"Corporations are people my friend"

[theHawk]

For profit Corprations have no other reason to exsist than to make money.

That means they can not be trusted to do the moral thing.

See how that works

I see.

Making money is wrong.

Maybe that's why the President is trying to hard to keep unemployment so high.

 

[Vel]

For profit Corprations have no other reason to exsist than to make money.

That means they can not be trusted to do the moral thing.

See how that works

Hmm.. let's see.. You've said that you keep rental property. You do that in order to make money don't you? OMG.. that must mean since you want to make money that you are an immoral slumlord that can't be trusted to see that your properties are safe and clean. We all know that the only reason people like you do the right thing is because someone else makes you under threat of penalty. Did I get that right?

 

[Sarah G]

Bye, bye Mr. Romney.

That's right, didn't corporations get the vote last year? That's how the teaparty took over the House.

 

[Vel]

Bye, bye Mr. Romney.

That's right, didn't corporations get the vote last year? That's how the teaparty took over the House.

Did they get the same vote the SEIU did?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Unions: worked to improve the lives of millions of Americans for over 100 years. Sucessfully changed our society to include laws against child labor, 40 hour workweek, weekends off, vaction time, health care, womens rights, work safety and many other society sustaining ideas.

Corporation: To seek to make a profit in the market.


Now If corporations are people then unions should be people too.

I think Unions are nicer people.

Well, then, I suppose you think 'mutual funds' aren't populated by individuals, either.

And to really put a pitchfork into your hot air balloon, how about corporations....let's say Exxon...

From the NYTimes:

“Exxon Mobil, in fact, is owned mostly by ordinary Americans. Mutual funds, index funds and pension funds (including union pension funds) own about 52 percent of Exxon Mobil’s shares. Individual shareholders, about two million or so, own almost all the rest. The pooh-bahs who run Exxon own less than 1 percent of the company.” Exxon Mobil Needs a Hug - New York Times


BTW, where do you suppose unions invest their pensions?
Right...the stocks of CORPORATIONS!
So, when does Romney receive your appology???

 

[PoliticalChic]

Anybody can incorporate. Corporations -R-Us. I'm not a big fan of Romney but he is right and I am truly surprised at the attitude of radical lefties.

You can't be surprised as the knee-jerk reaction of the anti-business, anti-success jerks, Whitey.

No matter what Romney says, they will gasp, cover their mouth with the back of their hand, and pretend to have he vapors.

"Unless things change and Obama can run on accomplishments, he will have to kill Romney."http://spectator.org/blog/2011/08/09/kill-romney#

Obama need not 'kill' Romney (poor choice of a word, btw). Romney does a good job himself of hurting his chances at nomination/election. And, I suppose the attacks from the far right on Romney are benign in your opinion since they are not mentioned in your post.

Being pro labor does not equate with being anti-business or anti-success in any rational way. Give up on the hyperbole and inane partisan conclusions and you might one day achieve some credibility. As you are now perceived by all but the echo chamber as a troll, I suspect it will take a good long while to lose that moniker.

Now, Wryster, why would you think that I need to defend Romney from "the attacks from the far right"?

This thread isn't by the 'far right," it's by the mind-numbed, knee-jerk, anti-business, pro-crony capitalism, socialist doctrinaire Left.
(How's that for a mouthful?)

And, truth be known, most of you guys think I'm a card-carrying member of the "far right."
So, you probably realize that Romney is far from my first choice.

BUT I'd trample the wounded and hurtle the dead to cast a vote for anybody running against Obama!

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nope not true.

If all corporations were employee owned that would not be true.

Syndicalists Unite!

 

[PoliticalChic]

For profit Corprations have no other reason to exsist than to make money.

That means they can not be trusted to do the moral thing.

See how that works

Here is one of those moral things that unions do:

While lobbying for the EFCA, the SEIU fired 75 of its 220 employees, ‘cause, you know, they needed that $60 million for Obama, so the employees filed an NLRB unfair practices suit. (NATIONAL BRIEFING - LABOR - Union Is Accused of Violations - Brief - NYTimes.com)

 

[BDBoop]

Romney's heckler was a liberal operative sent in to disrupt things. Typical mob mentality. Those darn coporations with their evil CEOs need to be shut down so we all can be unemployed and enjoy the teet of the nanny state. The problem there is that other people's money would soon run out. Wait, the money has already run out.

Orly? SO, you honest-to-god believe that only Romney supporters who are in lockstep agreement with Romney would be at that meeting? You don't think anybody who just happens to be there, and happens to believe taxes need to go up, could have attended?

A bit naive, I feel.

 

[BDBoop]

Romney was clearly incorrect. A person, as defined by dictionary.com, is a human being or self-aware entity. "people" refers to two or more persons. A corporation is an organization of people. The members of a corporation are people but corporations are not people.

Romney's point seems to have been that corporate profits go to people, rather than being swallowed by some faceless entity. This is certainly true, and I don't think that his phrasing indicates that he was lying or crazy. However, I do think it has the potential to embarrass him politically. Anti-corporatism is alive and well, and I expect that if Romney makes it to the general election he's going to see quite a few "Corporations are people, my friend" running against him.

Well, the people they go to are rich people. His allusion was 'trickle down.'

 

[Ame®icano]

Unions: worked to improve the lives of millions of Americans for over 100 years. Sucessfully changed our society to include laws against child labor, 40 hour workweek, weekends off, vaction time, health care, womens rights, work safety and many other society sustaining ideas.

Corporation: To seek to make a profit in the market.


Now If corporations are people then unions should be people too.

I think Unions are nicer people.

Where would unions be without corporations?

 

[Ame®icano]

Nope not true.

If all corporations were employee owned that would not be true.

Since they're not, then it's true...

 

[Sallow]

Unions: worked to improve the lives of millions of Americans for over 100 years. Sucessfully changed our society to include laws against child labor, 40 hour workweek, weekends off, vaction time, health care, womens rights, work safety and many other society sustaining ideas.

Corporation: To seek to make a profit in the market.


Now If corporations are people then unions should be people too.

I think Unions are nicer people.

Where would unions be without corporations?

Working for small businesses?

Like for example nearly all the communities which had ma and pop stores before the tentacles of Walmart grabbed them?

 

[Ame®icano]

Unions: worked to improve the lives of millions of Americans for over 100 years. Sucessfully changed our society to include laws against child labor, 40 hour workweek, weekends off, vaction time, health care, womens rights, work safety and many other society sustaining ideas.

Corporation: To seek to make a profit in the market.


Now If corporations are people then unions should be people too.

I think Unions are nicer people.

Where would unions be without corporations?

Working for small businesses?

Like for example nearly all the communities which had ma and pop stores before the tentacles of Walmart grabbed them?

What do you think small business is?

 

[old navy]

Romney's heckler was a liberal operative sent in to disrupt things. Typical mob mentality. Those darn coporations with their evil CEOs need to be shut down so we all can be unemployed and enjoy the teet of the nanny state. The problem there is that other people's money would soon run out. Wait, the money has already run out.

Orly? SO, you honest-to-god believe that only Romney supporters who are in lockstep agreement with Romney would be at that meeting? You don't think anybody who just happens to be there, and happens to believe taxes need to go up, could have attended?

A bit naive, I feel.

Yeah, I actually thought they would check loyalty cards at the door like Obama does for his rent-a-crowds. The Internet is full of stories about the hecklers sent in to disrupt things. Any link I could post would be shot down (woops, sorry for the shooting reference) by you as a RW rag. Speaking of taxes, get a job and start paying some.

 

[asaratis]

I can't remember when it was that I first learned that...for legal purposes, corporations are considered to be fictitious persons. In order to matriculate court proceedings, corporations are people.

That particular fact is likely the second most unknown fact concerning corporations. The most unknown fact is that corporations DO NOT PAY TAXES!!! Other people pay all taxes imposed on a corporation that sells goods and services. All corporations do is raise there prices. The consumers pay the tax for them.

When they liberal tax hounds claim to be helping the general public by taxing large corporations, they are actually doing nothing more than raising the prices the corporations will charge for their goods and services to cover the additional tax.

God! People are STUPID!

 

[editec]

Unions: worked to improve the lives of millions of Americans for over 100 years. Sucessfully changed our society to include laws against child labor, 40 hour workweek, weekends off, vaction time, health care, womens rights, work safety and many other society sustaining ideas.

Corporation: To seek to make a profit in the market.


Now If corporations are people then unions should be people too.

I think Unions are nicer people.

And we should tax unions at exactly the same rate we tax corporations.

I suspect we tax unions at exactly the same rates we tax every other not-for-profit corporation.

 

[daveman]

Good point.

Labor union - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary



Would it be so outrageous to say "Unions are people"? Yes, it is an organization too. But its funny how we don't hear the rabid liberals wanting to define unions as greedy political entities.

Corporate political donations: A subversion of the process. Should be illegal.

Union political donations: The willathapeepul. What made America great.

I suppose it was an accident but Daveboy finally posted something which makes sense (fall of my chair sense given the source). All political donations = attempts to bribe public officials and should not be tax deductible and should be declared ordinary income and taxed.

Any other effort to bribe a public official should be a felony (jobs for kids or spouses, future employment/promises, golf trips and super bowl tickets, the use of prostitutes and yachts, vacation homes and travel, etc. etc.) and both the giver and receiver should be place in Prison (not county jail) for a least one year and a day, denied the right to hold public office in the future and fined ten times the amount offered or accepted.

Oh, and Citizens United v. FEC ought to be revisited by the Supreme Court and the above laws should be approved as necessary (and hopefully sufficient) to make our representatives in the Congress and the White House represent all of the people, not simply those who can buy access.

I have no problem with your recommendations -- as long as they're applied to everyone.

I do have a problem with your condescension. You're not as smart as you think you are. I'll give you a moment to come to grips with that reality.

But you won't. Arrogant shithead.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Romney was clearly incorrect. A person, as defined by dictionary.com, is a human being or self-aware entity. "people" refers to two or more persons. A corporation is an organization of people. The members of a corporation are people but corporations are not people.

Romney's point seems to have been that corporate profits go to people, rather than being swallowed by some faceless entity. This is certainly true, and I don't think that his phrasing indicates that he was lying or crazy. However, I do think it has the potential to embarrass him politically. Anti-corporatism is alive and well, and I expect that if Romney makes it to the general election he's going to see quite a few "Corporations are people, my friend" running against him.

^And here we have yet another example of a liberal genius^

Just too fuckin' stupid to understand the actual context of what was said.

Christ, these liberal moron's are actually trying to put this on a par with"

"They cling to their guns and religion"

"we're going to redistribute the wealth"

"typical white person"

"the police acted stupidly"

 

[Vel]

Unions: worked to improve the lives of millions of Americans for over 100 years. Sucessfully changed our society to include laws against child labor, 40 hour workweek, weekends off, vaction time, health care, womens rights, work safety and many other society sustaining ideas.

Corporation: To seek to make a profit in the market.


Now If corporations are people then unions should be people too.

I think Unions are nicer people.

And we should tax unions at exactly the same rate we tax corporations.

I suspect we tax unions at exactly the same rates we tax every other not-for-profit corporation.

I have no problem with taxing non profits on money they take in in excess of their operating expenses.