Coral reefs on the edge of extinction

we heard this crap in the 80's and 90's,....dude, please huh?

oh wait, its the end of the century now, they said that in 1978 too....and here we are.....

What's your point? if it's still true, it's still true. "Please, dude" just isn't good enough.

truth is relative in the GB field......to the max.

Relative to what? I'm more concerned with the irrelevancies we keep hearing in the debate, like "the climate has varied many times" and "what's the proper temp of the earth?". The first is irrelevant because we're talking about changes over a relatively short period of time vs the 100s of thousands to millions of years involved in other variations. Secondly, the "proper temp" that one should be concerned about is not that of the earth itself, but that under which human civilation flourished. The earth will continue along its merry way long after we're gone, but the concern of AGW theory is what more heat will do to US right now!!!
 
Humans Caused Historic Great Barrier Reef Collapse - Yahoo! News

Not so surprising.

A bit more so...

The study, published Nov. 6 in the Proceedings of the Royal Society B, found that runoff from farms clouded the pristine waters off the Queensland coast and killed the natural branching coral species, leaving a stunted, weedy type of coral in its place. The findings suggest that decades before climate change and reef tourism, humans were disrupting the ecology of the Great Barrier Reef.
 
Chinese pollution kills off 80% of coral in So. China Sea...
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China’s boom bangs up coral reefs
Fri, Dec 28, 2012 - China’s economic boom has seen its coral reefs shrink by at least 80 percent over the past 30 years, a joint Australian study found yesterday, with researchers describing “grim” levels of damage and loss.
Scientists from the Australian Research Council Centre of Excellence for Coral Reef Studies and the South China Sea Institute of Oceanology said their survey of Chinese and South China Sea reefs showed alarming degradation. “We found that coral abundance has declined by at least 80 percent over the past 30 years on coastal fringing reefs along the Chinese mainland and adjoining Hainan Island,” said the study, published in the latest edition of the journal Conservation Biology. “On offshore atolls and archipelagos claimed by six countries in the South China Sea, coral cover has declined from an average of greater than 60 percent to around 20 percent within the past 10-15 years,” it added.

Coastal development, pollution and overfishing linked to the Asian giant’s aggressive economic expansion were the major drivers, the authors said, describing a “grim picture of decline, degradation and destruction.” “China’s ongoing economic expansion has exacerbated many wicked environmental problems, including widespread habitat loss due to coastal development, unsustainable levels of fishing, and pollution,” the study said. Coral loss in the South China Sea — where reefs stretch across about 30,000 square kilometers — was compounded by poor governance stemming from competing territorial claims.

Some marine parks aimed at conservation had been established, but study author Terry Hughes said they were too small and too far apart to arrest the decline in coral cover. “The window of opportunity to recover the reefs of the South China Sea is closing rapidly, given the state of degradation revealed in this study,” he said. More than 30 years of unbridled economic growth has left large parts of China environmentally devastated, with the nation suffering from some of the most severe air, water and land pollution in the world, global studies have shown.

Such destruction has led to widespread local frustration and a number of protests, some of which have succeeded in getting proposed new factories and facilities canceled or postponed. The government has laid out a road map to transform China’s development mode to one that is more environmentally friendly and less dependent on headlong economic growth. The South China Sea is strategically significant, home to some of the world’s most important shipping lanes and believed to be rich in resources.

China?s boom bangs up coral reefs - Taipei Times
 
Humans Caused Historic Great Barrier Reef Collapse - Yahoo! News

Not so surprising.

A bit more so...

The study, published Nov. 6 in the Proceedings of the Royal Society B, found that runoff from farms clouded the pristine waters off the Queensland coast and killed the natural branching coral species, leaving a stunted, weedy type of coral in its place. The findings suggest that decades before climate change and reef tourism, humans were disrupting the ecology of the Great Barrier Reef.

That is correct. Industrial runoff, agriculture on the scale we do it now is industrial, combined with the warming, is a real double whammy for all too many marine life forms. Because of economics, both are failing to be addressed. And both are creating a catastrophic situation in terms of the sea life that much of the human race depends on for food.
 
we heard this crap in the 80's and 90's,....dude, please huh?

oh wait, its the end of the century now, they said that in 1978 too....and here we are.....

What's your point? if it's still true, it's still true. "Please, dude" just isn't good enough.

truth is relative in the GB field......to the max.

Extremely rapid decline of the Arctic ice is truth. Rapid destruction of the alpine glaciers is truth. Increase in the number of extreme weather events is truth. An increase of atmospheric CO2 from 280 ppm to about 400 ppm in the last 150 years is the truth. And, at the present rate of increase, it will be over 500 ppm in less than 50 years. The increase of CH4 from 700 ppb to nearly 1800 ppb in this same period is truth. The effect of CH4 in a 20 year period is over 70 times that of CO2 is truth.

And the increase in the prices of food that we are seeing in the stores from the consequences of global warming at present is also truth.

You don't have to acknowledge truth, you can even deny the truth. It remains the truth.

Scientists have been telling us for year that there were going to be consequences for adding huge amount of GHGs to the atmosphere, now we can see them on a daily basis.
 
Humans Caused Historic Great Barrier Reef Collapse - Yahoo! News

Not so surprising.

A bit more so...

The study, published Nov. 6 in the Proceedings of the Royal Society B, found that runoff from farms clouded the pristine waters off the Queensland coast and killed the natural branching coral species, leaving a stunted, weedy type of coral in its place. The findings suggest that decades before climate change and reef tourism, humans were disrupting the ecology of the Great Barrier Reef.

That is correct. Industrial runoff, agriculture on the scale we do it now is industrial, combined with the warming, is a real double whammy for all too many marine life forms. Because of economics, both are failing to be addressed. And both are creating a catastrophic situation in terms of the sea life that much of the human race depends on for food.

So, it's not the "Warming" but you staple it on anyway.

That's not how science works
 
Not exactly a coral reef, but kinda cool...

Flaming-Orange Shellfish Reef Found in Scotland - Yahoo! News

A huge, colorful shellfish reef discovered off Scotland's west coast could be the largest of its kind in the world, according to the Scottish government.

Packing at least 100 million bright-orange shells into 4.5 square miles (7.5 square kilometers), the living reef consists of flame shells, a rare saltwater clam found near Scotland. Neon-orange tentacles emerge from between the clam's paired shells, waving gently in the current.
 
Not exactly a coral reef, but kinda cool...

Flaming-Orange Shellfish Reef Found in Scotland - Yahoo! News

A huge, colorful shellfish reef discovered off Scotland's west coast could be the largest of its kind in the world, according to the Scottish government.

Packing at least 100 million bright-orange shells into 4.5 square miles (7.5 square kilometers), the living reef consists of flame shells, a rare saltwater clam found near Scotland. Neon-orange tentacles emerge from between the clam's paired shells, waving gently in the current.
It seems they found their niche!

I found this but there wasn't any sound. Still, it shows the Flaming-Orange Shellfish for a closeup look if placed on full screen (lower right) and on button lines clicked when the picture shows (lower left) to isolate and take a closer look at the Flaming-Orange Shellfish.

[ame="http://youtu.be/YoJh_MPqnk4"]Scottish Shellfish Reef 'Is World's Largest' - YouTube[/ame]
 
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