"CONSERVATIVES" love illegal immigration

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    I live in California. In the short period of 5 years, I have seen this area turn into a seething craphole full of illegal Mexicans.

    Historically a Democrat, I originally voted for Gray Davis for governor of the state. Eventually, I came to hate the man. I believe that illegal immigration is wrong and should not be rewarded. Davis signed a bill giving illegal immigrants the right to in-state college tuition. With this, illegals would only have to pay around $5k per year instead of the $20k per year paid by non-state residents!!!

    Astounding isn't it? Say you lived in Ohio. Even if your family had been in the US for 150 years, and fought in every major American war, if you wanted to attend college in California, you would have to pay $20k per year in tuition. An illegal would only pay $5k. This was the first straw.

    The second straw was drivers licenses for illegals. Davis wanted them, I did not.

    The last straw: Davis wanted to give free community college tuition to illegals.

    I was outraged. The only way I felt I could send a message was to vote for his recall and to vote for Ahnold. I wish I had voted for McClintock tho (he was even more strongly against pandering to illegals and their lobbyists).

    NOW HERE IS THE QUESTION. If the conservatives on this board think illegal immigration is wrong and is harmful to our country, how can they vote for Bush? Bush supports an amnesty for illegals. I voted my conscience in the Davis recall. Why don't "conservatives" do the same and get rid of Bush? Is it just a matter of not being able to say that they were wrong?
     
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    Under what precise conditions does Bush support amnesty?
     
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    Clash, most conservatives are not happy with the proposed amnesty bill. In fact, it is a major point of contention. I don't think that conservatives in the House will ever let it pass. However, we conservatives are voting for Bush because he is actively fighting terrorists, which is the most important issue for most Americans.
     
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    Uh. Haven't mastered the internet yet huh? It's called a search. You can go to any major browser and type in a few keywords like "bush" "illegals" "amnesty", and low and behold, you can start doing a little research.

    Or, since you seem a little rusty, you can just click on the link below.




    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,109026,00.html
     
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    Sorry gop, but we live in different areas of the country. I live in california, and i kid you not, the most pressing issue here is illegal immigration. Neither Bush, nor Kerry are going to do anything about it, so I am just not going to vote - unless some candidate, any candidate, promises they will tackle the problem head on.
     
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    Agreed, but some with certainly try to make it a wedge issue with the Republicans.
     
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    Hey, its your thread, I was just asking a question. No need to become smarmy.
     
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    I am conservative. I live in California. Out of 50 or so people I polled at my job, more than 3/4 wanted McClintock to win, but voted Arnold....(who wants to give illegals licenses as well, now). They all, but 3 voted for Ahnold. What good did that do? They claimed they didn't "want to throw away their vote" since McClintock wouldn't win anyway.

    So they threw away their vote on someone who would win anyway. Figure that one out.

    That being said, I AM conservative. The Republicans are not. Until they quit acting like Democrats did 20 years ago, they are liberals. The Democrats are now socialists. It is a slope of no return. If you want true conservatives anymore, you need non-compromising people like Constitutionalists in office.

    People have been decieved into believing republicans and democrats are different hence the confusion and debate back and forth although both parties achieve the same results. Bush is protected because he has done a better job than Davis in covering his butt.
     
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    The reason I asked the question clash715, was to put into context your assertion of Bush's support of amnesty. As you wrote the question:
    , one could assume that you meant Bush supports amnesty for any and all illegals. I was just asking for clarification from you, since you were the one to bring up the subject. All you did was provide a link.
     
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    That is a total cop out. Don't be such a pussy. If "your" party does something that pisses you off, vote them out. I did!!! That was the entire point of this post. You are sooooo afraid of Republicans being "divided" that you are letting "your" party get away with bloody murder. Grow some balls!
     

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