Could Iran "Win" in the Straight of Hormuz?

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    Long term the answer is obviously no; however, that doesn't mean Iran could not prevail long enough to kill 20,000 US servicemen and women according to a 2002 Pentagon simulation:

    From GlobalResearch:

    "Even the Pentagon’s own war simulations have shown that a war in the Persian Gulf with Iran would spell (initial) disaster for the United States and its military.

    "One key example is the Millennium Challenge 2002 (MC02) war game in the Persian Gulf, which was conducted from July 24, 2002 to August 15, 2002 and took almost two years to prepare...

    "Millennium Challenge 2002 was held shortly after the Pentagon had decided that it would continue the momentum of the war in Afghanistan by targeting Iraq, Somalia, Sudan, Libya, Lebanon, Syria, and finishing off with the big prize of Iran in a broad military campaign to ensure U.S. primacy in the new millennium..."

    "The scenario in the 2002 war game started with the U.S., codenamed 'Blue,' giving Iran a one-day ultimatum to surrender in the year 2007.

    "The war game’s date of 2007 would chronologically correspond to U.S. plans to attack Iran after the Israeli attack on Lebanon in 2006, which was to extend, according to military plans, into a broader war against Syria.

    "The war against Lebanon, however, did not go as planned and the U.S. and Israel realized that if Hezbollah could challenge them in Lebanon then an expanded war with Syria and Iran would be a disaster.

    "In Millennium Challenge 2002’s war scenario, Iran would react to U.S. aggression by launching a massive barrage of missiles that would overwhelm the U.S. and destroy sixteen U.S. naval vessels – an aircraft carrier, ten cruisers, and five amphibious ships.

    "It is estimated that if this had happened in real war theatre context, more than 20,000 U.S. servicemen would have been killed in the first day following the attack. [6]"

    The Geo-Politics of the Strait of Hormuz: Could the U.S. Navy be defeated by Iran in the Persian Gulf?

    20,000 US servicemen and women dead in the first 24 hours followed by 200,000 -2,000,000 Muslim civilians killed in revenge within weeks (days?) Does anyone seriously believe scenarios like Millennium Challenge would be conceived if war was not a racket?
     
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    no.
     
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    Sounds like fun ! Is there a website that'll have a live feed ? :cuckoo:
    Fucking lunatics.
     
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    Not a chance.

    Iran would be stomped flat and left for dead.

    That's assuming the pols had balls and didn't order the JCS to play patty fuckin cake.
     
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    Are you a speed-reader?

    "Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya is a Sociologist and award-winning author. He is a Research Associate at the Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG), Montreal. He specializes on the Middle East and Central Asia. He has been a contributor and guest discussing the broader Middle East on numerous programs and international networks such as Al Jazeera, Press TV and Russia Today. Nazemroaya was also a witness to the "Arab Spring" in action in North Africa. While on the ground in Libya during the NATO bombing campaign, he reported out of Tripoli for several media outlets. He sent key field dispatches from Libya for Global Research and was Special Correspondent for Pacifica's syndicated investigative program Flashpoints, broadcast out of Berkeley, California. His writings have been published in more than ten languages. He also writes for the Strategic Culture Foundation (SCF) in Moscow, Russia.

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    You are aware the military does exercises to learn how to prepare for contingencies? And we are not discussing invading Iran so there wouldn't be all those amphibious ships full of Marines.

    I have my doubts that Iran could overwhelm the missile defenses of so many ships. And if they did they would get nuked most likely.

    Iran has zero chance of holding the Straights. They could interfere for a short time with oil shipments but not for very long. The Arab States would authorize American deployments to their air fields and we would harm them with the Air Force the Navy and our own missiles.

    If we did any landings they would be to seize a couple key points and we would not stay longer then needed to demolish what ever we were after.
     
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    "The American-Iranian Cold War

    "Washington has been on the offensive against Iran using all means at its disposal. The tensions over the Strait of Hormuz and in the Persian Gulf are just one front in a dangerous multi-front regional cold war between Tehran and Washington in the broader Middle East.

    "Since 2001, the Pentagon has also been restructuring its military to wage unconventional wars with enemies like Iran. [10]

    "Nonetheless, geography has always worked against the Pentagon and the U.S. has not found a solution for its naval dilemma in the Persian Gulf. Instead of a conventional war, Washington has had to resort to waging a covert, economic, and diplomatic war against Iran."

    The Geo-Politics of the Strait of Hormuz: Could the U.S. Navy be defeated by Iran in the Persian Gulf?

    If and when the US dollar ceases to function as the world's reserve currency, it won't be possible for the Pentagon and Wall Street to borrow enough money to fight oil wars on the opposite side of the planet.

    Sounds like more bad news for Mexico.
     
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    Air superiority.
    Checkmate.
     
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    Bad news for all of us.
     

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