Corporation vs Government: Who Do You Trust?

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  1. shintao
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    I have seen what corporations do to people, and what government does to people, and I would side with trusting government before I would ever trust a corporation.

    Corporations don't care if people die. Whether it be a Katrina disaster or shutting off the electric power to families in the winter so they die of exposure. They want relaxed regulations so they can murder more people with their products cheaper. They have no use for repairing America, just raping it of its resources. The corporate way has made us a third world country.


    Government on the other hand has regulated the corporate enemys, built and maintained America, taken care of its people to keep them safe from the harm of corporations & greed. They are the ones that made it possible for electricity, for sanitzed water sources, dams, freeways, space travel, internet, and support many of these corporations so you can buy almost anything your want from anywhere in the world.

    So what is your take & reasoning?
     
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    If I thought you were serious, I'd debate you and eat your lunch..... but alas, all you want to do is demonize Conservatives, and praise big gov't.

    Waste of my VALUABLE time..... thanks, but no thanks!
     
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    I have worked for both: USG 4-years military and 3 years as GS employee both hourly and salaried; Corporations two very large ones, RR Donnelly & Son's Co, and Westinghouse Electric Corporation. I found much less favoritism, and greater advancement for merit in the corporations. The very highest levels of both tend to suck.

    And about caring if people die: Westinghouse was found responsible for allowing PCB's get outside their factory and into waste facilities and the local soil, but they honored their obligations to clean it up, collecting and safely burning many thousands of tons of soil, and setting up monitoring facilities to keep them in check.
     
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    I trust neither one, not in the slightest bit.
     
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    Neither.

    Also, since the biggest multi-national corporation in the world is known as "District of Columbia" (per a little known piece of legislation; 16 Stat, 419*), the question is not only a false dichotomy but it ignores the fact that gubmints are the source of all corporate privilege and power.

    You might as well be asking people whether they trust Don Vito Corleone more, over Fat Clemenza and Sal Tessio.

    * Established: Effective June 1, 1871, by an act of February 21, 1871 (16 Stat. 419), abolishing the Corporations of the City of Washington, DC, and Georgetown, DC, and the Levy Court of Washington County, DC; and replacing them with a municipal corporation known as the District of Columbia. Source: National Archives

    OpEdNews - Article: U.S. Corporate Takeover... of the United States of America
     
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    I tend to trust corporations because their motive is profit, which is understandable. I know that if I can appeal to them on that basis I can deal with them honestly. I also know that the people who work for corporations understand this, and we can talk the same language.

    Government is about power, and I cannot deliver any power to them. As a result government views me as insignificant. The people who work for government also understand this, and treat me as an inconvenience. We do not speak the same language.

    It would be nice to find someone that is willing to defend government honestly, wouldn't it?
     
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    Neither one, but I think corporations trust people more than the government trusts people.
     
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    Trust, in the long run. Neither. However the cooperation is much more predicable. We know what they want. Profits. It is much harder to guess what Government will do or fuck up next. :)
     
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    I don't trust either, what I do trust is true free markets which we don't have, unlike government, I can take my business from Business "A" to Business "B" if I was not satisfied with price or service, unlike government, I can sue a business that does me wrong, unlike government, I don't have to wait for years in hopes of change only to be disappointed;I can change immediately and unlike government, a business can't seize my assets or throw me in prison for not conforming to their wishes.
     
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    At higher levels of the GS, you find rewards for merit, while lower echelon is regulated by time served, correct? I can think of a handful of CIA that got advancements under Bush. The Military is basicall a little of both. You have to have the time first, then the merit, before you advance. Of course there are exceptions for heroism that can can scoot you up the ladder.

    I wonder if the clean up was due to government intervention and inspections?
     
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