"Cruz Can't Run" IS NOT a Conspiracy Theory: These Documents Actually Exist

[Silhouette]

I get it. The Liberal staff here don't want the GOP catching on that Cruz is not eligible to run. They don't want the RNC to ponder how the liberal-dominated SCOTUS majority will hear this case if Cruz is nominated.

There are legal scholars chomping at the bit for the first indication that Cruz is the GOP nominee. Upon that instant, they will press SCOTUS to decide on behalf of all 50 states (the only court where the jurisdiction is legitimate) whether or not Ted Cruz can run for POTUS having an Alberta Canada birth certificate and only having renounced in May, 2014.

Arguments are that since his mommy was born in the US, he was automatically a US citizen. Well his daddy was born in Cuba, so does that mean he also automatically is a Cuban citizen too? If a US man, a soldier on shore leave sires a child with a Russian woman and she raises it for its formative years in Russia, is that child also eligible for POTUS?

The intent of the founding fathers was for "natural born" to minimize the influences of any foreign government on the one Office in the country with the most singular unilateral power granted any man. Therefore, it and just it, has been isolated for the "natural born" requirement. The intent is everything. People who argue that the Constitution and its interpretations are progressive can't touch this argument. Since national security is at stake, there is no modification allowed of the very narrow terms and intent behind "natural born".

Having an Alberta, Canada birth certificate and only renouncing one's citizenship over 40 years later means you do not qualify for the narrow parameters of "natural born".

 

[PredFan]

The courts have ruled that Cruz is a US citizen. It's over, move on.

 

[Silhouette]

THE Court, the only one with jurisdiction over all 50 states HAS NOT AND HAS NEVER heard the case before. So you can line up 35 states that say "Cruz can run" but it matters not. A candidacy for president covers all 50 states so any singular state's judge who "has ruled" has not even legally heard the case. So their ruling isn't legal either. It's outside their jurisdiction.

A judge in New Jersey has ruled that Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) is indeed a natural-born citizen and is therefore eligible to be on the New Jersey ballot. Cruz, who was born in Calgary while his father was working there, is an American citizen via his mother's American citizenship. A Judge Just Decided If Ted Cruz Can Run For President...

The judge in New Jersey or anywhere else doesn't matter for a hill of beans. The problem is, since Cruz's candidacy affects all 50 states, the question's legal jurisdiction can ONLY BE SCOTUS. And they will hear it if Cruz gets the nomination. Mark my words. To the great embarrassment of the republican party.

 

[mdk]

The liberal staff here doesn't want the GOP catching on that Cruz is not eligible to run!? lol. Many conservatives and liberals here believe Cruz is eligible to be President.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Cruz Being a Natural Born Citizen of America IS NOT a Conspiracy Theory

 

[kaz]

I get it. The Liberal staff here don't want the GOP catching on that Cruz is not eligible to run. They don't want the RNC to ponder how the liberal-dominated SCOTUS majority will hear this case if Cruz is nominated.

There are legal scholars chomping at the bit for the first indication that Cruz is the GOP nominee. Upon that instant, they will press SCOTUS to decide on behalf of all 50 states (the only court where the jurisdiction is legitimate) whether or not Ted Cruz can run for POTUS having an Alberta Canada birth certificate and only having renounced in May, 2014.

Arguments are that since his mommy was born in the US, he was automatically a US citizen. Well his daddy was born in Cuba, so does that mean he also automatically is a Cuban citizen too? If a US man, a soldier on shore leave sires a child with a Russian woman and she raises it for its formative years in Russia, is that child also eligible for POTUS?

The intent of the founding fathers was for "natural born" to minimize the influences of any foreign government on the one Office in the country with the most singular unilateral power granted any man. Therefore, it and just it, has been isolated for the "natural born" requirement. The intent is everything. People who argue that the Constitution and its interpretations are progressive can't touch this argument. Since national security is at stake, there is no modification allowed of the very narrow terms and intent behind "natural born".

Having an Alberta, Canada birth certificate and only renouncing one's citizenship over 40 years later means you do not qualify for the narrow parameters of "natural born".

The US allows dual citizenship, it's irrelevant to the discussion whether he has Canadian citizenship

 

[Silhouette]

Cruz Being a Natural Born Citizen of America IS NOT a Conspiracy Theory

What SCOTUS case can you point to to verify that statement? None, that's right. Because they haven't heard the case yet. And they are the ONLY Court with jurisdiction to hear it upon Cruz's nomination. You're aware that the only Court with jurisdiction over all 50 states (affected all by a Cruz run) is SCOTUS, right?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I get it. The Liberal staff here don't want the GOP catching on that Cruz is not eligible to run. They don't want the RNC to ponder how the liberal-dominated SCOTUS majority will hear this case if Cruz is nominated.

There are legal scholars chomping at the bit for the first indication that Cruz is the GOP nominee. Upon that instant, they will press SCOTUS to decide on behalf of all 50 states (the only court where the jurisdiction is legitimate) whether or not Ted Cruz can run for POTUS having an Alberta Canada birth certificate and only having renounced in May, 2014.

Arguments are that since his mommy was born in the US, he was automatically a US citizen. Well his daddy was born in Cuba, so does that mean he also automatically is a Cuban citizen too? If a US man, a soldier on shore leave sires a child with a Russian woman and she raises it for its formative years in Russia, is that child also eligible for POTUS?

The intent of the founding fathers was for "natural born" to minimize the influences of any foreign government on the one Office in the country with the most singular unilateral power granted any man. Therefore, it and just it, has been isolated for the "natural born" requirement. The intent is everything. People who argue that the Constitution and its interpretations are progressive can't touch this argument. Since national security is at stake, there is no modification allowed of the very narrow terms and intent behind "natural born".

Having an Alberta, Canada birth certificate and only renouncing one's citizenship over 40 years later means you do not qualify for the narrow parameters of "natural born".

Arguments are that since his mommy was born in the US, he was automatically a US citizen. Well his daddy was born in Cuba, so does that mean he also automatically is a Cuban citizen too?

Maybe? What's Cuban law?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Cruz Being a Natural Born Citizen of America IS NOT a Conspiracy Theory

What SCOTUS case can you point to to verify that statement? None, that's right. Because they haven't heard the case yet. And they are the ONLY Court with jurisdiction to hear it upon Cruz's nomination. You're aware that the only Court with jurisdiction over all 50 states (affected all by a Cruz run) is SCOTUS, right?

What SCOTUS case can you point to to verify that statement?

Such a case has never come before the Supreme Court. Durr.

 

[Silhouette]

^^ Hey idiot ^^ That means the case has NEVER been heard by any court since SCOTUS is the ONLY Court with the jurisdiction over all 50 states the case affects.. "Der"...

The US allows dual citizenship, it's irrelevant to the discussion whether he has Canadian citizenship

Not for a POTUS run with a foreign birth certificate it doesn't. And that case hasn't been heard yet anywhere that had/has jurisdiction over it. Only SCOTUS can hear this case..

 

[jillian]

The courts have ruled that Cruz is a US citizen. It's over, move on.

it hasn't been before "the Courts". it was before one court and was dismissed because they challenged him too late, not because he's a "natural born citizen".

but thanks for your expertise.

 

[jillian]

The US allows dual citizenship, it's irrelevant to the discussion whether he has Canadian citizenship

Not for a POTUS run with a foreign birth certificate it doesn't. And that case hasn't been heard yet anywhere that had/has jurisdiction over it. Only SCOTUS can hear this case..

what are you blathering about?

 

[TheOldSchool]

I think at the least there should be an investigation.

 

[Silhouette]

it hasn't been before "the Courts". it was before one court and was dismissed because they challenged him too late, not because he's a "natural born citizen".

but thanks for your expertise.

The case has NEVER been before ANY court who had legitimate jurisdiction over it. A run for president affects all 50 states. There is only one court in the land with jurisdiction over cases that affect immediately all 50 states like an imminent presidential run. That court is SCOTUS.

 

[kaz]

^^ Hey idiot ^^ That means the case has NEVER been heard by any court since SCOTUS is the ONLY Court with the jurisdiction over all 50 states the case affects.. "Der"...

The US allows dual citizenship, it's irrelevant to the discussion whether he has Canadian citizenship

Not for a POTUS run with a foreign birth certificate it doesn't. And that case hasn't been heard yet anywhere that had/has jurisdiction over it. Only SCOTUS can hear this case..

No, there's no question, there's no restriction in immigration law on dual citizenship. So how does proving he was a Canadian citizen prove he wasn't an American citizen?

 

[Silhouette]

I think at the least there should be an investigation.

What do you think about the mods dumping all the threads about it into the "conspiracy theory" forum? Bullshit, right?

 

[kaz]

I think at the least there should be an investigation.

Right, it's not like investigating Democrats ...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

^^ Hey idiot ^^ That means the case has NEVER been heard by any court since SCOTUS is the ONLY Court with the jurisdiction over all 50 states the case affects.. "Der"...

The US allows dual citizenship, it's irrelevant to the discussion whether he has Canadian citizenship

Not for a POTUS run with a foreign birth certificate it doesn't. And that case hasn't been heard yet anywhere that had/has jurisdiction over it. Only SCOTUS can hear this case..

Not for a POTUS run with a foreign birth certificate it doesn't.

Show the Supreme Court ruling that backs your claim.

 

[TheOldSchool]

I think at the least there should be an investigation.

What do you think about the mods dumping all the threads about it into the "conspiracy theory" forum? Bullshit, right?

Absolutely.

 

[Silhouette]

No, there's no question, there's no restriction in immigration law on dual citizenship. So how does proving he was a Canadian citizen prove he wasn't an American citizen?

The requirement for natural born isn't broad and ambiguous. It's narrow, for a reason: national security. And the case has not yet been heard by any court with legitimate jurisdiction over it. A case that immediately affects all 50 states can only be heard by SCOTUS. Any judge in a singular state that heard it and passed a judgment...that judgment is worth exactly dick.