Copout: Parents brought children to America; no fault of their own

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Just because a child is brought here by a parent has he/she lost his citizenship in his native country? No. He/she can exist there.

It's a copout to say oh we're hurting these children who were brought here through no fault of their own. That's b.s. families are responsible for their fates. And to reward those families while other families are legally waiting is irresponsible.

Frankly, it's obvious that Obama created this bleeding heart narrative on the heels of an election b/c who wants to be a hard ass and say fair is fair?

Sorry dude, but the standard is you're a citizen of your native country and you have to legally apply for citizenship. Just b/c your mommy or daddy broke the law doesn't give you any special rights that others do not have.
 
Just because a child is brought here by a parent has he/she lost his citizenship in his native country? No. He/she can exist there.

It's a copout to say oh we're hurting these children who were brought here through no fault of their own. That's b.s. families are responsible for their fates. And to reward those families while other families are legally waiting is irresponsible.

Frankly, it's obvious that Obama created this bleeding heart narrative on the heels of an election b/c who wants to be a hard ass and say fair is fair?

Sorry dude, but the standard is you're a citizen of your native country and you have to legally apply for citizenship. Just b/c your mommy or daddy broke the law doesn't give you any special rights that others do not have.

Which should be plainly obvious, even if the leftards are too blinded to see it...
 
Just because a child is brought here by a parent has he/she lost his citizenship in his native country? No. He/she can exist there.

It's a copout to say oh we're hurting these children who were brought here through no fault of their own. That's b.s. families are responsible for their fates. And to reward those families while other families are legally waiting is irresponsible.

Frankly, it's obvious that Obama created this bleeding heart narrative on the heels of an election b/c who wants to be a hard ass and say fair is fair?

Sorry dude, but the standard is you're a citizen of your native country and you have to legally apply for citizenship. Just b/c your mommy or daddy broke the law doesn't give you any special rights that others do not have.

:thup:
 
Just because a child is brought here by a parent has he/she lost his citizenship in his native country? No. He/she can exist there.

It's a copout to say oh we're hurting these children who were brought here through no fault of their own. That's b.s. families are responsible for their fates. And to reward those families while other families are legally waiting is irresponsible.

Frankly, it's obvious that Obama created this bleeding heart narrative on the heels of an election b/c who wants to be a hard ass and say fair is fair?

Sorry dude, but the standard is you're a citizen of your native country and you have to legally apply for citizenship. Just b/c your mommy or daddy broke the law doesn't give you any special rights that others do not have.

Why should you expect him to abide by the laws that be? : )
 
Look these are the same people that think gun control reduces crime, because crimials obviously follow the law and wouldnt break gun control laws.
 
Okay; so we as conservatives agree that it's a copout. But why the disconnect with Republican lawmakers? You guys notice that none of the Republicans are rebuking the Dems with this message?
 
Just because a child is brought here by a parent has he/she lost his citizenship in his native country? No. He/she can exist there.

It's a copout to say oh we're hurting these children who were brought here through no fault of their own. That's b.s. families are responsible for their fates. And to reward those families while other families are legally waiting is irresponsible.

Frankly, it's obvious that Obama created this bleeding heart narrative on the heels of an election b/c who wants to be a hard ass and say fair is fair?

Sorry dude, but the standard is you're a citizen of your native country and you have to legally apply for citizenship. Just b/c your mommy or daddy broke the law doesn't give you any special rights that others do not have.

Not to mention that they poison those kids against the US when they bring them here. Why do you think they feel insulted when they see an American flag in school?
Send the little bastards back to where their parents brought them from.
 
Okay; so we as conservatives agree that it's a copout. But why the disconnect with Republican lawmakers? You guys notice that none of the Republicans are rebuking the Dems with this message?

Not only no rebuke, but proposing similar bullshit legislation.

Illegal is only illegal when it's not election season, I suppose.
 
Okay; so we as conservatives agree that it's a copout. But why the disconnect with Republican lawmakers? You guys notice that none of the Republicans are rebuking the Dems with this message?

Why? Because wealthy businessmen like the cheap labor. That, and if they actually did something about it, they wouldn't have a wedge issue to trot out like clockwork every 4 years. If republicans don't want illegals here they should just stop hiring them.
 
Just because a child is brought here by a parent has he/she lost his citizenship in his native country? No. He/she can exist there.

It's a copout to say oh we're hurting these children who were brought here through no fault of their own. That's b.s. families are responsible for their fates. And to reward those families while other families are legally waiting is irresponsible.

Frankly, it's obvious that Obama created this bleeding heart narrative on the heels of an election b/c who wants to be a hard ass and say fair is fair?

Sorry dude, but the standard is you're a citizen of your native country and you have to legally apply for citizenship. Just b/c your mommy or daddy broke the law doesn't give you any special rights that others do not have.

Since those children have spent so much of their life here, and many of them didn't even know they were not citizens, they should not be forced into a one-size-fits-all solution that is applied to adults. They need to have one tailored to their special circumstances and should be given an opportunity to become citizens by a different path than an adult who comes here illegally.
 
It must be so simple to formulate an opinion without a sense of compassion. By the time a kid has graduated from school or served a couple of tours we have invested a fair amount in these people, some republicans would like to make sure that investment is a total loss for everyone involved.
 
Just because a child is brought here by a parent has he/she lost his citizenship in his native country? No. He/she can exist there.

It's a copout to say oh we're hurting these children who were brought here through no fault of their own. That's b.s. families are responsible for their fates. And to reward those families while other families are legally waiting is irresponsible.

Frankly, it's obvious that Obama created this bleeding heart narrative on the heels of an election b/c who wants to be a hard ass and say fair is fair?

Sorry dude, but the standard is you're a citizen of your native country and you have to legally apply for citizenship. Just b/c your mommy or daddy broke the law doesn't give you any special rights that others do not have.

Nah, it's not, and it's only an issue for you 13 guys who feel like you.

You are entertainment for the overwhelming majority who have no trouble with it.
 
Nah, it's not, and it's only an issue for you 13 guys who feel like you.

You are entertainment for the overwhelming majority who have no trouble with it.

Hateful people like yourself are in the minority.
 
Okay; so we as conservatives agree that it's a copout. But why the disconnect with Republican lawmakers? You guys notice that none of the Republicans are rebuking the Dems with this message?

Why? Because wealthy businessmen like the cheap labor. That, and if they actually did something about it, they wouldn't have a wedge issue to trot out like clockwork every 4 years. If republicans don't want illegals here they should just stop hiring them.

I know that's what Democrats and the liberal media say. And there is a lot of truth to it. But is the Republican party that indebted to unskilled labor? I think it's just that they think if they can pander then they can get votes and I think they are clearly dead wrong even.
 
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Just because a child is brought here by a parent has he/she lost his citizenship in his native country? No. He/she can exist there.

It's a copout to say oh we're hurting these children who were brought here through no fault of their own. That's b.s. families are responsible for their fates. And to reward those families while other families are legally waiting is irresponsible.

Frankly, it's obvious that Obama created this bleeding heart narrative on the heels of an election b/c who wants to be a hard ass and say fair is fair?

Sorry dude, but the standard is you're a citizen of your native country and you have to legally apply for citizenship. Just b/c your mommy or daddy broke the law doesn't give you any special rights that others do not have.

I hope you guys vocally adopt this as your republican platform. :)
 
There is a lot of ignorance concerning immigrants. And that ignorance leads to ignorant opinions.

For instance, it is popular in some circles to believe illegal immigrants are to blame for the unemployment rate. It is astounding how stunted some people's memories are. They forgot all about the crash that was caused by Bush, before which we had full employment with the same number, or more, of illegal immigrants.

I say Bush crashed it because the same people don't hesitate to blame Obama for every negative thing happening now.

Turnabout is fair play.




Full employment with 20 million illegals screams the obvious, but still the stupid don't get it. If there is full employment with 20 million illegals here, then that means our labor demand is not being met by the legal supply. And that demand WILL be met, whether by hook or by crook. The screamingly obvious answer is to increase the legal labor supply to meet the demand.

But no. Mexicans scare the living shit out of bigots. Even YOUNG Mexicans scare the pussies.

So it does not surprise me that the bigots are having their day in the sun now. They are crawling out of the woodwork, believing they are somehow vindicated.

Stupidity abounds.
 
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Just because a child is brought here by a parent has he/she lost his citizenship in his native country? No. He/she can exist there.

It's a copout to say oh we're hurting these children who were brought here through no fault of their own. That's b.s. families are responsible for their fates. And to reward those families while other families are legally waiting is irresponsible.

Frankly, it's obvious that Obama created this bleeding heart narrative on the heels of an election b/c who wants to be a hard ass and say fair is fair?

Sorry dude, but the standard is you're a citizen of your native country and you have to legally apply for citizenship. Just b/c your mommy or daddy broke the law doesn't give you any special rights that others do not have.

If a set of parents (American's) had, lets say robbed a bank and got away with it and brought a house with that money and 5 years down the road the police catch up with the parents, should the kids get to keep the house? Or should the government take it back? No, they should not get to keep it, they would be rewarding the family of those breaking the law.

I totally get that these kids are in limbo, but they should go through the proper channels to become citizens just like the kids above would need to make their own money when able to buy a home. Sound mean or just fair to those waiting in line?
 
Liberals don't seem to have much of a problem with the offense, unfairness, and disincentive to legal immigrants (a national treasure) such rewarding and excusing of illegal immigrants (a national burden and shame) represents.
 
CaféAuLait;5508609 said:
Just because a child is brought here by a parent has he/she lost his citizenship in his native country? No. He/she can exist there.

It's a copout to say oh we're hurting these children who were brought here through no fault of their own. That's b.s. families are responsible for their fates. And to reward those families while other families are legally waiting is irresponsible.

Frankly, it's obvious that Obama created this bleeding heart narrative on the heels of an election b/c who wants to be a hard ass and say fair is fair?

Sorry dude, but the standard is you're a citizen of your native country and you have to legally apply for citizenship. Just b/c your mommy or daddy broke the law doesn't give you any special rights that others do not have.

If a set of parents (American's) had, lets say robbed a bank and got away with it and brought a house with that money and 5 years down the road the police catch up with the parents, should the kids get to keep the house? Or should the government take it back? No, they should not get to keep it, they would be rewarding the family of those breaking the law.

I totally get that these kids are in limbo, but they should go through the proper channels to become citizens just like the kids above would need to make their own money when able to buy a home. Sound mean or just fair to those waiting in line?

And they were put there by their own parents.
But, somehow, it's someone else's fault.

:eusa_eh:
 

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