Creating jobs 101 for dummies (Obama)

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Just like the last election Obama isn't focusing on job creation but instead job destruction. Obama wants to attack the job creators through taxiation.

The solution is simple. Pass a bill granting a yearly reduction of your total tax burdon for each new hire that has exceeded a 6 month minimum with the company. The exact amount of the deduction could be negotiated but a large carrot would be best. Any decrease in revenues could easily be offset by the revenues gained from the new hire. On top of that new hires would then be capable of spending beyond what they could as the unemployed further sparking the economy.

Yet Obama wants to just raise taxes thinking our economy will respond like it did during the tech explosion of the Clinton years.

Even me, a construction person, can see the upside to ideas like mine as well as the downside to those Obama proposes. Which leaves one question......

What is his motivation? It certainly doesn't appear to be to create jobs or better the economy. Any stimulus will only impact the market once. Then the money dries up and were right back where we started only deeper in debt.

 

[Decus]

The man has no vision for the country that he can clearly articulate. He has no plan to achieve his stated intentions and has no budget to guide the process. And you want to know his motivation? Golf, world-class accommodations, free travel for family and friends and front row seats to Wayne Newton. Look all you want but you won't find anything more sinister than the fact that this guy is a self-centered clown.

 

[Freemason9]

Stupid post.

Do you want to increase employment? Here's how:

Increase consumer demand by increasing median disposable incomes.
(Problem solved.)

 

[Decus]

Stupid post.

Do you want to increase employment? Here's how:

Increase consumer demand by increasing median disposable incomes.
(Problem solved.)

You seem pretty smart - so please tell me what the president's plan is. Don't skip the details.

 

[occupied]

Just like the last election Obama isn't focusing on job creation but instead job destruction. Obama wants to attack the job creators through taxiation.

The solution is simple. Pass a bill granting a yearly reduction of your total tax burdon for each new hire that has exceeded a 6 month minimum with the company. The exact amount of the deduction could be negotiated but a large carrot would be best. Any decrease in revenues could easily be offset by the revenues gained from the new hire. On top of that new hires would then be capable of spending beyond what they could as the unemployed further sparking the economy.

Yet Obama wants to just raise taxes thinking our economy will respond like it did during the tech explosion of the Clinton years.

Even me, a construction person, can see the upside to ideas like mine as well as the downside to those Obama proposes. Which leaves one question......

What is his motivation? It certainly doesn't appear to be to create jobs or better the economy. Any stimulus will only impact the market once. Then the money dries up and were right back where we started only deeper in debt.

Yeah Obama called on congress last year to do something like that but they of course did nothing because the last thing they wanted was more jobs, but that is beside the point, jobs are created by demand for goods and services and especially the availability of easy credit and the confidence to assume that debt, not really any direct way to stimulate that.

 

[Oddball]

Stupid post.

Do you want to increase employment? Here's how:

Increase consumer demand by increasing median disposable incomes.
(Problem solved.)

And just how does Oboingo or any of his Keynesian socialist glee club propose to do that without sacking my disposable income or sapping its buying power?

Please be specific.

 

[tooAlive]

The only job Obama is creating is called unemployment.

 

[occupied]

Quote from Jobs act of 2011:

First, the American Jobs Act of 2011 provides a tax cut
for small businesses, to help them hire and expand now, and an
additional tax cut to any business that hires or increases
wages. In addition, the American Jobs Act of 2011 puts more
money in the pockets of working and middle class Americans by
cutting in half the payroll tax that comes out of the paycheck
of every worker, saving typical families an average of $1,500 a
year.


Bet you hated the idea at the time.

 

[RDD_1210]

Stupid post.

Do you want to increase employment? Here's how:

Increase consumer demand by increasing median disposable incomes.
(Problem solved.)

And just how does Oboingo or any of his Keynesian socialist glee club propose to do that without sacking my disposable income or sapping its buying power?

Please be specific.

You're rich? I have real doubts about that.

 

[Oddball]

Quote from Jobs act of 2011:

First, the American Jobs Act of 2011 provides a tax cut
for small businesses, to help them hire and expand now, and an
additional tax cut to any business that hires or increases
wages. In addition, the American Jobs Act of 2011 puts more
money in the pockets of working and middle class Americans by
cutting in half the payroll tax that comes out of the paycheck
of every worker, saving typical families an average of $1,500 a
year.


Bet you hated the idea at the time.

You really don't know shit about shit, do you?

No employer hires new people just to get a measly tax break from doing so....They hire more in anticipation of producing more.

 

[Oddball]

Stupid post.

Do you want to increase employment? Here's how:

Increase consumer demand by increasing median disposable incomes.
(Problem solved.)

And just how does Oboingo or any of his Keynesian socialist glee club propose to do that without sacking my disposable income or sapping its buying power?

Please be specific.

You're rich? I have real doubts about that.

Didn't say anything about being rich.

Please try reading for comprehension.

 

[Decus]

Just like the last election Obama isn't focusing on job creation but instead job destruction. Obama wants to attack the job creators through taxiation.

The solution is simple. Pass a bill granting a yearly reduction of your total tax burdon for each new hire that has exceeded a 6 month minimum with the company. The exact amount of the deduction could be negotiated but a large carrot would be best. Any decrease in revenues could easily be offset by the revenues gained from the new hire. On top of that new hires would then be capable of spending beyond what they could as the unemployed further sparking the economy.

Yet Obama wants to just raise taxes thinking our economy will respond like it did during the tech explosion of the Clinton years.

Even me, a construction person, can see the upside to ideas like mine as well as the downside to those Obama proposes. Which leaves one question......

What is his motivation? It certainly doesn't appear to be to create jobs or better the economy. Any stimulus will only impact the market once. Then the money dries up and were right back where we started only deeper in debt.

Yeah Obama called on congress last year to do something like that but they of course did nothing because the last thing they wanted was more jobs, but that is beside the point, jobs are created by demand for goods and services and especially the availability of easy credit and the confidence to assume that debt, not really any direct way to stimulate that.

Shapley & Roth thanked you in their acceptance speech and stated for the record that they couldn't have done it without you........you are a clown.

 

[RDD_1210]

And just how does Oboingo or any of his Keynesian socialist glee club propose to do that without sacking my disposable income or sapping its buying power?

Please be specific.

You're rich? I have real doubts about that.

Didn't say anything about being rich.

Please try reading for comprehension.

Ahhh, so your disposable income wouldn't be sacked. Thus making your question a strawman of your typical variety.

 

[occupied]

Quote from Jobs act of 2011:

First, the American Jobs Act of 2011 provides a tax cut
for small businesses, to help them hire and expand now, and an
additional tax cut to any business that hires or increases
wages. In addition, the American Jobs Act of 2011 puts more
money in the pockets of working and middle class Americans by
cutting in half the payroll tax that comes out of the paycheck
of every worker, saving typical families an average of $1,500 a
year.


Bet you hated the idea at the time.

You really don't know shit about shit, do you?

No employer hires new people just to get a measly tax break from doing so....They hire more in anticipation of producing more.

Not saying I necessarily agreed with it but the OP suggests pretty much the same thing proposed by Obama and the democrats last year and sneered at by the republicans.

 

[AmyNation]

Just like the last election Obama isn't focusing on job creation but instead job destruction. Obama wants to attack the job creators through taxiation.

The solution is simple. Pass a bill granting a yearly reduction of your total tax burdon for each new hire that has exceeded a 6 month minimum with the company. The exact amount of the deduction could be negotiated but a large carrot would be best. Any decrease in revenues could easily be offset by the revenues gained from the new hire. On top of that new hires would then be capable of spending beyond what they could as the unemployed further sparking the economy.

Yet Obama wants to just raise taxes thinking our economy will respond like it did during the tech explosion of the Clinton years.

Even me, a construction person, can see the upside to ideas like mine as well as the downside to those Obama proposes. Which leaves one question......

What is his motivation? It certainly doesn't appear to be to create jobs or better the economy. Any stimulus will only impact the market once. Then the money dries up and were right back where we started only deeper in debt.

Good idea.

 

[RDD_1210]

Stupid post.

Do you want to increase employment? Here's how:

Increase consumer demand by increasing median disposable incomes.
(Problem solved.)

This about sums it up </thread>

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Quote from Jobs act of 2011:

First, the American Jobs Act of 2011 provides a tax cut
for small businesses, to help them hire and expand now, and an
additional tax cut to any business that hires or increases
wages. In addition, the American Jobs Act of 2011 puts more
money in the pockets of working and middle class Americans by
cutting in half the payroll tax that comes out of the paycheck
of every worker, saving typical families an average of $1,500 a
year.


Bet you hated the idea at the time.

Because Obama wasn't smart enough to submit the bill clean. He watered it down with all other nature of bullshit

 

[RDD_1210]

Just like the last election Obama isn't focusing on job creation but instead job destruction. Obama wants to attack the job creators through taxiation.

The solution is simple. Pass a bill granting a yearly reduction of your total tax burdon for each new hire that has exceeded a 6 month minimum with the company. The exact amount of the deduction could be negotiated but a large carrot would be best. Any decrease in revenues could easily be offset by the revenues gained from the new hire. On top of that new hires would then be capable of spending beyond what they could as the unemployed further sparking the economy.

Yet Obama wants to just raise taxes thinking our economy will respond like it did during the tech explosion of the Clinton years.

Even me, a construction person, can see the upside to ideas like mine as well as the downside to those Obama proposes. Which leaves one question......

What is his motivation? It certainly doesn't appear to be to create jobs or better the economy. Any stimulus will only impact the market once. Then the money dries up and were right back where we started only deeper in debt.

Ok, with that idea in mind, why not extend the top tax rates for those who actually create jobs, permanent positions that can be verified and for those who aren't creating jobs at the top bracket have their rates bumped to pre-bush levels.

 

[Oddball]

Stupid post.

Do you want to increase employment? Here's how:

Increase consumer demand by increasing median disposable incomes.
(Problem solved.)

This about sums it up </thread>

No, no it doesn't..And neither does you cheap attempt at deflection from the broader economic concept, by trying to make the issue about me.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Quote from Jobs act of 2011:

First, the American Jobs Act of 2011 provides a tax cut
for small businesses, to help them hire and expand now, and an
additional tax cut to any business that hires or increases
wages. In addition, the American Jobs Act of 2011 puts more
money in the pockets of working and middle class Americans by
cutting in half the payroll tax that comes out of the paycheck
of every worker, saving typical families an average of $1,500 a
year.


Bet you hated the idea at the time.

You really don't know shit about shit, do you?

No employer hires new people just to get a measly tax break from doing so....They hire more in anticipation of producing more.

Not saying I necessarily agreed with it but the OP suggests pretty much the same thing proposed by Obama and the democrats last year and sneered at by the republicans.

Bullshit. Obama proposed a one time tax credit not a lower tax rate for the entire year.