Conservatives are unembarrassed by a history of being wrong

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If we look at modern times, Conservative policy has always failed and yet conservatives continue repeating the same thing over and over.

Despite the fact that there have been many brilliant thinkers through the centuries who called themselves conservatives, it does seem that, when we look at things through the rearview mirror of American history, it is conservatives who are left stuck in the mud.

Today’s conservatives may call themselves tea partiers, but the original bunch that tossed boxes of tea over the side of British ships was a gaggle of radicals, not conservatives. In 1776, it was conservative people who thought the Declaration of Independence was a traitorous document. Their loyalties lay with British tradition and the king in London.

Throughout the long debate over slavery, abolitionists were condemned as radicals. Even a moderate like Abraham Lincoln was too extreme for the conservatives of his day. They bought into all kinds of excuses for why slavery should be left alone – that it was Biblical, that it would wither away on its own or that the property rights of slaveholders should not be infringed.

In the Gilded Age, when robber barons ruled the economy and workers toiled for long hours at dangerous jobs for meager wages, it was the conservatives who opposed the minimum wage, the 40-hour work week and the eight-hour day. They opposed the right of workers to organize. They opposed Teddy Roosevelt’s conservation plans and his regulation of rapacious industrialists.

And on into the 20th century, it was conservatives who fought against the franchise for women, Social Security, Medicare and racial integration. More recently, they have stood in the way of gay rights and universal health care. Even when they had the right idea – opposing Communism – they were prone to dangerous excess – McCarthyism.

To be fair, the best conservative intellectuals and political leaders have provided a useful tempering of the enthusiasms of liberal social engineers. But on so many of the biggest challenges that have faced the nation, the conservatives of each era have ended up on the wrong side of history.

Conservatives are unembarrassed by a history of being wrong

IM2 OP requires personal input, not just a cut and paste
 
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LATIMES is biased crap. They leave out the fact that a huge part of the liberal movement was against SS.

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Those are 3 different links.

One thing you need to remember. Republicans sign the front of paychecks, liberals sign the back.
 
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LATIMES is biased crap. They leave out the fact that a huge part of the liberal movement was against SS.

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Those are 3 different links.

One thing you need to remember. Republicans sign the front of paychecks, liberals sign the back.

You must understand, IM is our token black racist. He hates whitey.
 
If we look at modern times, Conservative policy has always failed and yet conservatives continue repeating the same thing over and over.

Despite the fact that there have been many brilliant thinkers through the centuries who called themselves conservatives, it does seem that, when we look at things through the rearview mirror of American history, it is conservatives who are left stuck in the mud.

Today’s conservatives may call themselves tea partiers, but the original bunch that tossed boxes of tea over the side of British ships was a gaggle of radicals, not conservatives. In 1776, it was conservative people who thought the Declaration of Independence was a traitorous document. Their loyalties lay with British tradition and the king in London.

Throughout the long debate over slavery, abolitionists were condemned as radicals. Even a moderate like Abraham Lincoln was too extreme for the conservatives of his day. They bought into all kinds of excuses for why slavery should be left alone – that it was Biblical, that it would wither away on its own or that the property rights of slaveholders should not be infringed.

In the Gilded Age, when robber barons ruled the economy and workers toiled for long hours at dangerous jobs for meager wages, it was the conservatives who opposed the minimum wage, the 40-hour work week and the eight-hour day. They opposed the right of workers to organize. They opposed Teddy Roosevelt’s conservation plans and his regulation of rapacious industrialists.

And on into the 20th century, it was conservatives who fought against the franchise for women, Social Security, Medicare and racial integration. More recently, they have stood in the way of gay rights and universal health care. Even when they had the right idea – opposing Communism – they were prone to dangerous excess – McCarthyism.

To be fair, the best conservative intellectuals and political leaders have provided a useful tempering of the enthusiasms of liberal social engineers. But on so many of the biggest challenges that have faced the nation, the conservatives of each era have ended up on the wrong side of history.

Conservatives are unembarrassed by a history of being wrong

IM2 OP requires personal input, not just a cut and paste

Another phony-baloney. You listen to those who lied to you, then regurgitate THEIR lies to us so as to put us in the position YOU are in.

Screw you! If you are to dumb to escape, then you deserve to be there!
 
OP requires personal input, not just a cut and paste

If we look at modern times, Conservative policy has always failed and yet conservatives continue repeating the same thing over and over.

That was my personal input.
 
LATIMES is biased crap. They leave out the fact that a huge part of the liberal movement was against SS.

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Those are 3 different links.

One thing you need to remember. Republicans sign the front of paychecks, liberals sign the back.

You must understand, IM is our token black racist. He hates whitey.

I'm no racist. I don't hate whites. OBTW, are all conservatives white?
 
LATIMES is biased crap. They leave out the fact that a huge part of the liberal movement was against SS.

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Those are 3 different links.

One thing you need to remember. Republicans sign the front of paychecks, liberals sign the back.


One thing you need to remember. Republicans sign the front of paychecks, liberals sign the back.

Lmfao...what a burn.. :)


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LATIMES is biased crap. They leave out the fact that a huge part of the liberal movement was against SS.

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Those are 3 different links.

One thing you need to remember. Republicans sign the front of paychecks, liberals sign the back.

How does that work since I signed the front of pay checks for the majority of the years I worked?
 
OP supports rape and murder on other threads. Or, shall I say, thinks it's "okay", as long as the victim is white. I don't think he deserves the right to call anyone else "wrong" for any reason, real or imagined (usually imagined, in his case).
 
LATIMES is biased crap. They leave out the fact that a huge part of the liberal movement was against SS.

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Those are 3 different links.

One thing you need to remember. Republicans sign the front of paychecks, liberals sign the back.

You must understand, IM is our token black racist. He hates whitey.

I'm no racist. I don't hate whites. OBTW, are all conservatives white?

You've made completely clear repeatedly you are a racist and you do hate whites.

That while the irony that you're a black hand under a white robe. The KKK couldn't do nearly as much as you do to destroy blacks by telling them to be subservient to the party that keeps screwing you. The latest being unchecked illegal immigration by people who keep poor blacks unemployed. Employment is the first step to becoming middle class. There is no path around it. And you cheer while Democrats keep poor blacks right where they are
 
LATIMES is biased crap. They leave out the fact that a huge part of the liberal movement was against SS.

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Those are 3 different links.

One thing you need to remember. Republicans sign the front of paychecks, liberals sign the back.

How does that work since I signed the front of pay checks for the majority of the years I worked?


How do you sign paychecks to yourself?

Are you telling us you embezzled money from your company?
 
If we look at modern times, Conservative policy has always failed and yet conservatives continue repeating the same thing over and over.

Despite the fact that there have been many brilliant thinkers through the centuries who called themselves conservatives, it does seem that, when we look at things through the rearview mirror of American history, it is conservatives who are left stuck in the mud.

Today’s conservatives may call themselves tea partiers, but the original bunch that tossed boxes of tea over the side of British ships was a gaggle of radicals, not conservatives. In 1776, it was conservative people who thought the Declaration of Independence was a traitorous document. Their loyalties lay with British tradition and the king in London.

Throughout the long debate over slavery, abolitionists were condemned as radicals. Even a moderate like Abraham Lincoln was too extreme for the conservatives of his day. They bought into all kinds of excuses for why slavery should be left alone – that it was Biblical, that it would wither away on its own or that the property rights of slaveholders should not be infringed.

In the Gilded Age, when robber barons ruled the economy and workers toiled for long hours at dangerous jobs for meager wages, it was the conservatives who opposed the minimum wage, the 40-hour work week and the eight-hour day. They opposed the right of workers to organize. They opposed Teddy Roosevelt’s conservation plans and his regulation of rapacious industrialists.

And on into the 20th century, it was conservatives who fought against the franchise for women, Social Security, Medicare and racial integration. More recently, they have stood in the way of gay rights and universal health care. Even when they had the right idea – opposing Communism – they were prone to dangerous excess – McCarthyism.

To be fair, the best conservative intellectuals and political leaders have provided a useful tempering of the enthusiasms of liberal social engineers. But on so many of the biggest challenges that have faced the nation, the conservatives of each era have ended up on the wrong side of history.

Conservatives are unembarrassed by a history of being wrong

IM2 OP requires personal input, not just a cut and paste

Another phony-baloney. You listen to those who lied to you, then regurgitate THEIR lies to us so as to put us in the position YOU are in.

Screw you! If you are to dumb to escape, then you deserve to be there!

Considering that the last series of conservative decisions almost sent us into a depression....
 
If we look at modern times, Conservative policy has always failed and yet conservatives continue repeating the same thing over and over.

Despite the fact that there have been many brilliant thinkers through the centuries who called themselves conservatives, it does seem that, when we look at things through the rearview mirror of American history, it is conservatives who are left stuck in the mud.

Today’s conservatives may call themselves tea partiers, but the original bunch that tossed boxes of tea over the side of British ships was a gaggle of radicals, not conservatives. In 1776, it was conservative people who thought the Declaration of Independence was a traitorous document. Their loyalties lay with British tradition and the king in London.

Throughout the long debate over slavery, abolitionists were condemned as radicals. Even a moderate like Abraham Lincoln was too extreme for the conservatives of his day. They bought into all kinds of excuses for why slavery should be left alone – that it was Biblical, that it would wither away on its own or that the property rights of slaveholders should not be infringed.

In the Gilded Age, when robber barons ruled the economy and workers toiled for long hours at dangerous jobs for meager wages, it was the conservatives who opposed the minimum wage, the 40-hour work week and the eight-hour day. They opposed the right of workers to organize. They opposed Teddy Roosevelt’s conservation plans and his regulation of rapacious industrialists.

And on into the 20th century, it was conservatives who fought against the franchise for women, Social Security, Medicare and racial integration. More recently, they have stood in the way of gay rights and universal health care. Even when they had the right idea – opposing Communism – they were prone to dangerous excess – McCarthyism.

To be fair, the best conservative intellectuals and political leaders have provided a useful tempering of the enthusiasms of liberal social engineers. But on so many of the biggest challenges that have faced the nation, the conservatives of each era have ended up on the wrong side of history.

Conservatives are unembarrassed by a history of being wrong

IM2 OP requires personal input, not just a cut and paste

We should care about jobs, families, two parent households? I feel you. Who needs that?

You smoke a lot of weed, don't you? Be honest
 
If we look at modern times, Conservative policy has always failed and yet conservatives continue repeating the same thing over and over.

Despite the fact that there have been many brilliant thinkers through the centuries who called themselves conservatives, it does seem that, when we look at things through the rearview mirror of American history, it is conservatives who are left stuck in the mud.

Today’s conservatives may call themselves tea partiers, but the original bunch that tossed boxes of tea over the side of British ships was a gaggle of radicals, not conservatives. In 1776, it was conservative people who thought the Declaration of Independence was a traitorous document. Their loyalties lay with British tradition and the king in London.

Throughout the long debate over slavery, abolitionists were condemned as radicals. Even a moderate like Abraham Lincoln was too extreme for the conservatives of his day. They bought into all kinds of excuses for why slavery should be left alone – that it was Biblical, that it would wither away on its own or that the property rights of slaveholders should not be infringed.

In the Gilded Age, when robber barons ruled the economy and workers toiled for long hours at dangerous jobs for meager wages, it was the conservatives who opposed the minimum wage, the 40-hour work week and the eight-hour day. They opposed the right of workers to organize. They opposed Teddy Roosevelt’s conservation plans and his regulation of rapacious industrialists.

And on into the 20th century, it was conservatives who fought against the franchise for women, Social Security, Medicare and racial integration. More recently, they have stood in the way of gay rights and universal health care. Even when they had the right idea – opposing Communism – they were prone to dangerous excess – McCarthyism.

To be fair, the best conservative intellectuals and political leaders have provided a useful tempering of the enthusiasms of liberal social engineers. But on so many of the biggest challenges that have faced the nation, the conservatives of each era have ended up on the wrong side of history.

Conservatives are unembarrassed by a history of being wrong

IM2 OP requires personal input, not just a cut and paste

Another phony-baloney. You listen to those who lied to you, then regurgitate THEIR lies to us so as to put us in the position YOU are in.

Screw you! If you are to dumb to escape, then you deserve to be there!

Considering that the last series of conservative decisions almost sent us into a depression....

Your typical post. Long on accusation, devoid of reason or examples
 
OP supports rape and murder on other threads. Or, shall I say, thinks it's "okay", as long as the victim is white. I don't think he deserves the right to call anyone else "wrong" for any reason, real or imagined (usually imagined, in his case).
It is not about deserving but capability
 
If we look at modern times, Conservative policy has always failed and yet conservatives continue repeating the same thing over and over.

Despite the fact that there have been many brilliant thinkers through the centuries who called themselves conservatives, it does seem that, when we look at things through the rearview mirror of American history, it is conservatives who are left stuck in the mud.

Today’s conservatives may call themselves tea partiers, but the original bunch that tossed boxes of tea over the side of British ships was a gaggle of radicals, not conservatives. In 1776, it was conservative people who thought the Declaration of Independence was a traitorous document. Their loyalties lay with British tradition and the king in London.

Throughout the long debate over slavery, abolitionists were condemned as radicals. Even a moderate like Abraham Lincoln was too extreme for the conservatives of his day. They bought into all kinds of excuses for why slavery should be left alone – that it was Biblical, that it would wither away on its own or that the property rights of slaveholders should not be infringed.

In the Gilded Age, when robber barons ruled the economy and workers toiled for long hours at dangerous jobs for meager wages, it was the conservatives who opposed the minimum wage, the 40-hour work week and the eight-hour day. They opposed the right of workers to organize. They opposed Teddy Roosevelt’s conservation plans and his regulation of rapacious industrialists.

And on into the 20th century, it was conservatives who fought against the franchise for women, Social Security, Medicare and racial integration. More recently, they have stood in the way of gay rights and universal health care. Even when they had the right idea – opposing Communism – they were prone to dangerous excess – McCarthyism.

To be fair, the best conservative intellectuals and political leaders have provided a useful tempering of the enthusiasms of liberal social engineers. But on so many of the biggest challenges that have faced the nation, the conservatives of each era have ended up on the wrong side of history.

Conservatives are unembarrassed by a history of being wrong

IM2 OP requires personal input, not just a cut and paste

Another phony-baloney. You listen to those who lied to you, then regurgitate THEIR lies to us so as to put us in the position YOU are in.

Screw you! If you are to dumb to escape, then you deserve to be there!

Considering that the last series of conservative decisions almost sent us into a depression....


LOL, well...………..your guy couldn't find his economic ass if Moochie was paddling it. He was incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial; not to mention a Socialist. He was an embarrassment to the Presidency; not because of anything other then he constantly APOLOGIZED for America. He was not the President, he was the court Jester!
 
LATIMES is biased crap. They leave out the fact that a huge part of the liberal movement was against SS.

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Those are 3 different links.

One thing you need to remember. Republicans sign the front of paychecks, liberals sign the back.
You wish.
If that were the case, it would be Red States following 150 years of conservative economic policies that would be successes and the Blue States would be the basket cases and not the other way around.

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LATIMES is biased crap. They leave out the fact that a huge part of the liberal movement was against SS.

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Deja Vu: A Look Back at Some of the Tirades Against Social Security and Medicare | BillMoyers.com

Those are 3 different links.

One thing you need to remember. Republicans sign the front of paychecks, liberals sign the back.

You must understand, IM is our token black racist. He hates whitey.

I'm no racist. I don't hate whites. OBTW, are all conservatives white?

You've made completely clear repeatedly you are a racist and you do hate whites.

That while the irony that you're a black hand under a white robe. The KKK couldn't do nearly as much as you do to destroy blacks by telling them to be subservient to the party that keeps screwing you. The latest being unchecked illegal immigration by people who keep poor blacks unemployed. Employment is the first step to becoming middle class. There is no path around it. And you cheer while Democrats keep poor blacks right where they are

I have done no such thing. I have to laugh at you republicans. You're racists and you stand opposed to everything that has helped blacks progress. Now explain to me how many blacks are losing jobs picking tomatoes or lettuce to illegal immigrants.
 
If we "republicans" have been against everything that has helped blacks progress, why is the "republican" in the white house overseeing the lowest black unemployment in the history of the nation? Its like liberals ignore the undisputed facts and make up "alternate facts" of their own.

What was black unemployment under the half-black president Hussein Obama?
 

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