"CRISIS?" Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year LOW.

[flacaltenn]

Of course, Trump has set a strong precedent, and he isn't stopping until the issue is solved. There are over 10 million illegals in the country and we need that wall.

We already have walls and fences. That's why the numbers have fallen to record lows.

And exactly how is it a national emergency when we are at a 46 year low?

Because we're still playing tag in the cactus with about 800 a day and MISSING another 400 or so that don't get caught.. THat's in ADDITION to the 1200 a day at ports of entry that get processed for asylum, refugee status or work permits. and are usually detained and sent back..

More CHILDREN at the border. Many UNESCORTED.. Uncle Sam doesn't RUN orphanages. Need their parents to STOP sending them here. THAT by ITSELF is a fucking crisis..

That doesn't answer the question of how is it a national emergency when the numbers are improving year after year to the point we're at the lowest in nearly half a century. If it's now a national emergency, why wasn't it a national emergency a year ago when the numbers were higher? Or the year before that when they were even higher?

Anyone that's worked with 3rd or 4th gen Hispanics in Cali can tell you that THEY are appalled by the "level" of illegals that are coming in NOW versus 20 or 30 yrs ago... Largely because of the shift from folks coming focused on trades and skills and starting businesses -- to say 150,000 ORPHANED kids in a couple years that Uncle Sam let in and largely ignored. Or the rise of gang and drug afflicted people that just want safety and don't really even care about America.

Earlier waves converted "condemable" parts of my Cali town to thriving neighborhoods with soaring property values. Built businesses that the whole community used. When I left, roving bands of preteens were walking over the hood of Bimmer and humping in the book stacks at our Nationally recognized library.. Had no safety for my kids.. IT CHANGED.. And even the assimilated Hispanics could know this..

Numbers are lower largely BECAUSE of barriers going up and smarter enforcement. And what we're seeing are NOT economic refugees who snuck in. Caravans are largely the REFUGEES from failing narco states that just want to survive and are gladly RELEASED because they are the communist/socialist opposition to these corrupt dictators. Hernandez down in Honduras just STOLE an election last Nov. Both his brother and sister are in US CUSTODY for narco trafficking, money laundering in the US.. He's MORE than happy to see the caravans leave because his jails are filling with the commie/socialist activists that oppose his dictatorship...

Bad choice to make. Narco-dictator or commie narco opposition.. We don't WIN either way.. That's WHY all the Honduras/El Salvador flags in the recent caravans. These are folks who don't love America, they are just the political "defeated" fleeing a failing state...

That still avoids the questions I actually asked. Lemme try again... If it’s a national emergency now, why wasn’t it a year ago when the influx was greater than it is now? And if it was a national emergency then, then why didn’t trump declare it as one then when he couldn’t get funding for his wall?

IT WAS a crisis one, two, SIX years ago.. The amount fluctuates, the "quality" of the immigrants fluctuate. But the fact is -- we waste TOO MUCH human and equipment, time and money playing "Marco Polo" with a thousand or more border crashers a day. And we MISS about 40% of them or succeed in chasing them back over the border...

NONE of those Democratic "technology fixes" has the ability to CHASE, CAPTURE, PROCESS or care for ill border crashers.... That's how ridiculous your team sounds in this debate. Really comes off as naive and clueless..

 

[pismoe]

i can just see a buncha 'mexicans' of the FAUN Tribe at the border using the hacksaws and coping saws to cut through the concrete filled Slats CBlock .

 

[pismoe]

The TRIBE of FAUNS would saying , hey its a SAW !! [Chuckle]

 

[Faun]

There are different kinds of Saws suitable for different purposes Faun .

So again, you want to dismiss the claims because of the type of saw. And still, there’s no evidence any vehicle was involved in cutting through, as you hallucinated.

 

[Faun]

We already have walls and fences. That's why the numbers have fallen to record lows.

And exactly how is it a national emergency when we are at a 46 year low?

Because we're still playing tag in the cactus with about 800 a day and MISSING another 400 or so that don't get caught.. THat's in ADDITION to the 1200 a day at ports of entry that get processed for asylum, refugee status or work permits. and are usually detained and sent back..

More CHILDREN at the border. Many UNESCORTED.. Uncle Sam doesn't RUN orphanages. Need their parents to STOP sending them here. THAT by ITSELF is a fucking crisis..

That doesn't answer the question of how is it a national emergency when the numbers are improving year after year to the point we're at the lowest in nearly half a century. If it's now a national emergency, why wasn't it a national emergency a year ago when the numbers were higher? Or the year before that when they were even higher?

Anyone that's worked with 3rd or 4th gen Hispanics in Cali can tell you that THEY are appalled by the "level" of illegals that are coming in NOW versus 20 or 30 yrs ago... Largely because of the shift from folks coming focused on trades and skills and starting businesses -- to say 150,000 ORPHANED kids in a couple years that Uncle Sam let in and largely ignored. Or the rise of gang and drug afflicted people that just want safety and don't really even care about America.

Earlier waves converted "condemable" parts of my Cali town to thriving neighborhoods with soaring property values. Built businesses that the whole community used. When I left, roving bands of preteens were walking over the hood of Bimmer and humping in the book stacks at our Nationally recognized library.. Had no safety for my kids.. IT CHANGED.. And even the assimilated Hispanics could know this..

Numbers are lower largely BECAUSE of barriers going up and smarter enforcement. And what we're seeing are NOT economic refugees who snuck in. Caravans are largely the REFUGEES from failing narco states that just want to survive and are gladly RELEASED because they are the communist/socialist opposition to these corrupt dictators. Hernandez down in Honduras just STOLE an election last Nov. Both his brother and sister are in US CUSTODY for narco trafficking, money laundering in the US.. He's MORE than happy to see the caravans leave because his jails are filling with the commie/socialist activists that oppose his dictatorship...

Bad choice to make. Narco-dictator or commie narco opposition.. We don't WIN either way.. That's WHY all the Honduras/El Salvador flags in the recent caravans. These are folks who don't love America, they are just the political "defeated" fleeing a failing state...

That still avoids the questions I actually asked. Lemme try again... If it’s a national emergency now, why wasn’t it a year ago when the influx was greater than it is now? And if it was a national emergency then, then why didn’t trump declare it as one then when he couldn’t get funding for his wall?

IT WAS a crisis one, two, SIX years ago.. The amount fluctuates, the "quality" of the immigrants fluctuate. But the fact is -- we waste TOO MUCH human and equipment, time and money playing "Marco Polo" with a thousand or more border crashers a day. And we MISS about 40% of them or succeed in chasing them back over the border...

NONE of those Democratic "technology fixes" has the ability to CHASE, CAPTURE, PROCESS or care for ill border crashers.... That's how ridiculous your team sounds in this debate. Really comes off as naive and clueless..

Then why didn’t trump declare it a national emergency 2 years ago when he became president? Why not a year ago when he discovered the U.S. was not going to pay for it?

 

[pismoe]

the point of mentioning the vehicle is because the only suitable saw would be a big heavy saw and probably gas engined [sp] saw that no 'mexican' crossing the desert would be carrying in his back pack Faun . The saw capable of cutting those concrete filled tubes would need to be delivered by vehicle because of its weight and size Faun . imo .

 

[pismoe]

Because we're still playing tag in the cactus with about 800 a day and MISSING another 400 or so that don't get caught.. THat's in ADDITION to the 1200 a day at ports of entry that get processed for asylum, refugee status or work permits. and are usually detained and sent back..

More CHILDREN at the border. Many UNESCORTED.. Uncle Sam doesn't RUN orphanages. Need their parents to STOP sending them here. THAT by ITSELF is a fucking crisis..

That doesn't answer the question of how is it a national emergency when the numbers are improving year after year to the point we're at the lowest in nearly half a century. If it's now a national emergency, why wasn't it a national emergency a year ago when the numbers were higher? Or the year before that when they were even higher?

Anyone that's worked with 3rd or 4th gen Hispanics in Cali can tell you that THEY are appalled by the "level" of illegals that are coming in NOW versus 20 or 30 yrs ago... Largely because of the shift from folks coming focused on trades and skills and starting businesses -- to say 150,000 ORPHANED kids in a couple years that Uncle Sam let in and largely ignored. Or the rise of gang and drug afflicted people that just want safety and don't really even care about America.

Earlier waves converted "condemable" parts of my Cali town to thriving neighborhoods with soaring property values. Built businesses that the whole community used. When I left, roving bands of preteens were walking over the hood of Bimmer and humping in the book stacks at our Nationally recognized library.. Had no safety for my kids.. IT CHANGED.. And even the assimilated Hispanics could know this..

Numbers are lower largely BECAUSE of barriers going up and smarter enforcement. And what we're seeing are NOT economic refugees who snuck in. Caravans are largely the REFUGEES from failing narco states that just want to survive and are gladly RELEASED because they are the communist/socialist opposition to these corrupt dictators. Hernandez down in Honduras just STOLE an election last Nov. Both his brother and sister are in US CUSTODY for narco trafficking, money laundering in the US.. He's MORE than happy to see the caravans leave because his jails are filling with the commie/socialist activists that oppose his dictatorship...

Bad choice to make. Narco-dictator or commie narco opposition.. We don't WIN either way.. That's WHY all the Honduras/El Salvador flags in the recent caravans. These are folks who don't love America, they are just the political "defeated" fleeing a failing state...

That still avoids the questions I actually asked. Lemme try again... If it’s a national emergency now, why wasn’t it a year ago when the influx was greater than it is now? And if it was a national emergency then, then why didn’t trump declare it as one then when he couldn’t get funding for his wall?

IT WAS a crisis one, two, SIX years ago.. The amount fluctuates, the "quality" of the immigrants fluctuate. But the fact is -- we waste TOO MUCH human and equipment, time and money playing "Marco Polo" with a thousand or more border crashers a day. And we MISS about 40% of them or succeed in chasing them back over the border...

NONE of those Democratic "technology fixes" has the ability to CHASE, CAPTURE, PROCESS or care for ill border crashers.... That's how ridiculous your team sounds in this debate. Really comes off as naive and clueless..

Then why didn’t trump declare it a national emergency 2 years ago when he became president? Why not a year ago when he discovered the U.S. was not going to pay for it?

---------------------------------------- Because that was then and this is now Faun .

 

[Darkwind]

Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low
December 5, 2017
JOHN BURNETT
Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low

....Border officers apprehended 310,531 people for being in the country illegally in fiscal 2017, a 25% Decrease from the year before.

Arrests of people trying to cross illegally into the U.S. from Mexico PLUNGED to the Lowest level since 1971, as Fewer people attempted the trek, the Department of Homeland Security announced Tuesday......​

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Do you even realize that the crisis isn't who is being arrested but who is getting in?

 

[Faun]

That doesn't answer the question of how is it a national emergency when the numbers are improving year after year to the point we're at the lowest in nearly half a century. If it's now a national emergency, why wasn't it a national emergency a year ago when the numbers were higher? Or the year before that when they were even higher?

Anyone that's worked with 3rd or 4th gen Hispanics in Cali can tell you that THEY are appalled by the "level" of illegals that are coming in NOW versus 20 or 30 yrs ago... Largely because of the shift from folks coming focused on trades and skills and starting businesses -- to say 150,000 ORPHANED kids in a couple years that Uncle Sam let in and largely ignored. Or the rise of gang and drug afflicted people that just want safety and don't really even care about America.

Earlier waves converted "condemable" parts of my Cali town to thriving neighborhoods with soaring property values. Built businesses that the whole community used. When I left, roving bands of preteens were walking over the hood of Bimmer and humping in the book stacks at our Nationally recognized library.. Had no safety for my kids.. IT CHANGED.. And even the assimilated Hispanics could know this..

Numbers are lower largely BECAUSE of barriers going up and smarter enforcement. And what we're seeing are NOT economic refugees who snuck in. Caravans are largely the REFUGEES from failing narco states that just want to survive and are gladly RELEASED because they are the communist/socialist opposition to these corrupt dictators. Hernandez down in Honduras just STOLE an election last Nov. Both his brother and sister are in US CUSTODY for narco trafficking, money laundering in the US.. He's MORE than happy to see the caravans leave because his jails are filling with the commie/socialist activists that oppose his dictatorship...

Bad choice to make. Narco-dictator or commie narco opposition.. We don't WIN either way.. That's WHY all the Honduras/El Salvador flags in the recent caravans. These are folks who don't love America, they are just the political "defeated" fleeing a failing state...

That still avoids the questions I actually asked. Lemme try again... If it’s a national emergency now, why wasn’t it a year ago when the influx was greater than it is now? And if it was a national emergency then, then why didn’t trump declare it as one then when he couldn’t get funding for his wall?

IT WAS a crisis one, two, SIX years ago.. The amount fluctuates, the "quality" of the immigrants fluctuate. But the fact is -- we waste TOO MUCH human and equipment, time and money playing "Marco Polo" with a thousand or more border crashers a day. And we MISS about 40% of them or succeed in chasing them back over the border...

NONE of those Democratic "technology fixes" has the ability to CHASE, CAPTURE, PROCESS or care for ill border crashers.... That's how ridiculous your team sounds in this debate. Really comes off as naive and clueless..

Then why didn’t trump declare it a national emergency 2 years ago when he became president? Why not a year ago when he discovered the U.S. was not going to pay for it?

---------------------------------------- Because that was then and this is now Faun .

Then Trump is derelict in duty, according to you, for not taking action sooner.

 

[pismoe]

TRUMP has his agenda and schedule Faun .

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Why should I when somebody else already put up a graph that showed a massive increase in Oct and Nov.

You complain about ONE whole year (in a longer trend Down)... and then point to Two MONTHS.
You dishonest/hypocritical POS.
**** you Moron.

There's No "Crisis".
It's a just an excuse for someone to pay for yet another Failed Trump Project so he can put 5 big Gold letters on it.
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No, we elected Trump to get that wall built. What Trump is doing is his job; being a representative of the people who elected him.

 

[Correll]

Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low
December 5, 2017
JOHN BURNETT
Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low

....Border officers apprehended 310,531 people for being in the country illegally in fiscal 2017, a 25% Decrease from the year before.

Arrests of people trying to cross illegally into the U.S. from Mexico PLUNGED to the Lowest level since 1971, as Fewer people attempted the trek, the Department of Homeland Security announced Tuesday......​

`

Over THREE HUNDRED THOUSANDS caught trying to sneak into the country, and you consider that NOT a crisis?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low
December 5, 2017
JOHN BURNETT
Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low

....Border officers apprehended 310,531 people for being in the country illegally in fiscal 2017, a 25% Decrease from the year before.

Arrests of people trying to cross illegally into the U.S. from Mexico PLUNGED to the Lowest level since 1971, as Fewer people attempted the trek, the Department of Homeland Security announced Tuesday......​

`

LOL!!!! My how misleading.
Sure glad you can sight shit from 2017. (Just the election of Donald Trump dropped apprehensions dramatically for awhile )
What about the last few months???

They have been declining for Years.
You just say "misleading" withOUT posting numbers.
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If you live in a town where 20 women a year were getting raped, and that dropped to 10 a year, is that any reason to stop going after rapists?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low
December 5, 2017
JOHN BURNETT
Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low

....Border officers apprehended 310,531 people for being in the country illegally in fiscal 2017, a 25% Decrease from the year before.

Arrests of people trying to cross illegally into the U.S. from Mexico PLUNGED to the Lowest level since 1971, as Fewer people attempted the trek, the Department of Homeland Security announced Tuesday......​

`

That was 2017. Have you heard of the Caravans from South America???
Big news on border security
Aliens trying to enter the United States to claim asylum will no longer be released into our country, where they often disappear before an immigration judge can determine their claim’s merits.

Instead, these individuals will be processed by the Department of Homeland Security and given a “Notice to Appear” date. The Mexican government has made its own determination to provide humanitarian visas, work authorization, and other protections while these aliens await their hearing in a U.S. immigration court. They will also have access to immigration attorneys.

Those whose claims are upheld by U.S. judges will be allowed to enter the United States. Those without valid claims will be deported to their home countries.

Thanks to Trump.

Except for the fact none of them will be allowed into the US. Mexico has granted them asylum for the taking, and none of them accepted it. Therefore they have virtually zero chance of getting asylum here.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

------------------------------- or that rent the 'illegals' apartments , sell them houses , let them open bank accounts , let them go to school , be seen in public , give them foodstamps , give them drivers licenses , go to the hospital , yada , yada and yada Moonglow .

The democrats already offered a solution. Make it a felony to hire undocumented workers. But republicans rely on them to keep wages down. When democrats push for a $15 minimum wage, it has the effect of pushing low wage illegals out of the job market.

If there were no jobs for illegals, they would stay home.

So we have foreigners coming here breaking our laws, and your solution is to arrest Americans and make it harder on them to do business by doubling the minimum wage. Great idea, I don't know why I didn't think of it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

/—-/ So you admit walls work. Why do libtards want to stop more construction if they are proven successful?

Because we already have them.

Nobody said a wall didn't work, but a wall is just a means of slowing people down, more like a speed bump than an impenetrable barrier. The deterrent isn't the wall, it's the border agents that can be summoned to arrest them.

No, it's a deterrent to a lot of people, but not all. Most will not even try to get over the wall. It's just like any law we have in the USA. It stops most, but won't stop those who want to try and get away with it. And when they are found, they pay the price for breaking the law.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Of course, Trump has set a strong precedent, and he isn't stopping until the issue is solved. There are over 10 million illegals in the country and we need that wall.

We already have walls and fences. That's why the numbers have fallen to record lows.

And exactly how is it a national emergency when we are at a 46 year low?

The fact that we have so many illegals in the country makes it a national emergency.

But there is no shortage of Charmin in los banos...And as far as the illegals, how about we deport all citizens that give them jobs?

That's the typical leftist thinking. Illegals are invading our country, so don't lock them up, lock up the Americans.

Take the hay out of the barn and the mule will leave the barn.

Of just shoot the mule and end the mule problem............

 

[Lesh]

This is Trump's out.

Open the government and declare a state of Emergency...at which time the Courts will ask on what basis this emergency has been declared and he'll get his peepee smacked.

Then he can sulk in the corner and tell his adoring minions that the mean courts took it all away

It would be even better if it were the Ninth Circuit that smacked him down

 

[Thinker101]

This is Trump's out.

Open the government and declare a state of Emergency...at which time the Courts will ask on what basis this emergency has been declared and he'll get his peepee smacked.

Then he can sulk in the corner and tell his adoring minions that the mean courts took it all away

It would be even better if it were the Ninth Circuit that smacked him down

Get his peepee smacked? WTF.

 

[flacaltenn]

Because we're still playing tag in the cactus with about 800 a day and MISSING another 400 or so that don't get caught.. THat's in ADDITION to the 1200 a day at ports of entry that get processed for asylum, refugee status or work permits. and are usually detained and sent back..

More CHILDREN at the border. Many UNESCORTED.. Uncle Sam doesn't RUN orphanages. Need their parents to STOP sending them here. THAT by ITSELF is a fucking crisis..

That doesn't answer the question of how is it a national emergency when the numbers are improving year after year to the point we're at the lowest in nearly half a century. If it's now a national emergency, why wasn't it a national emergency a year ago when the numbers were higher? Or the year before that when they were even higher?

Anyone that's worked with 3rd or 4th gen Hispanics in Cali can tell you that THEY are appalled by the "level" of illegals that are coming in NOW versus 20 or 30 yrs ago... Largely because of the shift from folks coming focused on trades and skills and starting businesses -- to say 150,000 ORPHANED kids in a couple years that Uncle Sam let in and largely ignored. Or the rise of gang and drug afflicted people that just want safety and don't really even care about America.

Earlier waves converted "condemable" parts of my Cali town to thriving neighborhoods with soaring property values. Built businesses that the whole community used. When I left, roving bands of preteens were walking over the hood of Bimmer and humping in the book stacks at our Nationally recognized library.. Had no safety for my kids.. IT CHANGED.. And even the assimilated Hispanics could know this..

Numbers are lower largely BECAUSE of barriers going up and smarter enforcement. And what we're seeing are NOT economic refugees who snuck in. Caravans are largely the REFUGEES from failing narco states that just want to survive and are gladly RELEASED because they are the communist/socialist opposition to these corrupt dictators. Hernandez down in Honduras just STOLE an election last Nov. Both his brother and sister are in US CUSTODY for narco trafficking, money laundering in the US.. He's MORE than happy to see the caravans leave because his jails are filling with the commie/socialist activists that oppose his dictatorship...

Bad choice to make. Narco-dictator or commie narco opposition.. We don't WIN either way.. That's WHY all the Honduras/El Salvador flags in the recent caravans. These are folks who don't love America, they are just the political "defeated" fleeing a failing state...

That still avoids the questions I actually asked. Lemme try again... If it’s a national emergency now, why wasn’t it a year ago when the influx was greater than it is now? And if it was a national emergency then, then why didn’t trump declare it as one then when he couldn’t get funding for his wall?

IT WAS a crisis one, two, SIX years ago.. The amount fluctuates, the "quality" of the immigrants fluctuate. But the fact is -- we waste TOO MUCH human and equipment, time and money playing "Marco Polo" with a thousand or more border crashers a day. And we MISS about 40% of them or succeed in chasing them back over the border...

NONE of those Democratic "technology fixes" has the ability to CHASE, CAPTURE, PROCESS or care for ill border crashers.... That's how ridiculous your team sounds in this debate. Really comes off as naive and clueless..

Then why didn’t trump declare it a national emergency 2 years ago when he became president? Why not a year ago when he discovered the U.S. was not going to pay for it?

You are so entirely lost over this why didn't he -- that you're not even PONDERING how ridiculous this whole toddler screaming match is... Your side offers NOTHING but whines. Whines about technology that doesn't apprehend or process or CHASE anyone.. Whines about immorality of border control -- be it sick children or walls. And this juvenile horseshit about "no crisis"...

Since you're ducking all that to question the TIMING OF SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED THIRTY FUCKING YEARS AGO --- lemme ask you a couple questions.. If you ignore it -- we're pretty much done...

There's no crisis with airliners full of people arriving at JFK from overseas either. What is the method of "herding" the passengers directly to Customs and Passport??? Is that method IMMORAL and do you want to tear it down?