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Federal and state taxes added to a gallon of gas exceed oil company profits - so who is really doing the gouging here?
You really haven't thought this through, and must be using a republican sound bite. I used NY with the highest gas taxes, and current cost per gallon.
New York: (2.73 gl. - 62.9 tax = $2.10 profit)
The oil is free from Your leased government lands, and it costs .15 cents a gallon to refine it. BUT it takes 2 gl, crude to make 1 gl. of gasoline, so refining cost is .30 cents. But since there is no product left unsold because it goes into additives, making clothes, plastics, etc. there is actually more than .30 cents in profits, so I don't need to enter refinery costs or transportation costs. But I will anyway.........
New York: (2.73 gl. - 62.9 tax - .30 = $1.80 profit) So .63 is not more than 1.80, about 1/3.
U.S. Gasoline Taxes by State
You can avoid paying for gas if you are willing to make the lifestyle changes to reduce your consumption. If you aren't willing to do so, then we can only assume that the benefits you derive from using petrol are worth the price you are voluntarily paying.
Yes, being a rugged individual, you can do without a car that is also not inspected or required to meet any standards for brakes, lights, etc. And when things go bad, you have no recourse because you have no government governing.
[Your clear bias is showing...
Yes, unfortunately, that is how I see corporations and government.
Sad thing is most of the things you hate about big corporations were probably helped and empowered by Big Government in some simple to understand way.
I really wouldn't know. I do know regulations do not come out of thin air. There is a negative to a current situation that only government can solve forcing compliance.
I think the question of who would we trust more is just a childish way of looking at it. It's who would you rather deal with when you have a problem with them. Big Corp is simple to deal with, you don't buy their product... Government Goes to war in Iraq or passes Obamacare, you are forced to pay.
If you don't buy the product, I guess you didn't need it. In a free market you would have no taxes (++++++PLUS), but you would have no protection (------Negative).
Federal and state taxes added to a gallon of gas exceed oil company profits - so who is really doing the gouging here?
You really haven't thought this through, and must be using a republican sound bite. I used NY with the highest gas taxes, and current cost per gallon.
New York: (2.73 gl. - 62.9 tax = $2.10 profit)
The oil is free from Your leased government lands, and it costs .15 cents a gallon to refine it. BUT it takes 2 gl, crude to make 1 gl. of gasoline, so refining cost is .30 cents. But since there is no product left unsold because it goes into additives, making clothes, plastics, etc. there is actually more than .30 cents in profits, so I don't need to enter refinery costs or transportation costs. But I will anyway.........
New York: (2.73 gl. - 62.9 tax - .30 = $1.80 profit) So .63 is not more than 1.80, about 1/3.
U.S. Gasoline Taxes by State
You can avoid paying for gas if you are willing to make the lifestyle changes to reduce your consumption. If you aren't willing to do so, then we can only assume that the benefits you derive from using petrol are worth the price you are voluntarily paying.
Yes, being a rugged individual, you can do without a car that is also not inspected or required to meet any standards for brakes, lights, etc. And when things go bad, you have no recourse because you have no government governing.
YOU are government. It is YOUR responsibility to run it. So if a corporation kills your family off with salmonella poison, you feel you can deal with them honestly? How about you lose an arm working for a corporation, will they treat you honestly? Did ENRON or EXXON treat it's employees and Americans in general honestly?
did you ever see how the Govt. treats its workers who are injured on the job?.....not much difference ......
I was being sarcastic. There's been items in news lately about government employees and retirees being delinquent in taxes to the tune of $3.5B+ (and at a higher rate than the national average).
Jeebus.
Corporations only do what gubmint regulators allow them to do.
They get their limited liabilities for their negligence and willing malfeasance from politicians and bureaucrats.
Corporations are the servants and gubmint is their master.
The false dichotomy remains....And you're a fool to keep falling fore it.
If I thought you were serious, I'd debate you and eat your lunch..... but alas, all you want to do is demonize Conservatives, and praise big gov't.
Waste of my VALUABLE time..... thanks, but no thanks!
I ditto your remarks. This thread is an absolute exercise for the weak-minded and would be futile. And YES Author of this exercise...that means YOU.
To the Author of this Idiotic Exercise [Heretofore known as the OP]
You don't get it otherwise you wouldn't be showing your uneducated ASS out in the open.
-BET-
Have a nice evening.
Regards,
~T
You can avoid paying for gas if you are willing to make the lifestyle changes to reduce your consumption. If you aren't willing to do so, then we can only assume that the benefits you derive from using petrol are worth the price you are voluntarily paying.
I have seen what corporations do to people, and what government does to people, and I would side with trusting government before I would ever trust a corporation.
Corporations don't care if people die. Whether it be a Katrina disaster or shutting off the electric power to families in the winter so they die of exposure. They want relaxed regulations so they can murder more people with their products cheaper. They have no use for repairing America, just raping it of its resources. The corporate way has made us a third world country.
I have seen what corporations do to people, and what government does to people, and I would side with trusting government before I would ever trust a corporation.
Corporations don't care if people die. Whether it be a Katrina disaster or shutting off the electric power to families in the winter so they die of exposure. They want relaxed regulations so they can murder more people with their products cheaper. They have no use for repairing America, just raping it of its resources. The corporate way has made us a third world country.
Government on the other hand has regulated the corporate enemys, built and maintained America, taken care of its people to keep them safe from the harm of corporations & greed. They are the ones that made it possible for electricity, for sanitzed water sources, dams, freeways, space travel, internet, and support many of these corporations so you can buy almost anything your want from anywhere in the world.
So what is your take & reasoning?
Corporations do and they have a lot more influence on government--than your vote.Capitalism is the economic manifestation of freedom.
~ the folks who invented democracyDemocracy destroys itself because it abuses its right to freedom and equality. Because it teaches its citizens to consider audacity as a right, lawlessness as a freedom, abrasive speech as equality, and anarchy as progress.
Capitalism is the economic manifestation of freedom.
So is armed robbery. NEXT!
~ the folks who invented democracy“Democracy destroys itself because it abuses its right to freedom and equality. Because it teaches its citizens to consider audacity as a right, lawlessness as a freedom, abrasive speech as equality, and anarchy as progress.”
You might as well be asking people whether they trust Don Vito Corleone more, over Fat Clemenza and Sal Tessio.
Capitalism is the economic manifestation of freedom.
So is armed robbery. NEXT!
~ the folks who invented democracyDemocracy destroys itself because it abuses its right to freedom and equality. Because it teaches its citizens to consider audacity as a right, lawlessness as a freedom, abrasive speech as equality, and anarchy as progress.
uhhh...depriving one's rights is not a manifestation or a practice of liberty...i hope you were being sarcastic and i just dont get it.
one who advocates for freedom and liberty is not advocating for anarchy. Government is necessary to enforce laws that provide a consequence for an individual depriving another individual of their rights. That, along with maintaining a currency, and protecting the boarders are the only job of the federal government according the founders via the federalist papers. Our current federal government, arguably since Lincoln, and without a doubt after wilson and FDR, is an assault on liberty. I implore you to find the definition of "soft tyranny" and understand that is the type of umbrella in which americans live under. It is mostly fake freedom, as compared to the pure freedom envisioned by the founders and embodied in the constitution when read and understood as written.
Side note: who exactly said your quote? The founders I know abhorred democracy and spoke strongly against it. Advocating instead for a republic.
In these sentiments, Sir, I agree to this Constitution with all its faults, if they are such; because I think a general Government necessary for us, and there is no form of Government but what may be a blessing to the people if well administered, and believe farther that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic Government, being incapable of any other.
