan hostility to Mr Trump had influenced the bureau's probe.

"We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions to open the four individual investigations," he said.

Mr Horowitz also did not find that the FBI's mistakes were intentional.

The investigation was opened "in compliance with department and FBI policies", the report said.

Mr Horowitz also found the FBI's use of confidential informants was in compliance with agency rules.
​

So, I will ask again, what was "done" to Trump?

and i ask you again - are you ok with the tactics used to get FISA warrants against trump?

they WILL be used again and again and next time likely against people are you supporting. will that be cool then or will you whine like a partisan bitch like you are now?

$20 on door #2 here.

There was no FISA warrant on Trump, only on Carter Page. That story about Obama tapping Trump’s wires turns out to have been bullshit.

so you're going to ignore what, 51 violations and call bullshit OF WHICH isn't over yet?

are you after the truth or trump?

 

[Billiejeens]

I do my due diligence...you obviously don't.

Key Findings

The inspector general found no basis for conservative claims that partisan hostility to Mr Trump had influenced the bureau's probe.

"We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions to open the four individual investigations," he said.

Mr Horowitz also did not find that the FBI's mistakes were intentional.

The investigation was opened "in compliance with department and FBI policies", the report said.

Mr Horowitz also found the FBI's use of confidential informants was in compliance with agency rules.
​

So, I will ask again, what was "done" to Trump?

You conviently forgot one major "key finding": That the steele dossier was a bunch of lies used to get an illegal FISA warrant on carter page.

The Dossier was not the basis for the surveillance on Paige. Oh and...

Mr Horowitz also did not find that the FBI's mistakes were intentional.​

Bullshit. IG report says otherwise:

"Nevertheless, we found that members of the [counterintelligence] team failed to meet the basic obligation to ensure that the Carter Page FISA applications were ‘scrupulously accurate,'” the report reads. This is because the counterintelligence team used unverified hearsay from Steele — and only the information from Steele — as evidence to justify eavesdropping."

IG Report: No FISA Warrant On Carter Page Without Steele Dossier

The FBI did not use the Steele dossier to open Russia probe
A key accusation among Trump’s allies has been that the FBI predicated its investigation of Trump campaign officials Carter Page, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos and Michael Flynn on information the bureau received from former British spy Christopher Steele.

But Horowitz found that the Crossfire Hurricane team — the code name agents gave to the Russia inquiry — did not receive Steele’s election reporting materials until after the investigation had already been opened using information about Papadopoulos the team received from an allied nation.
​

Inspector general’s report on Russia probe: Key takeaways

Read up on what happened with Papdopoulos. FBI corruption.

Why would they lie about the dossier and withold evidence in an attempt to get the FISA warrant? They lied and misled the FISA court by leaving out known information from informants that disputed the dossier. Why did a Democratic lawyer alter a document to mislead the FISA court? No policitcal bias? Have you read some of the texts from these folks? Their actions(hiding information and misleading the FISA court), coupled with many of their texts, is a damning indictment of their objectivity. You know it. Everybody knows it, but the MSM doesn't report it. They don't want an informed electorate because they would lose.

Yeah that whole informed electorate is probably bad for the Media and Establishment Politicians of each party.

Everything that you wrote is true.
The story as far as the Democratic Media and their Stooges in Congress and Society is that -
Yes, The People at the FBI hated Trump, and they hated his supporters -
But the hate was just general hate - everyone that the Democratic Media knows and talks to, hate him and his supporters.
Therefore it just makes sense to them
None of the texts said - we hate him because he is a Republican - so therefore they can claim it is not political.

 

[iceberg]

well that explains why he's in jail now huh?

now compare these actions to the FISA report please with the same scrutiny.

i double dog dare you.

You're insane.

and y'all are straight up partisan idiots.

Yes, I am partisan. Admit it quite happily. The irony is that you are just as partisan. Self loathing is so ugly....

i'm protecting rights overall. if partisan means i don't engage in 100% attack at all costs against trump OR ANYONE then sign me up.

the actions you are covering up / excusing will come back to you with more. that's how this shit built up to this point. what the FBI did was wrong and it would be wrong to ANY CANDIDATE much less any of us.

but if they can get away with doing this to trump you may giggle and laugh. but you'll cry turds out the eyeballs when it happens to you.

and it will.

The FBI was not wrong. The IG report says the FBI was fully justified and not partisan in their investigation. Yes, they made mistakes, but were not wrong to investigate in the first place.

51 mistakes? hell you won't let trump make 1, even if you have to make it a mistake for him.

forgive me if i don't believe a damn thing you say. you don't care about the truth, you care about the appearance of being "right".

 

[Billiejeens]

well that explains why he's in jail now huh?

now compare these actions to the FISA report please with the same scrutiny.

i double dog dare you.

I do my due diligence...you obviously don't.

Key Findings

The inspector general found no basis for conservative claims that partisan hostility to Mr Trump had influenced the bureau's probe.

"We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions to open the four individual investigations," he said.

Mr Horowitz also did not find that the FBI's mistakes were intentional.

The investigation was opened "in compliance with department and FBI policies", the report said.

Mr Horowitz also found the FBI's use of confidential informants was in compliance with agency rules.
​

So, I will ask again, what was "done" to Trump?

You conviently forgot one major "key finding": That the steele dossier was a bunch of lies used to get an illegal FISA warrant on carter page.

The Dossier was not the basis for the surveillance on Paige. Oh and...

Mr Horowitz also did not find that the FBI's mistakes were intentional.​

First off - It's Page.

The CIA told the FBI that there was no need to surveil Page that Page had done some work for them.
The FBI told them to piss up a rope that overthrowing US Presidents was Domestic Work and fell under the prevue of the FBI and not the CIA.

Well, that’s made up.

The pissing up a rope verbiage is probably hyperbole
The rest is fact.

 

[kyzr]

The democrats can celebrate the Horowitz report saying that the FBI started the Russia investigation properly.
That is not the issue, the issue is the FBI's spying on the Trump campaign and illegally setting up Flynn, Popadopulous, and Carter Page.
The Durham investigation will indict the guilty, and then the democrats can whine about a "banana republic" when they get caught.

There’s no “setting up” of Flynn and Papadopoulos. Page was never indicted.

1. Carter Page was accused of working a deal with Russia for 19% of a Russian oil giant worth ($11b) if he got Trump to remove sanctions. (a setup lie)
2. Popadopolus was setup by Mifsud telling him that Russia had thousands of Hillary Clinton's emails (a setup lie)
3. Flynn was setup by a "perjury trap" and squeezed by FBI threats to his son. (a setup)
4. The other Trump associate spied on by the FBI was Paul Manafort, he was toast as soon as he joined the Trump team. (not a setup, but a FISA abuse)

Carter Page was never indicted because his FISA warrant was based on all lies. The 2-hop rule means that they can spy on any Trump team member.
Popadope got 2-weeks, and more spying on Trump
Flynn was hated by the Obama admin, and was really fucked over unfairly. I hope Trump pardons him.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I never thought I'd see Americans kissing the feet of a president like Trump fans are doing. I really hope they figure it out soon.

 

[colfax_m]

The democrats can celebrate the Horowitz report saying that the FBI started the Russia investigation properly.
That is not the issue, the issue is the FBI's spying on the Trump campaign and illegally setting up Flynn, Popadopulous, and Carter Page.
The Durham investigation will indict the guilty, and then the democrats can whine about a "banana republic" when they get caught.

There’s no “setting up” of Flynn and Papadopoulos. Page was never indicted.

1. Carter Page was accused of working a deal with Russia for 19% of a Russian oil giant worth ($11b) if he got Trump to remove sanctions. (a setup lie)
2. Popadopolus was setup by Mifsud telling him that Russia had thousands of Hillary Clinton's emails (a setup lie)
3. Flynn was setup by a "perjury trap" and squeezed by FBI threats to his son. (a setup)
4. The other Trump associate spied on by the FBI was Paul Manafort, he was toast as soon as he joined the Trump team. (not a setup, but a FISA abuse)

Carter Page was never indicted because his FISA warrant was based on all lies. The 2-hop rule means that they can spy on any Trump team member.
Popadope got 2-weeks, and more spying on Trump
Flynn was hated by the Obama admin, and was really fucked over unfairly. I hope Trump pardons him.

1. Page was never indicted. No one in the DoJ accused him of anything.
2. Papadopolous wasn’t set up. The IG report found no evidence of the zany conspiracy theory they Misfud was a plant.
3. That’s not what a perjury trap is. They asked him a question. He lied. Simple as that.
4. Paul Manafort was already under investigation before he joined Trump. It’s nobody’s fault that Trump picked him to run his campaign. Everyone knew he was a shady character.

You’re incorrect about the two hop rule. This is a mistake I’ve seen made a lot and it’s highly technical. There’s different parts to FISA. There’s title 1 warrants, the kind of surveillance you typically think of, wiretapping phones etc. That’s the surveillance Page was under. That’s not part of the two hop rule. The two hop rule comes in section 702, which sets up parameters for surveillance of non-citizens overseas, which does not apply to Page.

 

[BlindBoo]

Whoo-Hooo. Is it time to start locking people up yet? Comey, Clinton, Obama, Brennam, and the entire cast of characters or collusion'ist, dare I say Coup'ist. Are those indictment flying yet? Did I miss it?

 

[Crepitus]

Ted knocks the hard core radical leftists that are now being exposed for the RATS THEY TRULY ARE!

Except that the report doesn't say that.

 

[Crepitus]

Conservatives and republicans in America today, when they aren't apologists for Trump are conspiracy tools. Mention Obama or Hillary and you have them in your pocket. Email managed their minds and Obama's birthplace controlled their thoughts. What happened? I realize for some it is a balm that allows them to think if it wasn't for 'them', them can be anything today, the world would be a wonderful place. For me it is a wonderful place, but I am not a American conservative. lol Do you Trump snowflakes and conspiracy followers realize you are the ones being played? See bottom too.

"Conspiracy theories are dangerous for many reasons. Among other things, they provide a way to reduce mental distress by changing our perception of a problem without actually doing anything to solve the problem. They're the mental equivalent of a pacifier." Caroline Orr

What’s New About Conspiracy Theories?


"Conspiracy theories are first and foremost forms of political propaganda. They are designed to denigrate specific individuals or groups or advance a political agenda. The theory that the Clintons were somehow involved in the Epstein suicide denigrates the Clintons. The notion that the US government staged the 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School helped the pro-gun lobby to deflect arguments for greater gun control. What better way to pre-empt calls for greater gun control in the wake of a school shooting than to claim that it never happened?"
'Such beliefs promote extreme political agendas and allow governments to dismiss their critics as cranks.'

Why conspiracy theories are deeply dangerous

I Know Why Poor Whites Chant Trump, Trump, Trump

I Know Why Poor Whites Chant Trump, Trump, Trump

so everything obama did you're cool with trump doing it to the next dem candidate? for fucks sake y'all went apeshit when he said to look into bidens ukraine crimes. can you imagine what your pranced up side would do if trump did anywhere NEAR what obama did?

y'all are in "due process" of being busted for far greater crimes than "can you look into that" and you know it. rage on son. whether anything is done about it is phase 2 but from even a watered down report, what, 51 violations?

Except that according to the report President Obama didn't do anything, and by all real accounts there are no crimes by the Bidens.