Creationism vs Intelligent Design?

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    Some dupe just told me they're wicked different.

    Anyone want to take a stab at explaining exactly where the two disagree?
     
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    My understanding is that ID recognizes the valid points of the theory of evolution, and creationism does not.
    Since the 'Darwin did not address how life starts, ID says it started by some 'inteligent interference', some directing 'force with a plan'.
    That's my understanding anyway.
     
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    They are really not. Once you understand that ID came about as a reaction to Edwards V. Aguillard as a means to try and insert creationism into the classrooms, ID is "creationism lite" for all intensive purposes. This was the conclusion of the court in Dover and why they lost in 2005.

    This is from Wiki, but the first paragraph does a pretty good job of summing it all up:

    Intelligent design - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    Exactly which points are those?

    Is one of them the notion that humans evolved naturally from some other species?
     
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    The part that the id people recognize is the part that shows different species have common traits. At least that's what I have been able to gather.
    The ID theory seems to be a way for religious people, christians especially, to reconcile their religous beliefs with science.

    It might be helpful to get someone who actually holds this opinion to answer these kind of questions.

    Of course if you simply want to attack someone, then it doesn't matter who answers your questions.
     
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    You got your answer on the very first post and got the person you wanted to respond to post on the very first page.

    Its a good day for manifold.
     
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    The red part is your strawman
     
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    Pilg, facts are not stawmen.

    Nice fail, though.
     
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    I don't think so, Skippy.

    Read Judge Jones' opinion of the matter.

    Then research the Wedge Document.

    I have no problem with ID. I have a problem with ID being introduced as a competing scientific theory for evolution.

    Why?

    Because it is not a scientific theory.
     
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    Which is why i left the rest of that post alone.

    The part in red is the strawman though.

    ID came about because some scientists realized that Darwin can't explain everything. They want to find out the scientific answers to explain the gaps.


    Then you have flat-earthers who try to tear down these people who want to do research because they are closed minded flat-earther types.

    If we never questioned science then We would still be using newtonian physics.
     

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