Couple Sues Wal-Mart for Calling Cops Over Bath Time Photos

[manifold]

Parents Sue Wal-Mart After Children Taken Away Over Bath Time Photos - ABC News

 

[strollingbones]

i would have to see the photos..i have photos of son nekkid as a child...but not a lot....one from when he was 6 or 7....laying down in the tub...peeing in the air....it is on the grand parent fridge...and then professional protaits ....in one he is nekkid but nothing shows...what parent doesnt take nekkid photos...and i honestly dont think much of the genitals showing...but then....i would not take my photos to walmart...they must report anything they see as odd etc...

 

[xsited1]

Parents Sue Wal-Mart After Children Taken Away Over Bath Time Photos - ABC News

Wal-Mart isn't to blame. It's the legislators who write the laws that require companies like Wal-Mart to report such photos.

 

[strollingbones]

yea them child porno laws are just too restrictive....did you really mean to post that?

 

[RodISHI]

Parents Sue Wal-Mart After Children Taken Away Over Bath Time Photos - ABC News

Wal-Mart isn't to blame. It's the legislators who write the laws that require companies like Wal-Mart to report such photos.

Or the fault goes to those who pursued this family. Parents take pictures of their children in the tub, on the pot or wherever. Their cute little buggers. Once the parent takes the film into a public place it becomes a public issue that can be and should be reviewed but I would say with enough caution not to invade that families privacy.

 

[manifold]

The part that bothered me was the decision to take their children away and put the parents on the sex offender list. These are personal family photos. It's not like they busted the dad selling them to perverts online or in a back alley for crying out loud.

 

[xotoxi]

Wal-mart was doing their duty to alert the authorities. I would not want an hourly Walmart associate try to use their judgment and be the final arbitor as to whether or not something is porn.

I don't know if the authorities made the right decision or not...I haven't seen the pics.

 

[xsited1]

Wal-mart was doing their duty to alert the authorities. I would not want an hourly Walmart associate try to use their judgment and be the final arbitor as to whether or not something is porn.

I don't know if the authorities made the right decision or not...I haven't seen the pics.

Yep. And the authorities believe they made the right decision.

The police and Child Protective Services saw it very differently. Police and prosecutors insist they did what they thought was appropriate. Steve Meissner, a spokesman for Child Protective Services, released a statement saying, "When a police agency calls us on a matter, we have an obligation to act on that matter. If we refused, the community would be very unhappy with us."

The city of Peoria also states that it stands behind the appropriate actions of their officers.

To me, these are silly laws, but I don't write the laws. Wal-Mart just did what they were ordered to do and the authorities agreed with the decision.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Sometimes common sense needs to prevail. In this case it didn't.

 

[AllieBaba]

I don't have any completely naked photos of my kids. I have a couple of the boys in underwear, one of one of some of the kids in the tub (but you can't see anything), and one of about 7 kids in a tub, which is actually a treasure, because it's of my younger two and all their Indian cousins getting a bath after playing in the dirt in their grandma's backyard. They have no contact now, so it's really one of the only pics of them all together.

None of those kids is 4 y.o. yet, in the photo.

 

[Catbert]

Kudos to WalMart personnel for reporting it. There are far too many pedophiles in our society, and someone needs to watch out for and intervene for those who cannot speak up for themselves.

What happened after WalMart's reporting this is not WalMart's problem, but a reflection on the legal system.

I don't understand the need to photograph your children bathing and lying together naked. The old "bearskin rug" shot is cute, but anything more than that, in my humble opinion, is inappropriate.
I can't imagine those children growing up and saying, "Oh, I just love this childhood photo of me where you can see my little genitals."

How do the parents teach these children who they can and can't display their bodies to? You can't simply allow "family" viewing, because their are sickos within families. I worry for these children.

 

[Care4all]

i'm pretty certain the Pedophiles are using Digital cameras and their own computer to download, vs getting their film developed at a walmart....

 

[xsited1]

i'm pretty certain the Pedophiles are using Digital cameras and their own computer to download, vs getting their film developed at a walmart....

These people did use a digital camera.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Kudos to WalMart personnel for reporting it. There are far too many pedophiles in our society, and someone needs to watch out for and intervene for those who cannot speak up for themselves.

What happened after WalMart's reporting this, is not WalMart's problem, but a reflection on the legal system.

I don't understand the need to photograph your children bathing and lying together naked. The old "bearskin rug" shot is cute, but anything more than that, in my humble opinion, is inappropriate.
I can't imagine those children growing up and saying, "Oh, I just love this childhood photo of me where you can see my little genitals."

How do the parents teach these children who they can and can't display their bodies to? You can't simply allow "family" viewing, because their are sickos within families. I worry for these children.

You can't tell the difference between an innocent photo of a child's bath time and child pornography? Would any nude photos of a child constitute child porn?

I possess bath time photos of my kids when they were around 3 and 4 years old, does that make me a pedophile?

Like I said sometimes common sense has to prevail, you obviously possess none.

 

[Sarah G]

They should do something about the parents who encourage the provacative poses in those little girl pageants. They are anything but beautiful, they don't even look human with those hairstyles and all that makeup.

And they have all their clothes on.

I didn't see these particular Walmart pictures so I can't say but 8 pictures seems like a lot.

You have to be careful about what you're doing to these little ones. They grow up fast enough.

 

[Catbert]

Kudos to WalMart personnel for reporting it. There are far too many pedophiles in our society, and someone needs to watch out for and intervene for those who cannot speak up for themselves.

What happened after WalMart's reporting this, is not WalMart's problem, but a reflection on the legal system.

I don't understand the need to photograph your children bathing and lying together naked. The old "bearskin rug" shot is cute, but anything more than that, in my humble opinion, is inappropriate.
I can't imagine those children growing up and saying, "Oh, I just love this childhood photo of me where you can see my little genitals."

How do the parents teach these children who they can and can't display their bodies to? You can't simply allow "family" viewing, because their are sickos within families. I worry for these children.

You can't tell the difference between an innocent photo of a child's bath time and child pornography? Would any nude photos of a child constitute child porn?

I possess bath time photos of my kids when they were around 3 and 4 years old, does that make me a pedophile?

Like I said sometimes common sense has to prevail, you obviously possess none.

So, have you seen enough child porn to know the difference yourself?

Answer to your first question mark. "There's plenty of child porn "bathtime." Sometimes the child's confidence is gained slowly. (I didn't see the photos.)

To answer the text connected with your second question mark. "No."

Answer to third question mark. "Would have to see content of the photos."

You seem a little touchy via "common sense" comment. Guilt feelings, perhaps?

 

[xotoxi]

I'm also questioning the skill of this family's lawyers in defending them

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Kudos to WalMart personnel for reporting it. There are far too many pedophiles in our society, and someone needs to watch out for and intervene for those who cannot speak up for themselves.

What happened after WalMart's reporting this, is not WalMart's problem, but a reflection on the legal system.

I don't understand the need to photograph your children bathing and lying together naked. The old "bearskin rug" shot is cute, but anything more than that, in my humble opinion, is inappropriate.
I can't imagine those children growing up and saying, "Oh, I just love this childhood photo of me where you can see my little genitals."

How do the parents teach these children who they can and can't display their bodies to? You can't simply allow "family" viewing, because their are sickos within families. I worry for these children.

You can't tell the difference between an innocent photo of a child's bath time and child pornography? Would any nude photos of a child constitute child porn?

I possess bath time photos of my kids when they were around 3 and 4 years old, does that make me a pedophile?

Like I said sometimes common sense has to prevail, you obviously possess none.

So, have you seen enough child porn to know the difference yourself?

Answer to your first question mark. "There's plenty of child porn "bathtime." Sometimes the child's confidence is gained slowly. (I didn't see the photos.)

To answer the text connected with your second question mark. "No."

Answer to third question mark. "Would have to see content of the photos."

You seem a little touchy via "common sense" comment. Guilt feelings, perhaps?

Yes I have seen enough child porn to know the difference. I was a juror on a case that convicted a man of child porn and I had to see literally hundreds of images (none were "bathtime" photos) that was used as evidence in the case. The photo below in one of the eight photos in question and I'd argue that most families have pictures simliar to the one provided. A rational person would look at all the photos, 144 of them, and use their common sense.

 

[Care4all]

i'm pretty certain the Pedophiles are using Digital cameras and their own computer to download, vs getting their film developed at a walmart....

These people did use a digital camera.

ahhh, but they had walmart develop/print? Do pedophiles really take that risk, now a days?

 

[RodISHI]

i'm pretty certain the Pedophiles are using Digital cameras and their own computer to download, vs getting their film developed at a walmart....

These people did use a digital camera.

ahhh, but they had walmart develop/print? Do pedophiles really take that risk, now a days?

Many criminals are not very bright and some are very bold. If it were not for so many of these perverts that go after children it wouldn't be an issue. I feel very sorry for this family but still can society take a chance with a possibility of children being abused when some of it can be prevented?