“Conspiracy against the United States”

As hard as Gates tried, he couldn't outdo Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama in their conspiring against the US, and their aiding and abetting the enemies of this country.

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Excellent work, Miss Peach. Now: What do you know about Trump and Russia? Are you under the impression that he had no business dealings, attempted or otherwise, with Russian Oligarchs? A quick Google search for "Trump's business dealings with Russian oligarchs" is a good starting point.

And can anybody playing defense in here tell me when Russia stopped being the sworn enemy of America??

Are you really fine with this country being just like that one. I would love to hear what changed your mind.

Still looking for those charges to come forward.

Patience - Late summer early fall .. what's yer hurry? :)
 
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It's called, "The Tu quoque" defense - Tu Quoque is a very common fallacy in which one attempts to defend oneself or another from criticism by turning the critique back against the accuser. This is a classic Red Herring since whether the accuser is guilty of the same, or a similar, wrong is irrelevant to the truth of the original charge. However, as a diversionary tactic, Tu Quoque can be very effective, since the accuser is put on the defensive, and frequently feels compelled to defend against the accusation. And as an added bonus, people forget what the topic is about.

I just calls it the Ol' Pee Wee Herman :cool-45:

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Turns out that a Russian was behind the "Not my President" violent and non-violent protests across the USA after Donald Trump won the presidency.

The anti-Trump protests appear to be a retaliation by private Russian citizens for the anti-Putin protests supported by the Clinton State Department.

The Clinton state department was also involved in the coups that overthrew the democratically elected governments in Egypt, Ukraine, Tunis, and Libya.

This is called "blowback".
 
Yeah: Again. I'm going to need a citation for that allegation.

Further:

What Mueller's Indictment Reveals

“The conspiracy had as its object impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful governmental functions of the United States by dishonest means in order to enable the Defendants to interfere with U.S. political and electoral processes, including the 2016 U.S. presidential election,” the indictment states. There are 16 defendants, including three organizations and 13 individuals, who are charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States by impairing enforcement of election law as well as wire fraud and bank fraud.

The document is the most complete set of allegations offered by the government yet about one subset of Russian interference, going far beyond an intelligence-community report released in early 2017. At its peak, the alleged conspiracy had a budget of more than $1.25 million per month for activities in the U.S. and elsewhere.

The indictment also stands as an implicit rebuke to President Trump, who has repeatedly refused to acknowledge the Russian role in the election, saying many actors may have been involved. He has also rejected the idea that any interference might have aided him. His rejection puts him at odds with the entire American intelligence establishment, which has concluded that Russia interfered. On Tuesday, top officials, many of them Trump appointees, reaffirmed that stance and said Russia would also seek to meddle in the 2018 election.

Who gained? Who lost? Russia is still actively interfering. Trump still refuses to impose sanctions. I'm sorry, but I'd need a frontal lobotomy before I could buy the conspiracy theory you're selling.
 
None of these charges have anything to do with "collusion". Are we all playing dumb now and pretending that politicians from both sides of the aisle don't use their connections to make money? Maxine waters made millions working in congress, why isn't she under investigation?

Yeah they do. Especially that “Conspiracy against the United States” charge.
 
None of these charges have anything to do with "collusion". Are we all playing dumb now and pretending that politicians from both sides of the aisle don't use their connections to make money? Maxine waters made millions working in congress, why isn't she under investigation?

it's only a small piece of the gigantic clusterfuck of russian interference.
Russian interference allegations are part of the big Democrat clusterfuck concocted to to manifest bitterness over losing an election.
 
None of these charges have anything to do with "collusion". Are we all playing dumb now and pretending that politicians from both sides of the aisle don't use their connections to make money? Maxine waters made millions working in congress, why isn't she under investigation?

it's only a small piece of the gigantic clusterfuck of russian interference.
Russian interference allegations are part of the big Democrat clusterfuck concocted to to manifest bitterness over losing an election.

Completely untrue.
 
None of these charges have anything to do with "collusion". Are we all playing dumb now and pretending that politicians from both sides of the aisle don't use their connections to make money? Maxine waters made millions working in congress, why isn't she under investigation?

it's only a small piece of the gigantic clusterfuck of russian interference.
Russian interference allegations are part of the big Democrat clusterfuck concocted to to manifest bitterness over losing an election.

Completely untrue.
Then why did dems not complain until after the election? Why did Obama insist just a couple of weeks before the election that our elections are not centralized enough for Russian interference to impact them?
 
None of these charges have anything to do with "collusion". Are we all playing dumb now and pretending that politicians from both sides of the aisle don't use their connections to make money? Maxine waters made millions working in congress, why isn't she under investigation?

it's only a small piece of the gigantic clusterfuck of russian interference.
Russian interference allegations are part of the big Democrat clusterfuck concocted to to manifest bitterness over losing an election.

lol.... the fact that flynn, papadopolous & gates flipping & spilling their guts says otherwise. :itsok:
 
None of these charges have anything to do with "collusion". Are we all playing dumb now and pretending that politicians from both sides of the aisle don't use their connections to make money? Maxine waters made millions working in congress, why isn't she under investigation?

it's only a small piece of the gigantic clusterfuck of russian interference.
Russian interference allegations are part of the big Democrat clusterfuck concocted to to manifest bitterness over losing an election.

Completely untrue.
Then why did dems not complain until after the election? Why did Obama insist just a couple of weeks before the election that our elections are not centralized enough for Russian interference to impact them?

the votes themselves may not have, although the jury is still out because there's a question regarding some voting machines' software possibly being hacked.... however it has been proven that several states' voter rolls have been tampered with.

anyhoo............... not a boatload of info was getting out about russia interfering until after the election. there wasn't the beginnings of such talk until just around christmastime 2016. however, elijah cummings tried to warn mike pence about taking on flynn as part of the administration in november - but that went completely ignored. pence downright lied when he said that he didn't know about flynn being dirty.
 
None of these charges have anything to do with "collusion". Are we all playing dumb now and pretending that politicians from both sides of the aisle don't use their connections to make money? Maxine waters made millions working in congress, why isn't she under investigation?

it's only a small piece of the gigantic clusterfuck of russian interference.
Russian interference allegations are part of the big Democrat clusterfuck concocted to to manifest bitterness over losing an election.

lol.... the fact that flynn, papadopolous & gates flipping & spilling their guts says otherwise. :itsok:
Keep adding your bitter self. This is all a rude and democrat bitterness showing itself.
 
None of these charges have anything to do with "collusion". Are we all playing dumb now and pretending that politicians from both sides of the aisle don't use their connections to make money? Maxine waters made millions working in congress, why isn't she under investigation?

it's only a small piece of the gigantic clusterfuck of russian interference.
Russian interference allegations are part of the big Democrat clusterfuck concocted to to manifest bitterness over losing an election.

Completely untrue.
Then why did dems not complain until after the election? Why did Obama insist just a couple of weeks before the election that our elections are not centralized enough for Russian interference to impact them?

the votes themselves may not have, although the jury is still out because there's a question regarding some voting machines' software possibly being hacked.... however it has been proven that several states' voter rolls have been tampered with.

anyhoo............... not a boatload of info was getting out about russia interfering until after the election. there wasn't the beginnings of such talk until just around christmastime 2016. however, elijah cummings tried to warn mike pence about taking on flynn as part of the administration in november - but that went completely ignored. pence downright lied when he said that he didn't know about flynn being dirty.
There is no collusion and no effective Russian interference.
Obama said so just a couple weeks before the election.
Get over it.
 
it's only a small piece of the gigantic clusterfuck of russian interference.
Russian interference allegations are part of the big Democrat clusterfuck concocted to to manifest bitterness over losing an election.

Completely untrue.
Then why did dems not complain until after the election? Why did Obama insist just a couple of weeks before the election that our elections are not centralized enough for Russian interference to impact them?

the votes themselves may not have, although the jury is still out because there's a question regarding some voting machines' software possibly being hacked.... however it has been proven that several states' voter rolls have been tampered with.

anyhoo............... not a boatload of info was getting out about russia interfering until after the election. there wasn't the beginnings of such talk until just around christmastime 2016. however, elijah cummings tried to warn mike pence about taking on flynn as part of the administration in november - but that went completely ignored. pence downright lied when he said that he didn't know about flynn being dirty.
There is no collusion and no effective Russian interference.
Obama said so just a couple weeks before the election.
Get over it.

noooooooo....... what he said was that the 'election wasn't rigged'. that does not equate to no 'collusion', ( the legal term is conspiracy ) oh, & a very short time after that, when obama stopped getting any intel on jan 20, 2017, more has come to light regarding mueller's investigation, such as the multiple indictments & guilty pleas from various people associated with trump.

& they aren't the only ones.... more to come..... so stay tuned. :hyper::spinner::popcorn:
 
Has not Mueller fixated on the FBI more than the CIA? We don't think Mueller is all that intelligent, and #4 is full of it: the Clinton crime family is CIA not FBI..
 
As hard as Gates tried, he couldn't outdo Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama in their conspiring against the US, and their aiding and abetting the enemies of this country.

Neither of them have ever been charged with conspiracy against the United States. Paul Manafort has been so charged. Rick Gates has been so charged. I’d have to go back and check what Mike Flynn was charged with.

It really is quite unusual that so many people have one degree of separation from Trump, and they have been either charged and plead not guilty, or charged and plead guilty.
That's what happens when the corrupt FBI/DOJ/Muller go after Trump and his campaign for "collusion"....only to find fuck all.
IF there was ANYTHING that proved any of the LIB biullshit the LIB MSM would have already gone public with it.
This is going to be the greatest LIB cluster fuck in US history.
 

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