Considering recent history, Republicans have nerve telling us what others are doing that's wrong.

They can't even name a single GOP policy in the last 40 years that's been good for the majority of Americans. Yet they "know" how to fix the disasters they caused? How is that possible?
Reagan brought us prosperity after Carter's mishap.

You mean Ronnie tripled EVERY other US Prez debt (as he HUGELY increased spending) , AND after he gutted taxes for the rich, unemployment skyrocketed,. the opposite of what was promised?


Ronnie inherited what economists call a Biz cycle dummy , AND Carter inherited the effects of Nixon/Ford wage/price controls and OPEC's sabotage of the WORLDS economy!
Obama has out spent all presidents combined.
 
They can't even name a single GOP policy in the last 40 years that's been good for the majority of Americans. Yet they "know" how to fix the disasters they caused? How is that possible?

Cutting taxes is good for all Americans. Stopping the latest Democrat scheme is good for Americans.
 
SDI gave us and Israel "iron dome" and it's PROVEN to save lives.
You asked for one to prove you were a liar. Now you got it.
The missiles keeping Israel safe may do more long-term harm than good

While this latest round of violence between Israel and Hamas is far from over, Israelis have already hurried to proclaim a winner. The groundbreaking missile defense system, developed a few years ago by the Israeli defense industry (with generous U.S. funding), has been hailed by commentators in Israel and around the world as the main “victor” in this recent clash. And for good reason. It has performed majestically: nearly all of the rockets fired towards Tel Aviv and other major population centers have been intercepted by the Iron Dome giving it, according to the Israeli Army, a 90 percent success rate. Thank the defense system for the lack of fatalities and the relatively low casualty rate among Israeli civilians. For now, it is both a physical and a psychological solace that enables Israelis to go about their business.

But, over time, Iron Dome may do them more harm than good. What looks like a tactical miracle may, accidentally, help engender a grave strategic blunder. Technology can mislead us by providing a false sense of security. But it cannot – and must not – become a substitute for effective diplomacy. And Iron Dome’s ability to protect Israelis from periodic rocket attacks so far will never remove the strife and discontent that has produced the motivation to ruthlessly fire them in the first place.

---------------------------------

That was developed by the Israelis, not us. We just paid for it. And how does it help the majority of Americans.

See? Once again you failed and you are not even bright enough to know why.

Pity.

So, it's bad because now Israel isn't forced to knuckle under to Obama's scheme's to destroy it?
 
Considering recent history, Republicans have nerve telling us what others are doing that's wrong.


TRANSLATION: PLEASE stop talking about all the bad things Democrats have done! We can't refute any of them! We can only try to change the subject to "REPUBLICANS!!! REPUBLICANS!!! REPUBLICANS!!!"
Please don't look at Obama's record. It sucks.
You mean like equal pay for equal work, moving student loans from the banks saving 6 billion a year, health care to millions who were using the emergency room, winning in the world trade court over countries like China who dumped steel and rubber here.

B_766rZUcAAKFn7.jpg
Equal pay? Why don't you ask the women who work in the Obama administration. They make less.

WITHOUT FALSE PREMISES, DISTORTIONS AND LIES, WHAT WOULD THE RIGHT WING EVER HAVE BUBS?

Obama’s 77-Cent Exaggeration

A TV spot from the president’s reelection committee says women are “paid 77 cents on the dollar for doing the same work as men.” That’s not true. The ad falsely states that the pay gap is for doing “the same work.” It also implies that discrimination by employers is responsible for the difference. That’s an exaggeration..

Obama’s 77-Cent Exaggeration

UNLESS YOU WINGERS 'THINK" A SECRETARY SHOULD MAKE WHAT THE SECRETARY OF STAT MAKES BUBS? lol
 
They can't even name a single GOP policy in the last 40 years that's been good for the majority of Americans. Yet they "know" how to fix the disasters they caused? How is that possible?
Reagan brought us prosperity after Carter's mishap.

You mean Ronnie tripled EVERY other US Prez debt (as he HUGELY increased spending) , AND after he gutted taxes for the rich, unemployment skyrocketed,. the opposite of what was promised?


Ronnie inherited what economists call a Biz cycle dummy , AND Carter inherited the effects of Nixon/Ford wage/price controls and OPEC's sabotage of the WORLDS economy!
Obama has out spent all presidents combined.


LOL, Learn your talking points Bubba, NO you are LYING.

right wingers LOVE to say Obama DOUBLED US debt. Reagan tripled US debt, but under Obama, the POLICIES he inherited AND the budget he took control of Oct 1, 2009 (like ALL Prez their first F/Y budget) will NEVER equal reagan's tripling of the debt

Oct 1, 2009:


US Begins Fiscal Year $11,776,112,848,656.17 in Debt


YEP, DUBYA/GOP TAKING US REVENUES FROM 20% OF GDP, THEN GUTTING THEM TO LESS THAN 15% OF GDP, THEN CHEERING ON THE BANKSTERS HOUSING BUBBLE PONZI SCHEME, DUBYA LEFT US IN A HOLE WHEN HE LEFT US!
 
They can't even name a single GOP policy in the last 40 years that's been good for the majority of Americans. Yet they "know" how to fix the disasters they caused? How is that possible?

Cutting taxes is good for all Americans. Stopping the latest Democrat scheme is good for Americans.


Weird, the metrics one uses to measure the economy, all seem to show supply side was bad for almost ALL of US. The top 1% excepted of course? On the other hand, under Clinton, almost everyone gained? Hmm
 
As predicted, Democrats have become unhinged after 7 years of failure under Obama. Remember back in 2009 right after their victory when they thought their shit didn't stink lmao!
 
They can't even name a single GOP policy in the last 40 years that's been good for the majority of Americans. Yet they "know" how to fix the disasters they caused? How is that possible?

Rdean, The Republicans will be here shortly with a list of accomplishments over the past 40 years. Either that or they will personally insult you as a smoke screen.
 
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They can't even name a single GOP policy in the last 40 years that's been good for the majority of Americans. Yet they "know" how to fix the disasters they caused? How is that possible?
Derp derp derp he gos
Gently down the stream
Trolling trolling trolling he goes
His life is but a dream
 
Considering recent history, Republicans have nerve telling us what others are doing that's wrong.


TRANSLATION: PLEASE stop talking about all the bad things Democrats have done! We can't refute any of them! We can only try to change the subject to "REPUBLICANS!!! REPUBLICANS!!! REPUBLICANS!!!"
Please don't look at Obama's record. It sucks.
You mean like equal pay for equal work, moving student loans from the banks saving 6 billion a year, health care to millions who were using the emergency room, winning in the world trade court over countries like China who dumped steel and rubber here.

B_766rZUcAAKFn7.jpg

Reads more like a list of fuckups.... but of course you would see fuckups as accomplishments because you're, well, stupid.
 
SDI gave us and Israel "iron dome" and it's PROVEN to save lives.
You asked for one to prove you were a liar. Now you got it.
The missiles keeping Israel safe may do more long-term harm than good

While this latest round of violence between Israel and Hamas is far from over, Israelis have already hurried to proclaim a winner. The groundbreaking missile defense system, developed a few years ago by the Israeli defense industry (with generous U.S. funding), has been hailed by commentators in Israel and around the world as the main “victor” in this recent clash. And for good reason. It has performed majestically: nearly all of the rockets fired towards Tel Aviv and other major population centers have been intercepted by the Iron Dome giving it, according to the Israeli Army, a 90 percent success rate. Thank the defense system for the lack of fatalities and the relatively low casualty rate among Israeli civilians. For now, it is both a physical and a psychological solace that enables Israelis to go about their business.

But, over time, Iron Dome may do them more harm than good. What looks like a tactical miracle may, accidentally, help engender a grave strategic blunder. Technology can mislead us by providing a false sense of security. But it cannot – and must not – become a substitute for effective diplomacy. And Iron Dome’s ability to protect Israelis from periodic rocket attacks so far will never remove the strife and discontent that has produced the motivation to ruthlessly fire them in the first place.

---------------------------------

That was developed by the Israelis, not us. We just paid for it. And how does it help the majority of Americans.

See? Once again you failed and you are not even bright enough to know why.

Pity.

So, it's bad because now Israel isn't forced to knuckle under to Obama's scheme's to destroy it?



LOL


"President Barack Obama signed a bill Monday granting an additional $225 million in U.S. taxpayer dollars for Israel's Iron Dome missile defense system.

The U.S. has provided hundreds of millions of dollars for Iron Dome in the past. The new package is intended to replenish Israel's capabilities."

Obama Signs Funding Package For Israel's Iron Dome




For the second consecutive year, Israeli officials have asked the U.S. Congress to add more than $300 million to President Barack Obama’s budget request for their nation’s missile-defense programs.

The $317 million wish list that Israeli’s missile defense chief gave lawmakers this month is in addition to the $158 million the Pentagon proposed for the fiscal year that starts Oct. 1. The Israeli request would provide first-time production funds for two programs -- David’s Sling and Arrow-3.

Israel’s latest lobbying on Capitol Hill, instead of through the White House and Pentagon

OF COURSE THOSE "FISCAL CONSERVATIVES" IN CONGRESS WERE RIGHT ON TOP OF IT RIGHT BUBBA? LOL

Israel Lobbies for More Missile Defense Funds Than Obama Sought
 
As predicted, Democrats have become unhinged after 7 years of failure under Obama. Remember back in 2009 right after their victory when they thought their shit didn't stink lmao!


2009? Oh right when Dubya's economy was losing 9%+ of GDP the last fiscal quarter of Dubya's Prez AND the US was losing 700,000+ jobs a month LMAO
 
They can't even name a single GOP policy in the last 40 years that's been good for the majority of Americans. Yet they "know" how to fix the disasters they caused? How is that possible?
Reagan brought us prosperity after Carter's mishap.

You mean Ronnie tripled EVERY other US Prez debt (as he HUGELY increased spending) , AND after he gutted taxes for the rich, unemployment skyrocketed,. the opposite of what was promised?


Ronnie inherited what economists call a Biz cycle dummy , AND Carter inherited the effects of Nixon/Ford wage/price controls and OPEC's sabotage of the WORLDS economy!
Obama has out spent all presidents combined.


LOL, Learn your talking points Bubba, NO you are LYING.

right wingers LOVE to say Obama DOUBLED US debt. Reagan tripled US debt, but under Obama, the POLICIES he inherited AND the budget he took control of Oct 1, 2009 (like ALL Prez their first F/Y budget) will NEVER equal reagan's tripling of the debt

Oct 1, 2009:


US Begins Fiscal Year $11,776,112,848,656.17 in Debt


YEP, DUBYA/GOP TAKING US REVENUES FROM 20% OF GDP, THEN GUTTING THEM TO LESS THAN 15% OF GDP, THEN CHEERING ON THE BANKSTERS HOUSING BUBBLE PONZI SCHEME, DUBYA LEFT US IN A HOLE WHEN HE LEFT US!
He has out spent all presidents combined, something you cannot spin.
 
As predicted, Democrats have become unhinged after 7 years of failure under Obama. Remember back in 2009 right after their victory when they thought their shit didn't stink lmao!


2009? Oh right when Dubya's economy was losing 9%+ of GDP the last fiscal quarter of Dubya's Prez AND the US was losing 700,000+ jobs a month LMAO

Ahahaha speaking of unhinged ^^^
 
They can't even name a single GOP policy in the last 40 years that's been good for the majority of Americans. Yet they "know" how to fix the disasters they caused? How is that possible?
Reagan brought us prosperity after Carter's mishap.

You mean Ronnie tripled EVERY other US Prez debt (as he HUGELY increased spending) , AND after he gutted taxes for the rich, unemployment skyrocketed,. the opposite of what was promised?


Ronnie inherited what economists call a Biz cycle dummy , AND Carter inherited the effects of Nixon/Ford wage/price controls and OPEC's sabotage of the WORLDS economy!
Obama has out spent all presidents combined.


LOL, Learn your talking points Bubba, NO you are LYING.

right wingers LOVE to say Obama DOUBLED US debt. Reagan tripled US debt, but under Obama, the POLICIES he inherited AND the budget he took control of Oct 1, 2009 (like ALL Prez their first F/Y budget) will NEVER equal reagan's tripling of the debt

Oct 1, 2009:


US Begins Fiscal Year $11,776,112,848,656.17 in Debt


YEP, DUBYA/GOP TAKING US REVENUES FROM 20% OF GDP, THEN GUTTING THEM TO LESS THAN 15% OF GDP, THEN CHEERING ON THE BANKSTERS HOUSING BUBBLE PONZI SCHEME, DUBYA LEFT US IN A HOLE WHEN HE LEFT US!
He has out spent all presidents combined, something you cannot spin.

ONLY if you use CONServative/GOP "math" Bubba, in the real world, not so much
 
They can't even name a single GOP policy in the last 40 years that's been good for the majority of Americans. Yet they "know" how to fix the disasters they caused? How is that possible?

Cutting taxes is good for all Americans. Stopping the latest Democrat scheme is good for Americans.


Weird, the metrics one uses to measure the economy, all seem to show supply side was bad for almost ALL of US. The top 1% excepted of course? On the other hand, under Clinton, almost everyone gained? Hmm

All the ones I've seen show exactly the opposite of what you claim:

Reagan-vs.Obama_.jpg


ReaganVsObamaCumulGDPthru20quarters.png


ISSjob_110429.png.cms
 
SDI gave us and Israel "iron dome" and it's PROVEN to save lives.
You asked for one to prove you were a liar. Now you got it.
The missiles keeping Israel safe may do more long-term harm than good

While this latest round of violence between Israel and Hamas is far from over, Israelis have already hurried to proclaim a winner. The groundbreaking missile defense system, developed a few years ago by the Israeli defense industry (with generous U.S. funding), has been hailed by commentators in Israel and around the world as the main “victor” in this recent clash. And for good reason. It has performed majestically: nearly all of the rockets fired towards Tel Aviv and other major population centers have been intercepted by the Iron Dome giving it, according to the Israeli Army, a 90 percent success rate. Thank the defense system for the lack of fatalities and the relatively low casualty rate among Israeli civilians. For now, it is both a physical and a psychological solace that enables Israelis to go about their business.

But, over time, Iron Dome may do them more harm than good. What looks like a tactical miracle may, accidentally, help engender a grave strategic blunder. Technology can mislead us by providing a false sense of security. But it cannot – and must not – become a substitute for effective diplomacy. And Iron Dome’s ability to protect Israelis from periodic rocket attacks so far will never remove the strife and discontent that has produced the motivation to ruthlessly fire them in the first place.

---------------------------------

That was developed by the Israelis, not us. We just paid for it. And how does it help the majority of Americans.

See? Once again you failed and you are not even bright enough to know why.

Pity.

So, it's bad because now Israel isn't forced to knuckle under to Obama's scheme's to destroy it?



LOL


"President Barack Obama signed a bill Monday granting an additional $225 million in U.S. taxpayer dollars for Israel's Iron Dome missile defense system.

The U.S. has provided hundreds of millions of dollars for Iron Dome in the past. The new package is intended to replenish Israel's capabilities."

Obama Signs Funding Package For Israel's Iron Dome




For the second consecutive year, Israeli officials have asked the U.S. Congress to add more than $300 million to President Barack Obama’s budget request for their nation’s missile-defense programs.

The $317 million wish list that Israeli’s missile defense chief gave lawmakers this month is in addition to the $158 million the Pentagon proposed for the fiscal year that starts Oct. 1. The Israeli request would provide first-time production funds for two programs -- David’s Sling and Arrow-3.

Israel’s latest lobbying on Capitol Hill, instead of through the White House and Pentagon

OF COURSE THOSE "FISCAL CONSERVATIVES" IN CONGRESS WERE RIGHT ON TOP OF IT RIGHT BUBBA? LOL

Israel Lobbies for More Missile Defense Funds Than Obama Sought

What does any of that have to do with the claim of the article rdean posted saying Iron-Dome was not a good thing?
 
They can't even name a single GOP policy in the last 40 years that's been good for the majority of Americans. Yet they "know" how to fix the disasters they caused? How is that possible?

Cutting taxes is good for all Americans. Stopping the latest Democrat scheme is good for Americans.


Weird, the metrics one uses to measure the economy, all seem to show supply side was bad for almost ALL of US. The top 1% excepted of course? On the other hand, under Clinton, almost everyone gained? Hmm

All the ones I've seen show exactly the opposite of what you claim:

Reagan-vs.Obama_.jpg


ReaganVsObamaCumulGDPthru20quarters.png


ISSjob_110429.png.cms



AFTER the recession? Ypou mean the one started AFTER Ronnie gutted taxes for the rich, the opposite of what supply siders said would happen Bubs?


You mean Reagan had the Dems support him and put the country ahead of party, unlike how the GOP has done with Obama? lol

Charts: What if Obama spent like Reagan?

January 31, 2013

In 10 of the past 12 quarters, total government spending and investment has fallen, dragging down the Obama economy. That's in large part because state and local cutbacks have been so severe, but it's also because federal spending and investment has, on the whole, been falling since 2010.

This isn't an unusual analysis. You can see the numbers for yourself if you head to the Bureau of Economic Analysis's GDP data and scroll through column 21 of table 1.1.2. It's simply a fact that real government spending fell in three of President Obama's first four years.

That made me curious: How does government spending and investment during Obama's first term compare to Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush's first terms? The answer is poorly. Whereas total government spending dropped in 10 out of the 16 quarters that comprised Obama's first term, it rose in 13 out of Reagan's first 16 quarters, and 13 out of Bush's first 16 quarters.

government-spending-investment-first-terms.jpg

Or, to put it differently, over Obama's first term, falling government spending and investment snipped, on average, .11 percentage points of GDP off of (annualized) quarterly growth. During Reagan's first term, it added .68 percentage points, and during Bush's first term, it added .52 percentage points.

average-government-spending.jpg

The point isn't that Reagan and Bush were big spenders while Obama favors austerity. If it were up to Obama, the federal government would have spent much more since 2010. Moreover, these numbers are, in large part, functions of the economies the three men inherited. Each saw a recession in their first term, but Obama's was by far the worst, and so it led to much more severe cutbacks in state and local spending.


Rather, these graphs simply establish a basic fact about Obama's term: While deficits have indeed been high, government spending and investment has been falling since 2010. This is, in recent presidential administrations, a simply unprecedented response to a recession. Just for fun, I took Obama's GDP growth, netted out the effect of government spending and investment, and then added the total government spending and investment numbers — which include state and local government — from Reagan's first term. The result is a significantly better economy, with growth since 2010 averaging 3.2 percent rather than 2.4 percent.


obama-reagan-spending.jpg




Basic economic theory would hold that you want a larger contribution from government spending during a big recession in which private demand is weak than you do during a mild recession or a healthy economy. But that's been the case in Obama's economy, and all signs are that the pace of government spending cuts will accelerate sharply over the next year


Charts: What if Obama spent like Reagan?





64 Straight Months Of Private Sector Job Growth (THE LONGEST STREAK ON RECORD)

Under President Obama's leadership, the economy has added private sector jobs for 64 straight months. During this span, 12.8 million private sector jobs have been created.


DPCCPrivateSectorPayroll070215.png




BUT YES, WHEN THE GOP DIGS A HOLE, THEY DIG IT WIDE AND DEEP!
 
SDI gave us and Israel "iron dome" and it's PROVEN to save lives.
You asked for one to prove you were a liar. Now you got it.
The missiles keeping Israel safe may do more long-term harm than good

While this latest round of violence between Israel and Hamas is far from over, Israelis have already hurried to proclaim a winner. The groundbreaking missile defense system, developed a few years ago by the Israeli defense industry (with generous U.S. funding), has been hailed by commentators in Israel and around the world as the main “victor” in this recent clash. And for good reason. It has performed majestically: nearly all of the rockets fired towards Tel Aviv and other major population centers have been intercepted by the Iron Dome giving it, according to the Israeli Army, a 90 percent success rate. Thank the defense system for the lack of fatalities and the relatively low casualty rate among Israeli civilians. For now, it is both a physical and a psychological solace that enables Israelis to go about their business.

But, over time, Iron Dome may do them more harm than good. What looks like a tactical miracle may, accidentally, help engender a grave strategic blunder. Technology can mislead us by providing a false sense of security. But it cannot – and must not – become a substitute for effective diplomacy. And Iron Dome’s ability to protect Israelis from periodic rocket attacks so far will never remove the strife and discontent that has produced the motivation to ruthlessly fire them in the first place.

---------------------------------

That was developed by the Israelis, not us. We just paid for it. And how does it help the majority of Americans.

See? Once again you failed and you are not even bright enough to know why.

Pity.

So, it's bad because now Israel isn't forced to knuckle under to Obama's scheme's to destroy it?



LOL


"President Barack Obama signed a bill Monday granting an additional $225 million in U.S. taxpayer dollars for Israel's Iron Dome missile defense system.

The U.S. has provided hundreds of millions of dollars for Iron Dome in the past. The new package is intended to replenish Israel's capabilities."

Obama Signs Funding Package For Israel's Iron Dome




For the second consecutive year, Israeli officials have asked the U.S. Congress to add more than $300 million to President Barack Obama’s budget request for their nation’s missile-defense programs.

The $317 million wish list that Israeli’s missile defense chief gave lawmakers this month is in addition to the $158 million the Pentagon proposed for the fiscal year that starts Oct. 1. The Israeli request would provide first-time production funds for two programs -- David’s Sling and Arrow-3.

Israel’s latest lobbying on Capitol Hill, instead of through the White House and Pentagon

OF COURSE THOSE "FISCAL CONSERVATIVES" IN CONGRESS WERE RIGHT ON TOP OF IT RIGHT BUBBA? LOL

Israel Lobbies for More Missile Defense Funds Than Obama Sought

What does any of that have to do with the claim of the article rdean posted saying Iron-Dome was not a good thing?




Weird, don't understand CONTEXT that the poster posited that Israel's ID was CONFIRMATION that a GOP POLICY was good for the bottom 90% of US??? lol
 
They can't even name a single GOP policy in the last 40 years that's been good for the majority of Americans. Yet they "know" how to fix the disasters they caused? How is that possible?

Cutting taxes is good for all Americans. Stopping the latest Democrat scheme is good for Americans.


Weird, the metrics one uses to measure the economy, all seem to show supply side was bad for almost ALL of US. The top 1% excepted of course? On the other hand, under Clinton, almost everyone gained? Hmm

All the ones I've seen show exactly the opposite of what you claim:

Reagan-vs.Obama_.jpg


ReaganVsObamaCumulGDPthru20quarters.png


ISSjob_110429.png.cms



Middle Class Series: The Failure of Supply-Side Economics

Three Decades of Empirical Economic Data Shows That Supply-Side Economics Doesn’t Work

When President Bill Clinton, raised taxes that same year did the economy suffer a slowdown, as was predicted by those who believe in supply-side economics? The data says no.

Adherents of the economic theory known as supply-side economics contend that by cutting taxes on the rich we will unleash an avalanche of new investment that will spur economic growth, and boost job creation, leading to economic improvements for everyone. For most of the past 30 years this idea has dominated the economic debate, resulting in two sustained eras of tax cuts aimed at the wealthy, separated by a brief respite in the 1990s.

Now, as our economy struggles to emerge from the deepest recession in generations—and as we argue over what to do with the expiring Bush-era tax cuts—it is more important than ever to understand one simple fact: When put to the test in the real world, supply-side policies did not deliver as promised. In fact, by every important measure, our nation’s economic performance after the tax increases of 1993 significantly outpaced that of the periods following the tax cuts of the early 1980s and the early 2000s.


Investment growth was weaker under supply-side policies

supply_side_update_figure1.jpg



Productivity growth was weaker under supply-side policies

supply_side_update_figure2.jpg



Overall economic growth was weaker under supply-side policies

supply_side_update_figure3.jpg



Employment growth was weaker under supply-side policies


supply_side_update_figure4.jpg



Income growth for middle-class households was lackluster under supply-side policies

supply_side_update_figure5.jpg


Hourly earnings were flat or declined under supply-side policies


supply_side_update_figure6.jpg



Our nation’s fiscal health deteriorated under supply-side policies


supply_side_update_figure7.jpg



Conclusion
Did the supply side policies of Presidents Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush work? Did they boost investment, spur growth, and cause prosperity to trickle down? The data says no. And when President Clinton raised taxes in 1993, did the economy suffer a slowdown, as was predicted by those who believe in supply-side economics? Again, the data says no.

This data does not mean that higher taxes are always better and lower taxes are always worse for the economy. That would be making the same mistake that many supply-siders make, but in reverse. Indeed, there were obviously other forces at work in our economy besides tax policies over this 30-year period. But it does mean that lower taxes aren’t always the answer, aren’t a magical economic cure, and that higher taxes can coexist with, and perhaps even aid, a strong economy.


The Failure of Supply-Side Economics

 

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