Could We Please Stop Calling Obama, Reid, and Pelosi Liberals?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Coloradomtnman, May 13, 2009.

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Are Obama, Reid, and Pelosi Liberals?

Poll closed Jun 3, 2009.
  1. No, they're centrists, you nazis!

    3 vote(s)
    13.0%
  2. Not really, but kinda: they do lean to the left a little.

    2 vote(s)
    8.7%
  3. Yes...no...I guess so - not? I don't know. I'm a Centrist.

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  4. Kinda, but not really: they do lean to the left a lot.

    2 vote(s)
    8.7%
  5. Yes, they're socialist hippies in suits, you pinkos!

    16 vote(s)
    69.6%
  1. Coloradomtnman
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    Look. I'm a liberal. Obama, Reid, and Pelosi are left-leaning centrists. If someone has voted the way Obama, Reid, and Pelosi have, they aren't liberals; they're centrists.

    Think of politics as a spectrum. Chomsky is a liberal, Nader is a liberal, the Green Party is liberal, but Democrats are not liberals. Democrats are centrists. Some Democrats voted for the Patriot Act for God's sakes! That isn't liberal. That's as right-wing as you can get from a liberal point of view. Anybody who doesn't immediately act to stop waterboarding isn't liberal. Anybody who supports clean coal isn't liberal. Anybody who maintains a military presence in Afghanistan isn't liberal. Anybody who bails out Wallstreet and the big national banks isn't liberal. If the spectrum goes from blue to red, then liberals are ultra-violet; anyone in the blue is just a liberalistic centrist with some right-wing tendencies.

    I know that those of you who see politics from the right-side of the spectrum perceive centrists as liberals, but remember: you have to adjust for bias. Its called Kentucky windage.
     
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    Oh oh, here it comes. In a week, they will be calling them right wing nuts. Just watch!

    Look, Bush was a flaming liberal, at least on spending and as for social policies, well, he sure wasn't my kind of conservative. We had every right to toss him your way... but, you ain't gonna pawn those three off on us! No way... no how!!!! :D

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    Colorado is right though, they are not liberals, and Immie, there are more positions than liberal and conservative, many more, a rainbow of positions if you may.
     
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    No, no! You have to keep Bush. Both of'em. We'll take Kucinich - if we have to. The Democrats can keep Obama, Reid, and Pelosi.
     
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    We're not taking Bush back. He's yours and you can have him.

    KK, I realize that and am not arguing with CMM about this. Just kidding around.

    Immie
     
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    Oops, there I go again ducking below the humor line ... :eusa_doh:
    I gotta stop letting them fly over my head. :razz:
     
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    Bush wasn't a liberal on spending policy. Being liberal doesn't mean "omg, lets spend money on anything and everything". It means spending money on the things we, as liberals, care about. Spending money on invading third world countries, and building up the military doesn't count as being liberal.
     
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    Alright, I tell you what, you take Bush and we'll take Obama. Deal?
     
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    Tis okay KK... I didn't wave the sarcasm flag.

    Sorry, Nik, you missed my poor attempt at humor as well.

    Immie
     
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    If you believe the right wing propaganda that wild spending is equivelant with liberal, then one could conclude that Bush was a liberal. Also if you believe the right wingers, you would believe that any one to the left of Limbaugh is communist pinko.

    If you are a righty then everyone to your left is a lefty but if you look to your right and see no one then clearly you are on the extreme right and every one to you left are only gradations of the spectrum.

    This is the position we find our national politics in the wake of thiry years of rightward tilt.
     

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