Constitution doesn’t mention health care

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    Constitution doesn’t mention health care - Las Vegas Sun

    I have asked my liberal friends, “If I buy my health care directly from my doctor, why would you require me to pay taxes to buy health care for other people?” They usually answer, “Because everyone has a right to health care, and we are all in this together.”

    My question then is, “So was I born with an obligation to work to pay for someone else’s health care?” At this point, they will say something like, “You’re already paying for other people’s health care,” or, “That’s the wrong way to look at it,” or, “That sounds selfish,” or just “Yes.”

    If health care is a right, then the government must provide for it, as it does national defense and public safety and a judicial system. If it is not, then government has no more business being involved in it than it has in grocery stores or hotels or automobiles. So is health care a right?

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    Please don't try to confuse us with facts. Also don't cite the Constitution. That document isn't widely followed by our leaders anymore.
     
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    I'd say that, if someone has a very communicable condition and can't afford treatment, giving them enough care to stop an epidemic is a defense expenditure.
     
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    That's why we have the CDC and health clinics.

    Health care is not a right. Any more than home ownership is.
     
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    Who cares if its not in the Constitution?! Are you okay with families going bankrupt, with people (this one's for you BBD:) and children dying despite paying for health insurance because the insurance company drops their coverage due to a pre-existing condition of because the it eats into the multi-billion dollar insurance companies' profits? Where's the humanity, the compassion in allowing that to happen? Why is it all about money with you conservatives? WWJD?
     
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    The Constitution also doesn't grant corporations the same status as individual citizens. The Constitution was written BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE.
     
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    Which cost the taxpayer's money, which means that we are in fact already paying for other people's healthcare.

    (And no, that fact doesn't necessarily make healthcare a right. Nor did I ever state that it was or wasn't.)
     
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    Sounds like as good a reason to repeal the 14th Amendment as any.

    That's the Gettysburg Address, not any document involved in the founding.
     
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    Maybe because the people usurping that document are the ones who swore an oath to uphold it??

    But I guess little trifles like honesty, integrity, adherence to principle and character can go right down the shitter as long as you get yours, huh??
     
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    No, that's not it at all, Dude. Times change. Why shouldn't we change with them? I mean, c'mon! How would it feel to know that you paid tens maybe hundreds of thousands of dollars to you health insurance provider only to be dropped or not treated for a fatal disease or condition simply because it eats into the companies profits? What if that happened to your wife or kids? I mean, that's inhumane!

    Not all of our laws and rights are covered in the Constitution i.e. the Clean Air Act, the Right to Privacy, the Wilderness Act, the Americans with Disabilities Act, etc.

    I don't see what that has to do with honest, integrity, or adherence to principle or character? Obama said he would reform health care, and he's trying to do it. I would say the program that the Whitehouse and the Dems are pushing is more dishonest, lacks integrity and adherence to principle and character because it doesn't really ensure healthcare universally. But, they are politicians so what can you expect?!

    I think this has to do more with the conflicting philosophies of a static, unchanging Constitution and a living Constitution subject to interpretation as times change.
     

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