Could Palin actually win in 2012 Y/N??

If nominated by the GOP and the economy is as it is today could Palin win?

  • NO. Palin is not electable, no how no way, NEVER

    Votes: 13 46.4%
  • YES. Desperate voters do desperate things, look at 2008.

    Votes: 4 14.3%
  • NO. she would get crushed in the presidential debate, she simply isn't smart enough

    Votes: 4 14.3%
  • YES. The people "who cling to guns & religion" have faith in Sarah

    Votes: 7 25.0%

  • Total voters
    28

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The 2010 elections proved a few things, actually old adages..."voters ALWAYS vote THEIR wallet." Ideology only goes so far. In 2008 the GOP fucked-up and deserved to lose, they did, and look to whom...a first term senator.

If the economy does not improve by election day 2012, does anyone believe that Palin could not win?

Is "drill baby drill" any worse than "energy costs necessarily need to skyrocket"?

Lets do a poll on 2012....
 
Palin is viewed unfavorably by most Americans, and is too well known now to be able to do much to improve that number.

Who ever heard of anyone winning the presidency with a high unfavorability number? Anyone?
 
Nope, she couldn't. What the Rep party needs to do is nominate a relatively unknown young Senator and promise change.
 
Sure she could, as a group Americans are pretty stupid.

Yes, they are, they put a Muslim Marxist in the WH who had never even run a lemonade stand. And his ineptitude becomes more apparent every day. Sarkozy, the President of France, told the media that Odumbo might be insane.

French Leader Sarkozy Slams Obama, Warns He Might Be Insane | EUTimes.net

I care about what the President of France thinks about Obama about as much as I care what the President of Mexico thinks of our immigration laws. Which is to say none at all.
 
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Palin is viewed unfavorably by most Americans, and is too well known now to be able to do much to improve that number.

Who ever heard of anyone winning the presidency with a high unfavorability number? Anyone?

Someone said that being president is all about "character". I'm not a Palin fan, but if she is the GOP choice and the dems don't get the economy improved by 2012, Palin would probably get elected. I look at Clinton's presidency and we heard the same GOP whining about the 2% tax increase, and that turned out to be bullshit. If the GOP congress cuts spending, and Obama keeps the tax increase and the Debt starts to trend down and the economy improves, who knows...Bubba Clinton had two terms....
Lets hope that the mid-term election re-focuses the Obama admin and they start making common-sense policy instead of politically correct bullshit.
 
Nope, she couldn't. What the Rep party needs to do is nominate a relatively unknown young Senator and promise change.

:) Yep it is now the Tea Partiers that are all hopey changey with their messiah Paul of Kentucky.
funny how that works out.

any vids yet of Rand riding a unicorn under the rainbow?
 
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LOL, ran across this today..thought of Palin.;)

ABC News-Harris Survey
For Release: Tuesday AM, January 29th, 1980 Vol. II No. 13 ISSN 0163-4846
CARTER NOW FAR AHEAD OF BOTH REAGAN AND BUSH
By Louis Harris
President Carter so dominates the American political scene now that his margin over Ronald Reagan in a post-Iowa trial heat has risen to an overwhelming 65-31 percent. And against George Bush, the GOP candidate who finished first in the recent Iowa caucuses, Carter leads by only a slightly lower 62-32 percent.
These latest ABC News -Harris Survey results, taken among a cross section of 1,195 likely voters on January 22nd, dramatically illustrate the incredible political comeback of President Carter. Only four months ago, Reagan held a 50-45 percent lead over Carter. This means that a 5 point deficit has been turned into a 34 point lead over this short span of time. This is the largest lead President Carter has held over any Republican since July 1976, when he was 39 points ahead of President Gerald Ford.
The magnitude of Carter's lead can best be grasped by examining where the Carter-Reagan contest stands among groups which are usually Republican in their preference:
--In the suburbs, Carter is now ahead of Reagan by a massive 66-30 percent. Voters between 50 and 64 years of age prefer Carter by 63-34 percent, and he has no~ soared to a 67-25 percent lead among those who are 65 and over. Among voters with incomes of $25,000 or more, Carter's margin is 60-36 percent. Business executives favor the President by a narrow 50-48 percent. Most startling of all, among those who c~ll themselves conservatives, Carter has a substantial 57-39 percent edge. Together, these groups of voters form the base of the modern Republican Party. Indeed, among Republican voters, Reagan is ahead, but only by a 61-37 percent margin. For the GOP to lose 37 percent of their party's faithful would be nothing short of disaster.
--So-called "swing" groups of voters, whose support is indispensable to either party in a close election, are also going for Carter by massive margins. Smalltown voters now prefer Carter by 60-35 percent. The college educated back the President by 61-35 percent. In the $15,000 to $25,000 income group, where Reagan is strongest, Carter nonetheless leads by 59-37 percent. Middle of the road voters are now behind Carter by 67-30 percent. Political independents give him a 63-32 percent lead.
--But Carter's strongest showing is among those groups who traditionally form the backbone of the Democratic Party. In the big cities, Carter is ahead of Reagan by 68-27 percent. Among young people under 30, he leads by 71-27 percent. Among blacks, he holds a lopsided 89-5 percent edge. Among Catholics, Carter is ahead by 68-29 percent. Among Jewish voters, he is winning by 75-18 percent. Among all Democrats, Carter is winning by 82-14 percent. And among political liberals, he is leading by 75-21

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/va...FAR-AHEAD-OF-BOTH-REAGAN-AND-BUSH-1980-01.pdf
 
Sure she could, as a group Americans are pretty stupid.

Yes, they are, they put a Muslim Marxist in the WH who had never even run a lemonade stand. And his ineptitude becomes more apparent every day. Sarkozy, the President of France, told the media that Odumbo might be insane.

French Leader Sarkozy Slams Obama, Warns He Might Be Insane | EUTimes.net

I care about what the President of France thinks about Obama about as much as I care what the President of France thinks of our immigration laws. Which is to say none at all.

If that's what the French soclalists are saying about a fellow Socialist, imagine what the rest of the world is saying.
 
She presents a Primary challenge to the Gop that's why they won't allow her to get anywhere. If by some twist of fate she pulls it out and moves into the General, she'll lose and stop the GOP win.

Palin is tool and nothing more to the GOP.
 
LOL, ran across this today..thought of Palin.;)

ABC News-Harris Survey
For Release: Tuesday AM, January 29th, 1980 Vol. II No. 13 ISSN 0163-4846
CARTER NOW FAR AHEAD OF BOTH REAGAN AND BUSH
By Louis Harris
President Carter so dominates the American political scene now that his margin over Ronald Reagan in a post-Iowa trial heat has risen to an overwhelming 65-31 percent. And against George Bush, the GOP candidate who finished first in the recent Iowa caucuses, Carter leads by only a slightly lower 62-32 percent.
These latest ABC News -Harris Survey results, taken among a cross section of 1,195 likely voters on January 22nd, dramatically illustrate the incredible political comeback of President Carter. Only four months ago, Reagan held a 50-45 percent lead over Carter. This means that a 5 point deficit has been turned into a 34 point lead over this short span of time. This is the largest lead President Carter has held over any Republican since July 1976, when he was 39 points ahead of President Gerald Ford.
The magnitude of Carter's lead can best be grasped by examining where the Carter-Reagan contest stands among groups which are usually Republican in their preference:
--In the suburbs, Carter is now ahead of Reagan by a massive 66-30 percent. Voters between 50 and 64 years of age prefer Carter by 63-34 percent, and he has no~ soared to a 67-25 percent lead among those who are 65 and over. Among voters with incomes of $25,000 or more, Carter's margin is 60-36 percent. Business executives favor the President by a narrow 50-48 percent. Most startling of all, among those who c~ll themselves conservatives, Carter has a substantial 57-39 percent edge. Together, these groups of voters form the base of the modern Republican Party. Indeed, among Republican voters, Reagan is ahead, but only by a 61-37 percent margin. For the GOP to lose 37 percent of their party's faithful would be nothing short of disaster.
--So-called "swing" groups of voters, whose support is indispensable to either party in a close election, are also going for Carter by massive margins. Smalltown voters now prefer Carter by 60-35 percent. The college educated back the President by 61-35 percent. In the $15,000 to $25,000 income group, where Reagan is strongest, Carter nonetheless leads by 59-37 percent. Middle of the road voters are now behind Carter by 67-30 percent. Political independents give him a 63-32 percent lead.
--But Carter's strongest showing is among those groups who traditionally form the backbone of the Democratic Party. In the big cities, Carter is ahead of Reagan by 68-27 percent. Among young people under 30, he leads by 71-27 percent. Among blacks, he holds a lopsided 89-5 percent edge. Among Catholics, Carter is ahead by 68-29 percent. Among Jewish voters, he is winning by 75-18 percent. Among all Democrats, Carter is winning by 82-14 percent. And among political liberals, he is leading by 75-21

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/va...FAR-AHEAD-OF-BOTH-REAGAN-AND-BUSH-1980-01.pdf

I am hearing a lot of the same things said about Palin as they said about Reagan. What I remember the most coming from the Left and some on the right was that he was a Grade B actor who wasn't very intelligent. They laughed at him the way they laugh at Palin now.

I don't know if she would be my first choice, not knowing what the choices will be, but I'd love to see her win if for nothing else than to see the liberals going out of their minds and hopefully leaving the country.
 
She presents a Primary challenge to the Gop that's why they won't allow her to get anywhere. If by some twist of fate she pulls it out and moves into the General, she'll lose and stop the GOP win.

Palin is tool and nothing more to the GOP.

dead on.
 
The country would have to be in total ruin for her to have any chance at all. as in 25 percent unemployment....
 
Could Palin actually win in 2012 Y/N??


Why not? I think we should just let her win. This back and forth between the margins is getting old. This country is so full of reactionary fuckwit christion fundimentalist morons that we should just let em take the reigns and thoroughly destroy the USA. No more half measures. As soon as the country fails for real...anarchy is inevitable... all of societies safegaurds fail... the streets will be war zones and the much needed ethnic cleansing of stupid people can commence. That is IMO the only possible solution towards a rebirth of a decent America. Kill all of the haters, bigots, religious fundimentalists.... Most of em will kill each other...best plan is to sit it out for a few months then pick off the few that survive.
 
Palin, much like G.W., has the amazing ability to make you feel stupid for having a similar position as her on any given issue.
 
Oh the MSM would go berserk, but the truth is that their ratings are so low that only about 20% of the electorate even listens/watches/reads them.

OTOH a Palin run could be Odonnell/Miller/Angle/Whitman/Fiorina on steroids. She isn't presidential timber, doesn't have the skill sets or experience, but then again, her advisers would be a lot better than the czars we now have. Looks like Rohm is going to take the fall for the mid-terms and not Pelosi. Thank you Jesus!! Nancy is back!!
 

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