Could we put the lies about Biden to bed now?

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    The standard of evidence isn't "A blind preschooler could see what’s going on here"....If you have no hard evidence, you have no case.
     
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    Why is Shokin a Free man living openly in Ukraine and the Corrupt Officials and friends of The Bidens he was Supposed to Investigate all FLED to Mother RUSSIA when an ANTI-Corruption Government was elected to power?

    Care to explain that?

    Russia 'helped Yanukovych to flee'

    Why was The Obama Administration trying to help Corrupt Ukrainians stay in Office and why were they opposing Anti-Corruption Candidates in The Ukraine?

    The Oligarchs Who Lost Ukraine and Won Washington
     
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    You’re straight up lying now. Impeachment inquiry is like taking depositions. The congressional process was followed, same that happened for Clinton. Witness testimony is evidence. Trail and the due process you are talking about happens once charges aren’t filed and the case goes to the senate. Get it straight man, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
     
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    The fact that Shokin was corrupt was evident even to Ukrainians. There were large protests against Shokin in Ukraine and a anti-corruption activist made this clear.
     
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    No they will never stop spewing those lies. Just like every other lie the far right radical extremists have been repeating for decades. Even though the lies have been debunked over and over for decades.

    You're dealing with people who believe Obama is from Kenya and Michelle Obama is a man. So that's the level of intelligence and honesty you're going to ever get from these far right radical extremists.

    They will never stop with the lies. That's all they have. Truth and reality certainly aren't on their side.
     
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    All of it is legit.
     
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    Spending at Trump properties by politicians went from $69k to $19 million. That’s an increase in 27500%. I’m sure that’s just a coincidence.
     
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    then you get to support votes against against impeachment. You get to say that you’re not convinced. This is a public opinion game now. What happened is clear as day to me, I think you know it’s too. Trump leveraged the aid to get Ukraine to announce these investigations. Clear and simple. I‘d still vote with you though... against impeachment. At least I can be honest about what’s going on.
     
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    We don’t actually investigate corruption in Ukraine. Those are Ukrainian legal matters. The most we can do is help them generate a strong justice system which has been challenging. Shokin’s replacement, Lutsenko, was initially felt to be a good choice but failed to live up to expectations.
     
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    "High crimes and misdemeanors" isn't about anybody's freaking opinion.....You either have verifiable evidence of the crime or you don't.
     

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