This ins't a debate over gun control, this is a debate over the argument that gun control is pointless because criminals won't follow the law. It seems like a flawed argument to me, and one that is a very slippery slope. If there's no point because criminals won't obey the law then why bother with other laws? Drug laws. People still use drugs. Speeding laws. People still speed. Domestic violence laws. People still beat their spouse. Copyright laws. Software pirating is running rampant. Wouldn't these laws fall under the same category that they're pointless because they're not working? Criminals obviously aren't obeying them. What laws are we willing to scrap because they're seemingly ineffective? Are we really willing to say that once a criminal activity reaches a certain level we might as well just legalize it? I'm all for responsible gun ownership, and plan to own an AR-15 one day (once I get that much cash to blow). But a lot of the arguments that are coming from the gun rights advocates don't make a lot of sense to me.