Consider how the Affordable Care Act will save money

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  1. Bloodline
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    Bloodline I sink SHIPS!

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    All this gnashing of teeth over the SCOTUS ruling is just a bunch of political bluster and posturing.

    CONservatives actually welcome this ruling because it gives them something to bitch about, finally a "cause" to rally around. Let's face it. Mitt Romney is an extremely weak candidate to go into November with and the GOP hasn't had much of a platform on which to challenge Obama.

    They still don't but at least now they have a new mantra...."new tax"....."new tax"...."new tax"...."loss of freedom"....""loss of freedom"...."loss of freedom"...."dictator"...."dictator"...."dictator"....

    Over and over and over!

    It would behoove all the Obama bashers to take a step back and consider the long term cost to society of having a country full of so many uninsured people. Everybody I know in the healthcare profession agrees that it's vastly more expensive to society to treat people who have not had adequate preventative medicine and healthcare all along.

    Most of America's uninsured do get medical treatment eventually, once their conditions have reached chronic and/or emergency status. True, emergency rooms do treat indigents. Medicaid and medicare do pay for treatment of chronic conditions. This is usually very expensive, often much more expensive than it would have been to treat the condition with preventative medicine all along.

    Covering the uninsured and the costs to society

    Why is everybody so livid about what they're calling a new "tax?" The government technically over reaches all the time under the auspices of "protecting society."

    Look at the so called "sin tax" on alcohol and tobacco. How can the government tax substances up to 500%?

    Easy....their use costs "society" a LOT of money.

    In New Mexico (Albuquerque anyway) if you get caught driving drunk they can confiscate your vehicle....i.e. STEAL it from you.

    How can this be legal? What about the constitutional right to be secure in your property?

    Easy...DUI has been identified as a threat to society.

    So the Affordable Health Care law mkes good sense in the long run as far as PROTECTING society from the excessive costs of everybody having to pay for the uninsured. Insurance companies, doctors, and hospitals just pass the costs of covering uninsured people onto you in the form of higher costs and premiums. In the long run this legislation will probably lower costs and premiums for everybody and that would be good for society.

    You have to think LONG TERM though and all CONservatives are taking out of this is an opportunity to salivate over the 2012 elections.

    Nothing is going to change if Romney is elected in November.

    Don't believe a word of it!
     
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    Oh But loss of freedom, don't you know rightists know when they will be sick and will buy then?

    Seriously, though, Love this post!
     
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    Yeah, it's sure to bend the costs down. The economics and metrics of adding 30MM people to a system already headed to bankruptcy has to be good
     
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    Debt = Income

    Tax = Free
     
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    Can you name one government program that saves money?
     
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    Govt programs don't save money. Without taxpayer money they couldn't exist.
     
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    Agreed. And to pay they impose more taxes. No free society has taxed/spent it's way into prosperity period.

    All it leads to is government control, less liberty more tyranny.
     
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    If you think like a leftist, it starts to make sense. Once the government has control of the health care system, the state can mandate good health. The goal for the left is preventative care by law. Michael Bloomberg in passing laws against salt and large size soft drinks, schools that prohibit all but non fat milk are on the cutting edge of preventative care. The so called war on obesity AFTER having changed the standards, is part of that. In being able to dictate and control preventive care so that an individual has no right to cause injury to the public by their behavior in incurring health care costs, there is virtually no limit to what the government can't control. Movie popcorn is on the list of soon to be banned foods.

    Health panel talks about wider food ban - New York News | New York Breaking News | NYC Headlines

    Singapore had a law making chewing gum illegal because studies showed that chewing gum contributes to tooth decay and the public paid for dental work so that gave the government a right to ban unhealthy chewing gum.


    The sky reall isn't even a limit.
     

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